2016 Postmortem
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Colorado Caucus Speech for Bernie Sanders
Partial transcript from reddit:
Its not that we want free stuff.
Its not that we dont understand economics.
And its not that were naïve about political realities.
Its simply that the majority of young adults get their news online and the Bernie Sanders that people talk about on social media is very different from the Bernie Sanders you hear about on the 6 oclock news.
Raise your hand if you knew that Bernie walked with Martin Luther King in the civil right movement.
Raise your hand if youve seen the picture of him getting arrested at the age of 22 for protesting segregation.
Keep your hands in the air if you get your news online.
Thats why we like him.
Thats why millennials flock to Bernie because in many ways, he was the original hipster, he was fighting the fight before it was cool.
We respect that.
We trust him.
Bernie is authentic.
He doesnt have to change who he is to make himself more likeable.
We know that he was fighting for gay rights in the 80s before anyone else was.
We know he voted against the Iraq war.
We know over 200 leading economists have endorsed his policies.
We know he has the highest approval rating of any senator or member of Congress.
We know he has over 30 years of experience in elected office, if that isnt experience, I dont know what is.
We know that in August, 28,000 people showed up in Portland to see him speak at a rally and there was no media coverage of the event what-so-ever from mainstream media.
We know that in matchup polls, Bernie beats all the top republicans in a landslide while Hillary loses to all of them except for Donald Trump who only wins by a small margin.
That should scare you!
So, people tell me that she is more qualified and can get things done.
I personally believe there is a difference between getting things done and making progress.
Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate for the political system we currently have but Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to build the system that we should have.
Because right now politicians have more loyalty to the people who fund their campaigns than the people they are supposed to represent.
And that is the issue at the heart of this campaign.
It is not the single issue.
But it is the foundational issue that is necessary to achieving all other progressive goals, including Hillary Clintons.
Because we are never going to enact radical climate change legislation as long as the fossil fuel industry is spending $1.8 billion a year to convince politicians that climate change isn't real.
I'm sorry, I don't believe Hillary Clinton is going to reign in Wall Street as long as 4 out of 5 of her top campaign donors are banks.
(Inaudible) conflict of interest.
Most countries would call this corruption, we call it lobbying and it is completely legal.
When I look at Bernie Sanders, I don't see a 73 year old politician, I see a 22 year old activist.
Not unlike myself, who knows that leadership is about purpose, not position.
And that activism has given me a reason to believe in the impossible because he's already doing it.
It was supposed to be impossible to overtake a 56 point lead but we're doing it.
It was supposed to be impossible to run a campaign without a super PAC but we're doing it.
(Guy on stage shuts her off, booing erupts)
You have a choice to make. You have a choice.
Don't tell me it's impossible to put the power back into the hands of the people.
It's not impossible.
To older Bernie supporters: You rock. I promise, as a young person, to step up my game. Colorado and Minnesota show us the way.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/03/1494855/-This-is-who-is-going-to-win-the-election-for-Bernie
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Qutzupalotl
(15,823 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)She stood strong in spite of the sphincter police trying to elbow her out of the way.
Segami
(14,923 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)
haikugal
(6,476 posts)K&R!!
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Behold the power of not growing old in your mind.
jillan
(39,451 posts)"Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate for the political system we currently have but Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to build the system that we should have. "
Segami
(14,923 posts)snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to build the system that we should have.
Bang on!! Brilliant speaker.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)"We don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" - Bob Dylan
And we don't believe the corporate media propaganda.
I'm 63. I get all of my news online and most of the people I associate with do as well. For me this revolution is about ideas, justice, fairness, environmental responsibility and respect for each other regardless of race, creed, orientation or age.
Great post.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)(and I'm including both Boomers, which I'm one, and the genuinely downtrodden GenXers) but ESPECIALLY the Boomers who think they own everything, is that the younger generation, the Millennials, are truly the wave of the future. And given that they support in huge numbers a man who is at best just barely a Boomer, and more accurately a very late member of the preceeding generation, the Silent Generation, there's a genuine seismic shift happening.
madokie
(51,076 posts)and yes it is an example of what we're up against and why we must do this.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)That was wonderfully powerful.
Thank you for sharing that.
Uncle Joe
(65,134 posts)Thanks for the thread, Segami.
ReasonableToo
(505 posts)point about the internet and news applies to black voters too and why many of them love Hillary. A Pew Research conducted in 2014 showed that African Americans had 12% less access to broad band internet than whites would have and once above college age it increased to about 30%. This I thought was reason Clinton got more black votes in South not because as Hillary establishment machine has put out is that Bernie supporters think blacks are dumb.etc. It is same reason we see is wrong with whole system and Hillary. Money controls everything. And media from TV does it's best to keep establishment in power and want Hillary so the are telling blacks who to vote for by lying about Sanders or just not giving him the exposure and non ruling class needs. Hence why DNC only gave 6 debates to us this time when in 2008 there was 26.
tech3149
(4,452 posts)It's not just black voters that are so affected. I'm an old fart but I had to be more computer/internet friendly for work so I'm the outlier. Most of the people of my age or older know the world through the tiny little window of the television.
If you're poor, chances are most of your exposure to the world comes through commercial broadcast media. By their very business model they don't exist based on their provision of pertinent and accurate information, they just sell you shit.
I always offer the same advice to those that don't seem to be well informed on any subject. As per John Prine "Turn off the TV, throw away the paper" Put commercial media where it belongs, in the trash bin. Use the resources available to find independent sources who have a history of being right. Even more important is to never accept anything on face value. Even the most honest source can present a distorted view on select subjects.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Not in terms of race or age, which can sound like contempt for older people and minorities, but in terms of where people get their news from. People who get their news filtered through the lens of the corporate media are more likely to support Hillary. Hopefully they can hammer home that point without resorting to that patronising term "low-information voters".
tech3149
(4,452 posts)but I guess I overestimated the ability to resist the propoganda poured down our thoats daily.
PatrickforO
(15,425 posts)showed up Tuesday in Colorado to caucus for Bernie. Bernie's the BEST CANDIDATE THAT WE'VE HAD IN MY VOTING LIFETIME and I'm with him to the White House. Plenty of Boomers like me like Bernie a lot, and if you kids show up like you did in Colorado, Bernie is gonna win. No doubt about it.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)That's the BEST point taken from that speech. Loved it. Bravo.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)+1
pablo_marmol
(2,375 posts)Posts like this keep me from going through my days with my chin down!
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)The crowd cheers her on! "Let her finish!" "Let her finish!" They take her mike away before she's done. A young man leaps to her defense, gives her back the mike! And she completes this marvelous speech to more applause and cheers!
Wow! Dauntless young woman! Quick-thinking, knight-in-shining armor young man!
And her speech is perfection itself as advocacy for Bernie Sanders!
I can't imagine this happening for Hillary Clinton. With Clinton, we get Bill interfering with polling places, and the Secret Service removing paying black guests who politely try to get through to Hillary about her advocacy for mass incarceration. We get election shenanigans all over the map. We get double-talk of all kinds, from Hillary and her supporters. But what we DON'T get is this clear, straightforward, passionately committed statement of reasons to vote for Clinton. Because she's "inevitable"? Because she's "experienced"? Because she'll maybe, just maybe, squeak out $12/hr for us peons from her billionaire bankster pals? It just isn't there. The reasons are not there.
This speech and event eloquently tells us that the future of our country is in good hands! Hoorah for these brilliant, courageous youngsters!
And Bernie Sanders needs to talk about net neutrality! Cuz that's the NEXT thing that's going to be taken from us, by the "Telecommunications Act" Clintons or the outright fascists on the other side, if either succeeds in gaining the Presidency.
This is the young woman's main point. Her generation is ignoring the corporate media and getting their information from the internet--that is how they know who Bernie Sanders is, what he has been doing all his life, how advanced he has always been in his thinking, whether on black civil rights or gay rights or systemic campaign money corruption. The corporate media has blockaded this information, as well as info about the phenomenal rallies that the Sanders campaign has put on.
Note: A couple of comments for this vid on Reddit are weird. A commenter named Macwylee keeps saying that Bernie is "getting crushed nationally." It looks like he's a Trump supporter. In any case, this is simply not true, as most of us know by now. A closer look at primaries/caucuses to date, and other indicators such as national polls showing that Sanders crushes Trump and all Republicans and Clinton doesn't, and Sanders huge "favorability" ratings (with Clinton's in the toilet)--not to mention Sanders raising $6Million from small donors in one day alone!--show that an "impossible" campaign has become viable! Far from being crushed, Sanders is thriving, while Clinton is just limping along and not doing as well as her media friends predicted. She certainly has no such advocates as this young woman in CO--brilliant, dauntless. Wow!
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)This person and people like her, people of her age especially give me hope for the future. Awesome speech! Excellent! Thanks for posting this Segami!
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Lies and all.
think
(11,641 posts)If not that may be your problem....
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Bernie comes off as trustworthy and we feel drawn to that. Hillary comes off as not trustworthy. A lot of the rest is motivated reasoning - we find things that "justify" not wanting Hillary to be elected. Hillary supporters find things to justify not being a Bernie supporter. However, there does seem to be a big difference in the reasons: Bernie like guns vs. Hillary blatently lied about supporting trade deals.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)our yutes just might have a say on the direction this country is headed.. and for that I am thankful
Segami
(14,923 posts)
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)Gives me some hope that the millenials will rise up.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)That's why they tried to get her off of the stage!
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid