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Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:04 PM

Did Bill Clinton, Mayor Walsh Break Massachusetts Voting Laws for Hillary?

Not to sure about the laws on this but something to think about.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

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Reply Did Bill Clinton, Mayor Walsh Break Massachusetts Voting Laws for Hillary? (Original post)
NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
monmouth4 Mar 2016 #1
NWCorona Mar 2016 #3
Hortensis Mar 2016 #44
msongs Mar 2016 #2
Arazi Mar 2016 #5
NWCorona Mar 2016 #6
Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #7
NWCorona Mar 2016 #9
2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #30
arcane1 Mar 2016 #64
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #10
HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #36
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #42
NWCorona Mar 2016 #55
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #79
2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #71
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #76
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #98
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #99
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #100
Politicalboi Mar 2016 #105
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #109
arcane1 Mar 2016 #20
sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #72
jillan Mar 2016 #80
LexVegas Mar 2016 #4
NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
AzDar Mar 2016 #11
NWCorona Mar 2016 #12
AzDar Mar 2016 #18
JaneyVee Mar 2016 #15
AzDar Mar 2016 #24
JaneyVee Mar 2016 #37
AzDar Mar 2016 #50
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #58
asuhornets Mar 2016 #69
Downwinder Mar 2016 #28
2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #38
NWCorona Mar 2016 #53
Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #74
elleng Mar 2016 #13
Downwinder Mar 2016 #14
NWCorona Mar 2016 #17
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #16
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #19
NWCorona Mar 2016 #22
Arazi Mar 2016 #23
arcane1 Mar 2016 #26
NWCorona Mar 2016 #31
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #39
arcane1 Mar 2016 #48
thereismore Mar 2016 #33
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #34
2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #41
Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #90
FSogol Mar 2016 #108
Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #21
AzDar Mar 2016 #27
Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #63
AzDar Mar 2016 #77
Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #92
bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #106
AzDar Mar 2016 #107
bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #104
dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #25
NWCorona Mar 2016 #29
Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #32
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #35
NWCorona Mar 2016 #40
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NCTraveler Mar 2016 #43
NWCorona Mar 2016 #52
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #78
NWCorona Mar 2016 #81
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #83
Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #102
NowSam Mar 2016 #45
UglyGreed Mar 2016 #46
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rbrnmw Mar 2016 #87
nichomachus Mar 2016 #54
madfloridian Mar 2016 #57
NWCorona Mar 2016 #60
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kristopher Mar 2016 #62
cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #67
NWCorona Mar 2016 #70
revbones Mar 2016 #68
NWCorona Mar 2016 #73
jillan Mar 2016 #82
Karmadillo Mar 2016 #84
rbrnmw Mar 2016 #85
NWCorona Mar 2016 #86
Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #88
Downwinder Mar 2016 #89
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #91
NWCorona Mar 2016 #93
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #94
NWCorona Mar 2016 #95
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #96
redwitch Mar 2016 #97
valerief Mar 2016 #101
still_one Mar 2016 #103

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:06 PM

1. If I cannot get into my polling place to vote, something is definitely amiss. I put nothing

past the Clintons. They are devious in every sense of the word..I assume ( I know I shouldn't) that this is what you're talking about..

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:08 PM

3. They definitely know how to play the game

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:27 PM

44. Bill Clinton must be very aware of polling place

laws. There's no indication in that article that he told that person to pull the lever for Hillary within 150 feet of the polling place. After that at some point he was apparently inside.

The article also only quotes an absent official on the law itself, not that the official said he broke it. An honest reporter would realize reading skills are not always optimal and would be a little less obfuscating.

One thing people need to remember, an ex-president is worth a huge amount more visiting 15 precincts and schmoozing than standing around one polling place blocking access. Which we're going to find didn't happen. The mere image boggles the mind.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:07 PM

2. so if bernie goes into a voting place to vote for himself is he violating campaign laws too? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:08 PM

5. You're really saying Bill Clinton went in to vote for HRC in Mass?

come on


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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:09 PM

6. That's not the same thing tho.

I didn't know that Bill Clinton was registered to vote in Massachusetts

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:09 PM

7. Oh, so Bill was there to vote? I didn't realize he was a resident.

 

Or, did he position himself close to a polling place which then caused others to be unable to vote for hours?

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:10 PM

9. This!

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Response to Matt_in_STL (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:18 PM

30. And it took him several hours to vote apparently

 

The lines must be very long, but really I thought they would let him cut in line.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:42 PM

64. In more than one polling place, too.

 

Funny how that works.

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:10 PM

10. The rules don't apply to the Clintons?

 

“Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election."

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:21 PM

36. Not only was he within 150 feet...

 

...he was actually inside the polling location. Clearly a violation of the law, for which arrests should be made.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:25 PM

42. agreed

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #42)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:36 PM

55. This isn't good at all!

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #55)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:54 PM

79. Shady shit is Clinton standard operating procedure.

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:47 PM

71. Maybe they didn't understand the law

 


They have probably never been made aware of the rules.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #71)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:53 PM

76. Rulz are for little people doncha know?

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:57 PM

98. There you go, the law says to solucit within 150 ft, did he solicit within 150 ft?

If the answer is no then it is not in violation.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #98)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:59 PM

99. Yes, in fact he went into the polling place & held it hostage for 2 hours.

 

Feel free to deny it, but there's video.

Just like there's video of Clinton supporters cheating in Iowa and Nevada.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #99)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:35 PM

100. Where is the proof he "held it hostage for 2 hours", there isn't any proof this happened

He was allowed to observe, he did this, he can not "solicit", unless he solicited it is not a violation. I have viewed on video, did not see Bill, so that video can not show where he obstructed or was disorderly.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #98)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:43 PM

105. His presence IS soliciting

 

And to make people wait longer to vote. They cheat plain and simple.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #105)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:53 PM

109. He will not be charged with a violation which did not occur, plain and simply

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:14 PM

20. Is Bernie trying to vote in a different state? n/t

 

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:47 PM

72. He would be voting in NY so why was he there?

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:55 PM

80. He wasn't there to vote. He was there to talk to the voters.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:08 PM

4. ...

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:09 PM

8. You must be speechless

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:11 PM

11. Clinton Corruption... Right in front of a polling place...

 

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Response to AzDar (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:11 PM

12. And isn't that illegal?

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:14 PM

18. Within 150 feet...

 




Laws are for little people...

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Response to AzDar (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:13 PM

15. Im pretty sure they know the rules and observed them all.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:16 PM

24. Right. Because the Clintons have NEVER broken Laws/Rules/Protocols, right?

 

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Response to AzDar (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:22 PM

37. Pretty funny coming from....

 

A campaign that had a data breach, fired staffers, posed as union workers, attacked Planned Parenthood over endorsement, and now got nailed with 31 pages of FEC violations. http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fec-launches-inquiry-into-hundreds-of-excessive-contributions-to-bernie-sanders-campaign/23817/

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:33 PM

50. You are absurd. Presented with video evidence of Bill Clinton violating election law, and you resort

 

to the old (flawed) tu quoque defense.
Sorry if the facts hurt your feelings...

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Response to AzDar (Reply #50)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:39 PM

58. Where was the violation?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:44 PM

69. Indeed...

GO Hillary!!!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:17 PM

28. They have been SO good about that.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:22 PM

38. You mean they know the laws

 

And manage to stay just under prosecution of them. In this case, if anything is said, it will be too late to change it, and we, of course should just get over it and move on.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:35 PM

53. You don't sound to sure about that.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:50 PM

74. Respect for the law being SUCH a Clinton tradition, and all.

 

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:12 PM

13. Same in DC, and probably lots of other places:

“Within 150 feet of a polling place…no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election,” the text reads. In addition, campaign operatives are prohibited from distributing “campaign material intended to influence the vote of a voter in the ongoing election” within 150 of a polling location.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:12 PM

14. Does MA have a law about loitering at the polls?

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:14 PM

17. Good question

There is that 150 ft rule. Or is that a law..

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:13 PM

16. hmm so the videos now made it to the news

 

GOOD

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:14 PM

19. Time to create excuses for Sanders losing

As expected.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:16 PM

22. You can keep telling yourself that

But it's about open and fair elections. Period!
I doubt I'll hear back from you tho.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:16 PM

23. Any person being prevented from voting for any candidate is wrong

WRONG

I don't care which side it's for. We should all agree on that

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:17 PM

26. "You don’t usually get a president doing this"

 

"The former president was spotted in the Newton Free Library in Newton, as well as the Holy Name gymnasium in West Roxbury—both polling locations. He was joined at the latter by Boston Mayor Marty Walsh, a Clinton supporter."




You should try, you know, reading the article before posting stupid shit

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:19 PM

31. +1!

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:23 PM

39. And you should get ready for tonight's results

And please keep your cussing to yourself.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:29 PM

48. I can cuss all I fucking want to

 

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:20 PM

33. I feel sorry for you. Bye now. nt

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Response to thereismore (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:21 PM

34. I feel sorry for you. Bernie's not going to have a good night

lol.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:24 PM

41. Its always time to make excuses for Clinton's

 

Breaking of laws, I guess. Oh, you forgot to say this is just another conspiracy theory or right wing talking point.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:23 PM

90. Is it really to much to ask your candidate

 

to not break the law during the voting season?

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:47 PM

108. Exactly. The revolution is canceled because Bill Clinton visited a polling place!

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:15 PM

21. He's been all over my state today.

From what I've heard so far: West Roxbury, Newton, Taunton, New Bedford.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:17 PM

27. Nothing wrong with that... Campaigning in front of a public polling place is wrong (and illegal)

 

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Response to AzDar (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:40 PM

63. Do you know the rules of a polling place?

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #63)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:32 PM

92. Here

 

Activities at Polling Place. Within 150 feet of a polling place as defined in 950 CMR 53.03(18)(c), no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election.


http://www.mass.gov/courts/docs/lawlib/900-999cmr/950cmr53.pdf

Pretty clear, even for a lawyer.

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Response to AzDar (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:43 PM

106. He thinks his popularity will cause people to vote for Hillary...cuz they

saw an ex President just like they saw an ex actor (Trump)...they are thinking it will help them like with the celebrity of Trump...oh my goodness I feel sick...how dare they hold up the voters.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #106)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:45 PM

107. He did this at MULTIPLE locations...

 

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:41 PM

104. I wonder if he is going to these places to take attention off of some other thing happening.

hmmm

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:17 PM

25. There are rules for the Clintons

and then there are rules for the rest of us.

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Response to dragonfly301 (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:18 PM

29. That's becoming more and more apparent.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:19 PM

32. Impossible! Clintons never break laws.

I case you don't get it:

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:21 PM

35. There are no limits for these entitled Clintons

Voting laws? Who cares? What are they going to do, arrest us?

They drag Secret Service, handlers and a press entourage everywhere they go. So why not just make the little people wait even longer to get into the polls and cast their votes?

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:23 PM

40. This was posted earlier today

It sure looks closer than 150ft


What's going on in New Bedford MA - Bill Clinton there and no one can get in to votehttp://www.democraticunderground.com/12511382831

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:26 PM

43. .

 



Enthusiasm for democrats really gets to some people.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #43)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:34 PM

52. Especially when it appears to break the law

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #52)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:54 PM

78. I wish Sanders supporters cared about the law with data gate.

 

It was all blamed on Clinton and the "establishment." Too funny.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #78)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:56 PM

81. Is that all you got?

Try again

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #81)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:01 PM

83. I didn't know I needed more.

 

I'm really excited it's almost time for the counting and this just brought my concern meter to zero.

Seriously?

"Is that all you got?"

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #78)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:39 PM

102. I do wonder what happened with the independent investigation Bernie called for

 

Funny how the whole thing suddenly went away at that point.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:28 PM

45. and this is why no one trusts the Clintons

Reasons like these that we hear about almost every day.

That is why some label them as despicable.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:28 PM

46. Well we will bend the rules

this time.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:29 PM

47. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

All's fair in love and war, as the saying goes.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:34 PM

51. Truly?

 

Ffs

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Response to demwing (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:37 PM

56. Clinton family rules, not mine

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #56)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:39 PM

61. Thanks.

 

Sarcasm that needs a sarcasm tag is like a joke that needs its punchline explained.

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Response to demwing (Reply #61)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:42 PM

66. We outsiders watch from beyond the 150 ft barriers.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #47)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:42 PM

65. Just to be clear, the Clinton strategy to win the nomination hinges on gumming up the works...

...at ONE polling site in ONE State...a State where Clinton is leading.

Ingenious!

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #65)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:50 PM

75. It's just habit, cut them some slack.

No big deal. She's got the WH in a cakewalk.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:33 PM

49. White collar criminals

 

And I'm ashamed I ever gave that putz my vote.

Lessons learned will not be repeated.

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Response to demwing (Reply #49)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:14 PM

87. I won't vote for him again either

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:36 PM

54. Oh for heaven's sake. Get a grip.

The rules don't apply to the Clintons. Royalty doesn't have to do what peons have to do.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:38 PM

57. News video "large crowd gathered outside.. polling place at Buttonwood Park to greet Clinton"

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Response to madfloridian (Reply #57)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:39 PM

60. Thanks for the link!

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:39 PM

59. Willful flaunting of his disregard for 'the little people's' rules.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:40 PM

62. Rules don't apply to the Clintons, didn't you know that?

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:43 PM

67. In California it would be considered "electioneering" and would be a violation of the law.

 

18370. No person, on election day, or at any time that a voter may be casting a ballot, shall, within 100 feet of a polling place, a satellite location under Section 3018, or an elections official's office: (5754)

(a) Circulate an initiative, referendum, recall, or nomination petition or any other petition. (5755)

(b) Solicit a vote or speak to a voter on the subject of marking his or her ballot.
(emphasis mine) (5756)

(c) Place a sign relating to voters' qualifications or speak to a voter on the subject of his or her qualifications except as provided in Section 14240. (5757) (5761)


If he mentioned Hillary's name, he would have violated the California Elections Code and been guilty of a misdemeanor.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #67)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:45 PM

70. We need to dig up the exact language in the laws in Massachusetts

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:43 PM

68. All the Hillary supporters would be pissed if it was George Bush walking into polling places for Jeb

 

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:49 PM

73. This is spreading now to other news sites.

The funny thing is there are news reports that put a positive spin on Bill being in Massachusetts and non of them brought this up.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #73)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:56 PM

82. Another DUer posted a link to the NYT talking about this.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:03 PM

84. The Law is for little people

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:11 PM

85. ....

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #85)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:12 PM

86. That's not surprising

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:15 PM

88. Just add it to my list of why I cannot support a Clinton ever. If Hillary wins I will do

everything in my power to support a challenger to her in 4 years. If she loses - she has only herself to blame. I'm done feeling responsible for giving that entitled woman her prize.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:22 PM

89. Any question now

that a President Clinton would be subservient to the law?

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:31 PM

91. Indictments coming soon!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #91)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:35 PM

93. Regardless of the sarcasm. I agree that they will be coming

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #93)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:37 PM

94. Ha!! :-D

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #94)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:40 PM

95. We will see who gets the last laugh 😂

Good luck today!

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #95)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:41 PM

96. :-D

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 06:52 PM

97. Appalling behavior. Criminal behavior.

This clearly is a violation of election laws.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:37 PM

101. Wouldn't it be funny if they both were in jail together? nt

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Tue Mar 1, 2016, 07:39 PM

103. It is not good if it is true. For right now I am not going to comment until I get a full picture

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