2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf Hillary wins, who wants odds on how many Goldman Sachs execs are in White House
I keep hearing from Hillary supporters that the $675k money given directly to her for 3 speeches and $2.5million to her super-PAC aren't bribes and there are no expectations with them.
It was just due to her celebrity status. It was because other speakers are paid highly too. One person even said Trump is highly paid so she should be too.
I'm calling it right now. Who thinks there'll be a Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary? What about the SEC?
scscholar
(2,902 posts)to block net neutrality since GS has invested in so many cable monopolies.
revbones
(3,660 posts)She said she would enforce strong net neutrality in an op-ed. If not Goldman, then I'm betting she appoints a Comcast exec but should probably check her "donors" list wagering too much money.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)great white snark
(2,646 posts)Since this bribery and cronyism is nothing but speculation then only your imagination can limit you.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)...if Hillary just showed the world what precisely she told Goldman Sachs, something said that was so momentous she was paid $675,000. But she refuses to do that. Leading to this speculation: SHE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE.
angrychair
(8,685 posts)Every financial and economic position is a Wall St insider.
I mean that seriously.
Look at her staff now, all insiders. Its not that hard a bet.
Her attempts to "regulate" will be smoke and mirrors and percieved as the 'cost of doing business'.
Citizens United and her SuperPACs are going nowhere ("she needs them to 'level' the playing field" .
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)The biggest problem we have is the GE I think. I don't see enough independents going our way. I may be wrong and hope I am but the public is more angry now than even 2008 I think. We'll see and deal with what we can.
onecaliberal
(32,812 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I'd say the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of GS becoming a permanent fixture in
the Goldman Girl's 'inner-circle'
revbones
(3,660 posts)It was expected and we saw the results with the austerity and no CEO's in jail.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)seaotter
(576 posts)Pure bribes.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Does that mean in more in 2008 or is that the record and Obama still ahead?
Hillary is the master at that kind of stuff.
revbones
(3,660 posts)seaotter
(576 posts)Bribes, payroll, "speaking fees", little difference .
Tarc
(10,476 posts)to a vanishingly small audience.
revbones
(3,660 posts)are going "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA..." but facts are facts.
Corruption is corruption.
To admit that you think the corruption of your candidate is a "tired drum" while not disputing the facts is galling.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Dim, tired dog-whistle politics.
Congrats on all of 109 posts,.
revbones
(3,660 posts)No, but if there's no problem, then why won't she release the transcripts?
And you know, in your heart of hearts, that if she wins that Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and others will own that administration.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)The Abundance of Care: Sanders supporters
The Absence of Care: everyone else
Since "Everyone Else" is going to hand Clinton 10, possibly 11, victories tomorrow, and many more primaries down the road, releasing transcripts has no tangible benefit.
revbones
(3,660 posts)and other Hillary supporters. Just like Trump supporters, you are immune to facts in regard to your candidate possibly having flaws.
I realize you guys got callouses built up because of right-wing smears over the years, but to be this willfully ignorant of facts is beyond comprehension.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)that the rest of us find so tiresome. Your candidate is a single-issue campaign; "banks banks banks banks banks".
We're looking for a more well-rounded, viable candidate, and we have found her.
revbones
(3,660 posts)Nothing you've said indicates that you believe anything other than what was implied in this thread and that she will just appoint Goldman Sachs execs and continue the corruption
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Goldman Sachs is a bank.
All banks are corrupt.
Goldman Sachs endorses Clinton.
Clinton is corrupt.
revbones
(3,660 posts)Politicians that take bribes from Goldman Sachs are probably corrupt
Politicians that make speeches that won't release the transcripts are probably corrupt.
Politicians that lie about their opponent in debates are probably corrupt.
Politicians that violate the proper handling of classified materials and delete over 30,000 emails are probably corrupt
Clinton is corrupt.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)If Clinton gets to the White House it will seal the deal. She will wage war and pretend to care while they steal what's left from us.
kennetha
(3,666 posts)She gave 8 speeches to Universities for the same basic fee.
Were they buying influence too?
Many were but not for what you are saying. There is a lot of litigation going on currently with for-profit universities. There is also a lot of campaigning about "tuition free" or "debt free" college. The climate is right for actions that will affect those universities and they need a stake in to control how those things will play out.