Did Bill Clinton, Mayor Walsh Break Massachusetts Voting Laws for Hillary?

[NWCorona]

Not to sure about the laws on this but something to think about.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

[monmouth4]

1. If I cannot get into my polling place to vote, something is definitely amiss. I put nothing

past the Clintons. They are devious in every sense of the word..I assume ( I know I shouldn't) that this is what you're talking about..

[NWCorona]

3. They definitely know how to play the game

[Hortensis]

44. Bill Clinton must be very aware of polling place

laws. There's no indication in that article that he told that person to pull the lever for Hillary within 150 feet of the polling place. After that at some point he was apparently inside.

The article also only quotes an absent official on the law itself, not that the official said he broke it. An honest reporter would realize reading skills are not always optimal and would be a little less obfuscating.

One thing people need to remember, an ex-president is worth a huge amount more visiting 15 precincts and schmoozing than standing around one polling place blocking access. Which we're going to find didn't happen. The mere image boggles the mind.

[msongs]

2. so if bernie goes into a voting place to vote for himself is he violating campaign laws too? nt

[Arazi]

5. You're really saying Bill Clinton went in to vote for HRC in Mass?

come on

[NWCorona]

6. That's not the same thing tho.

I didn't know that Bill Clinton was registered to vote in Massachusetts

[Matt_in_STL]

7. Oh, so Bill was there to vote? I didn't realize he was a resident.

Or, did he position himself close to a polling place which then caused others to be unable to vote for hours?

[NWCorona]

9. This!

[2pooped2pop]

30. And it took him several hours to vote apparently

The lines must be very long, but really I thought they would let him cut in line.

[arcane1]

64. In more than one polling place, too.

Funny how that works.

[AtomicKitten]

10. The rules don't apply to the Clintons?

“Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election."

[HooptieWagon]

36. Not only was he within 150 feet...

...he was actually inside the polling location. Clearly a violation of the law, for which arrests should be made.

[AtomicKitten]

42. agreed

[NWCorona]

55. This isn't good at all!

[AtomicKitten]

79. Shady shit is Clinton standard operating procedure.

[2pooped2pop]

71. Maybe they didn't understand the law

They have probably never been made aware of the rules.

[AtomicKitten]

76. Rulz are for little people doncha know?

[Thinkingabout]

98. There you go, the law says to solucit within 150 ft, did he solicit within 150 ft?

If the answer is no then it is not in violation.

[AtomicKitten]

99. Yes, in fact he went into the polling place & held it hostage for 2 hours.

Feel free to deny it, but there's video.

Just like there's video of Clinton supporters cheating in Iowa and Nevada.

[Thinkingabout]

100. Where is the proof he "held it hostage for 2 hours", there isn't any proof this happened

He was allowed to observe, he did this, he can not "solicit", unless he solicited it is not a violation. I have viewed on video, did not see Bill, so that video can not show where he obstructed or was disorderly.

[Politicalboi]

105. His presence IS soliciting

And to make people wait longer to vote. They cheat plain and simple.

[Thinkingabout]

109. He will not be charged with a violation which did not occur, plain and simply

[arcane1]

20. Is Bernie trying to vote in a different state? n/t

[sabrina 1]

72. He would be voting in NY so why was he there?

[jillan]

80. He wasn't there to vote. He was there to talk to the voters.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

[LexVegas]

4. ...

[NWCorona]

8. You must be speechless

[AzDar]

11. Clinton Corruption... Right in front of a polling place...

[NWCorona]

12. And isn't that illegal?

[AzDar]

18. Within 150 feet...

Laws are for little people...

[JaneyVee]

15. Im pretty sure they know the rules and observed them all.

[AzDar]

24. Right. Because the Clintons have NEVER broken Laws/Rules/Protocols, right?

[JaneyVee]

37. Pretty funny coming from....

A campaign that had a data breach, fired staffers, posed as union workers, attacked Planned Parenthood over endorsement, and now got nailed with 31 pages of FEC violations. http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fec-launches-inquiry-into-hundreds-of-excessive-contributions-to-bernie-sanders-campaign/23817/

[AzDar]

50. You are absurd. Presented with video evidence of Bill Clinton violating election law, and you resort

to the old (flawed) tu quoque defense.
Sorry if the facts hurt your feelings...

[Thinkingabout]

58. Where was the violation?

[asuhornets]

69. Indeed...

GO Hillary!!!

[Downwinder]

28. They have been SO good about that.

[2pooped2pop]

38. You mean they know the laws

And manage to stay just under prosecution of them. In this case, if anything is said, it will be too late to change it, and we, of course should just get over it and move on.

[NWCorona]

53. You don't sound to sure about that.

[Lizzie Poppet]

74. Respect for the law being SUCH a Clinton tradition, and all.

[elleng]

13. Same in DC, and probably lots of other places:

“Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election,” the text reads. In addition, campaign operatives are prohibited from distributing “campaign material intended to influence the vote of a voter in the ongoing election” within 150 of a polling location.

[Downwinder]

14. Does MA have a law about loitering at the polls?

[NWCorona]

17. Good question

There is that 150 ft rule. Or is that a law..

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. hmm so the videos now made it to the news

GOOD

[KingFlorez]

19. Time to create excuses for Sanders losing

As expected.

[NWCorona]

22. You can keep telling yourself that

But it's about open and fair elections. Period!
I doubt I'll hear back from you tho.

[Arazi]

23. Any person being prevented from voting for any candidate is wrong

WRONG

I don't care which side it's for. We should all agree on that

[arcane1]

26. "You don’t usually get a president doing this"

"The former president was spotted in the Newton Free Library in Newton, as well as the Holy Name gymnasium in West Roxbury—both polling locations. He was joined at the latter by Boston Mayor Marty Walsh, a Clinton supporter."




You should try, you know, reading the article before posting stupid shit

[NWCorona]

31. +1!

[KingFlorez]

39. And you should get ready for tonight's results

And please keep your cussing to yourself.

[arcane1]

48. I can cuss all I fucking want to

[thereismore]

33. I feel sorry for you. Bye now. nt

[KingFlorez]

34. I feel sorry for you. Bernie's not going to have a good night

lol.

[2pooped2pop]

41. Its always time to make excuses for Clinton's

Breaking of laws, I guess. Oh, you forgot to say this is just another conspiracy theory or right wing talking point.

[Kelvin Mace]

90. Is it really to much to ask your candidate

to not break the law during the voting season?

[FSogol]

108. Exactly. The revolution is canceled because Bill Clinton visited a polling place!

[Capt. Obvious]

21. He's been all over my state today.

From what I've heard so far: West Roxbury, Newton, Taunton, New Bedford.

[AzDar]

27. Nothing wrong with that... Campaigning in front of a public polling place is wrong (and illegal)

[Thinkingabout]

63. Do you know the rules of a polling place?

[AzDar]

77. Here ya go ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1384072

[Kelvin Mace]

92. Here

Activities at Polling Place. Within 150 feet of a polling place as defined in 950 CMR 53.03(18)(c), no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election.

http://www.mass.gov/courts/docs/lawlib/900-999cmr/950cmr53.pdf

Pretty clear, even for a lawyer.

[bkkyosemite]

106. He thinks his popularity will cause people to vote for Hillary...cuz they

saw an ex President just like they saw an ex actor (Trump)...they are thinking it will help them like with the celebrity of Trump...oh my goodness I feel sick...how dare they hold up the voters.

[AzDar]

107. He did this at MULTIPLE locations...

[bkkyosemite]

104. I wonder if he is going to these places to take attention off of some other thing happening.

hmmm

[dragonfly301]

25. There are rules for the Clintons

and then there are rules for the rest of us.

[NWCorona]

29. That's becoming more and more apparent.

[Kip Humphrey]

32. Impossible! Clintons never break laws.

I case you don't get it:

[BernieforPres2016]

35. There are no limits for these entitled Clintons

Voting laws? Who cares? What are they going to do, arrest us?

They drag Secret Service, handlers and a press entourage everywhere they go. So why not just make the little people wait even longer to get into the polls and cast their votes?

[NWCorona]

40. This was posted earlier today

It sure looks closer than 150ft


What's going on in New Bedford MA - Bill Clinton there and no one can get in to votehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/12511382831

[NCTraveler]

43. .

Enthusiasm for democrats really gets to some people.

[NWCorona]

52. Especially when it appears to break the law

[NCTraveler]

78. I wish Sanders supporters cared about the law with data gate.

It was all blamed on Clinton and the "establishment." Too funny.

[NWCorona]

81. Is that all you got?

Try again

[NCTraveler]

83. I didn't know I needed more.

I'm really excited it's almost time for the counting and this just brought my concern meter to zero.

Seriously?

"Is that all you got?"

[Matt_in_STL]

102. I do wonder what happened with the independent investigation Bernie called for

Funny how the whole thing suddenly went away at that point.

[NowSam]

45. and this is why no one trusts the Clintons

Reasons like these that we hear about almost every day.

That is why some label them as despicable.

[UglyGreed]

46. Well we will bend the rules

this time.

[TheCowsCameHome]

47. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

All's fair in love and war, as the saying goes.

[demwing]

51. Truly?

Ffs

[TheCowsCameHome]

56. Clinton family rules, not mine

[demwing]

61. Thanks.

Sarcasm that needs a sarcasm tag is like a joke that needs its punchline explained.

[TheCowsCameHome]

66. We outsiders watch from beyond the 150 ft barriers.

[brooklynite]

65. Just to be clear, the Clinton strategy to win the nomination hinges on gumming up the works...

...at ONE polling site in ONE State...a State where Clinton is leading.

Ingenious!

[TheCowsCameHome]

75. It's just habit, cut them some slack.

No big deal. She's got the WH in a cakewalk.

[demwing]

49. White collar criminals

And I'm ashamed I ever gave that putz my vote.

Lessons learned will not be repeated.

[rbrnmw]

87. I won't vote for him again either

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[nichomachus]

54. Oh for heaven's sake. Get a grip.

The rules don't apply to the Clintons. Royalty doesn't have to do what peons have to do.

[madfloridian]

57. News video "large crowd gathered outside.. polling place at Buttonwood Park to greet Clinton"

Yes, he was at the polling place.

http://wpri.com/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-arrives-in-new-bedford-on-super-tuesday/

[NWCorona]

60. Thanks for the link!

[pacalo]

59. Willful flaunting of his disregard for 'the little people's' rules.

[kristopher]

62. Rules don't apply to the Clintons, didn't you know that?

[cherokeeprogressive]

67. In California it would be considered "electioneering" and would be a violation of the law.

18370. No person, on election day, or at any time that a voter may be casting a ballot, shall, within 100 feet of a polling place, a satellite location under Section 3018, or an elections official's office: (5754)

(a) Circulate an initiative, referendum, recall, or nomination petition or any other petition. (5755)

(b) Solicit a vote or speak to a voter on the subject of marking his or her ballot. (emphasis mine) (5756)

(c) Place a sign relating to voters' qualifications or speak to a voter on the subject of his or her qualifications except as provided in Section 14240. (5757) (5761)


If he mentioned Hillary's name, he would have violated the California Elections Code and been guilty of a misdemeanor.

[NWCorona]

70. We need to dig up the exact language in the laws in Massachusetts

[revbones]

68. All the Hillary supporters would be pissed if it was George Bush walking into polling places for Jeb

[NWCorona]

73. This is spreading now to other news sites.

The funny thing is there are news reports that put a positive spin on Bill being in Massachusetts and non of them brought this up.

[jillan]

82. Another DUer posted a link to the NYT talking about this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511384459

[Karmadillo]

84. The Law is for little people

[rbrnmw]

85. ....

[NWCorona]

86. That's not surprising

[Nanjeanne]

88. Just add it to my list of why I cannot support a Clinton ever. If Hillary wins I will do

everything in my power to support a challenger to her in 4 years. If she loses - she has only herself to blame. I'm done feeling responsible for giving that entitled woman her prize.

[Downwinder]

89. Any question now

that a President Clinton would be subservient to the law?

[NurseJackie]

91. Indictments coming soon!

[NWCorona]

93. Regardless of the sarcasm. I agree that they will be coming

[NurseJackie]

94. Ha!! :-D

[NWCorona]

95. We will see who gets the last laugh 😂

Good luck today!

[NurseJackie]

96. :-D

[redwitch]

97. Appalling behavior. Criminal behavior.

This clearly is a violation of election laws.

[valerief]

101. Wouldn't it be funny if they both were in jail together? nt

[still_one]

103. It is not good if it is true. For right now I am not going to comment until I get a full picture