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[ananda]

1. Well...

Attacking Warren is probably pretty useless and pointless.

However, I'm not surprised that she's holding back. She's also
a former Reep.

[MoonRiver]

24. "A former Reep?"

Guess the days of Warren worship are over. Your post just reinforces what riversedge said.

[w4rma]

2. "Being a bully" That's rich considering most of Hillary's endorsements are from bullying. (nt)

[riversedge]

6. Those who attack Warrens on-line are the bullies that I am referring to. Try to focus on the OP

[w4rma]

7. You should try to focus on the real bullying. (nt)

[giftedgirl77]

8. Making up shit doesn't make it true.

[sufrommich]

10. "most of Hillary's endorsements are from bullying"

[w4rma]

13. Gabbard: People warned me against endorsing Sanders

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said that even though "a lot of people" warned her against endorsing Bernie Sanders, she did it anyway because of the "high stakes" around the coming election.

The Hawaii Democrat was speaking to MSNBC Tuesday night when host Brian Williams asked her about splitting with many in her party in her endorsement.

“Congresswoman, I know that as an Iraq war veteran, you don’t scare easily, but you obviously have gained doubt, what happens if by splitting with the Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, DNC, and let’s say Sen. Sanders is not successful, how unpleasant life can become for a Democrat in the house under a president Clinton?” Williams asked.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders-220103

[sufrommich]

14. Was she threatened? What people warned her? Her friends? Her family?

If she's making the claim that she was threatened by the democratic party,she needs to name names.

[w4rma]

15. Maybe she doesn't want to damage *their* careers and is trying to be a loyal Democrat.

I think that she's stuck her neck out enough to garner my admiration. She doesn't need to out anyone else.

[sufrommich]

17. Right,either that or you're attaching fictional

threats to her comment.

[w4rma]

19. You're attacking strawmen, because you need to divert from the truth of my statement. (nt)

[sufrommich]

21. There is no truth to your statement. Using the word

"strawman" in your defense is hilarious though.

[w4rma]

27. You're just trying to pull me down into the mud pit with you. I'm out, for now. (nt)

[mcar]

18. Link to proof of this please

[w4rma]

20. Gabbard: People warned me against endorsing Sanders

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said that even though "a lot of people" warned her against endorsing Bernie Sanders, she did it anyway because of the "high stakes" around the coming election.

The Hawaii Democrat was speaking to MSNBC Tuesday night when host Brian Williams asked her about splitting with many in her party in her endorsement.

“Congresswoman, I know that as an Iraq war veteran, you don’t scare easily, but you obviously have gained doubt, what happens if by splitting with the Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, DNC, and let’s say Sen. Sanders is not successful, how unpleasant life can become for a Democrat in the house under a president Clinton?” Williams asked.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders-220103

[mcar]

23. One person's comments in an interview is not proof of your assertion

[w4rma]

26. I've read multiple examples of Hillary's bullying for power.

It will take me some time, but I'll start posting them all over since you've got me thinking about it.

[thucythucy]

28. Really? You think she "bullied" John Lewis? Nt.

[w4rma]

31. Cornell West is correct about John Lewis being a neoliberal sell-out.

John Lewis has lost his way and, as of today, is in it for the money, just like any other white Republican politician is.

[thucythucy]

32. Jesus! "John Lewis "is in it for the money."

What a reprehensible and ignorant statement.

What a disgusting smear of a courageous American who risked death and disability to further human rights.

[w4rma]

36. You know who else risked death and disability to further human rights?

Bernie Sanders did. The KKK targeted white folks, big time, for murder in those days.

But Camp Weathervane wants to have it both ways and put Lewis on a giant pedestal where they call everyone who calls the guy out a "racist" for doing so, when they *KNOW* that his problems are not about race, but about abusing power and moneyed corruption.

So, quit pretending to be aghast. It's an act.

[yardwork]

40. I'm really unimpressed.

I feel moved to respond to this.

I'm sure that Bernie Sanders was a strong advocate for civil rights in the 1960s, but to suggest that any risks he took were comparable to the courage shown by John Lewis and so many others borders on offensive.

This is not a winning strategy. I would drop it.

Btw, I'm white.

[haikugal]

3. I don't believe this story. Anyone can call themselves a Bernie supporter, even paid trolls. nt

[GoneFishin]

29. You really think that could be possible? To be a fake Bernie supporter sabateur you would need to ..

have access to a computer, and know what the internet is.

Sounds pretty unlikely.

[GoneFishin]

30. Another appearance by the Hillary Dirty Tricks Squad.

This story is bullshit.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Worth highlighting

From your excerpt:

Most of the people who support Bernie were just looking to root for a populist hippie candidate, not to get dragged into some kind of Orwellian political suicide pact.

[NurseJackie]

16. Yikes! (Way harsh. But probably accurate.)

[Hortensis]

35. "Owellian suicide pact." Harsh, heck yes, but

I was just reading this and thinking once again how inherently destructive extremist movements tend to be. Oh, some iconoclastic, seemingly extremist ideas can add real benefit, but most extremist movements are intrinsically dysfunctional and fail due to self destruction, mercifully. I say mercifully because some very, very few do succeed for a while, even taking over whole nations, before ultimately failing, leaving destruction behind.

[fredamae]

5. Lol....Do you really believe

these people are Sanders supporters? Sure-there may be a few-but this is Opposition Tactical nonsense. Pretty sure Warren understands that.

[CoffeeCat]

9. This seems like one of those Clinton/Rovian set ups to make Bernie supporters look bad

I've met thousands of Bernie supporters across the country, and I don't know ONE person who would do something like this.

Whoever these people are, they don't represent Bernie supporters.

I doubt these are Bernie supporters. Sounds like the Clintons are playing their usual dirty games. When they're not calling Bernie a racist or a sexist or sending out David Brock to say, "Bernie just doesn't care about people of color"--they're setting up shit like this.

Does anyone doubt that the Clintons would stoop to this level?

Yes, Bernie supporters wish that we had Warren's endorsement. The Clinton supporters wish that they had it too. But you know what, Bernie supporters didn't take to the Washington Post and use powerful Senators to pressure Warren into an endorsement either. An entire WaPo article, filled with quotes from McCaskill, Feinstein and Stabenow--publicly shamed and pressured Warren to climb on board the Hillary bus. Furthermore, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, last week, co-sponsored and introduced legislation that would gut the payday regulations that Warren has been working on for years.

Paybacks for not endorsing Hillary? Nothing like stabbing the poor and the vulnerable in the face, just to spite Warren, now is there Debbie?

I think what's obvious here is that the Clinton camp is the one with the problem when it comes to Warren and playing dirty games. Now, they're trying to hurt Warren and the Bernie supporters with this scheme.

I think the Clinton camp needs to start practicing some of the "love and kindness" that Clinton says she's such a big fan of, these days.

[Wilms]

11. "...forcing his reasonable supporters to think twice"???

Nice headline. There is ZERO in that article (from a Pro-Clinton site) to support the claim.

Another unsupported claim from the Clinton Clan.

Please be respectful and avoid posting this kind of nonsense.

[thucythucy]

41. This is purely anecdotal

but I'm a Bernie supporter who has been quite distressed over posts here on DU by people who claim to be Bernie supporters.

I voted for Bernie on Tuesday, but posts like Post 35 in this thread really make me wonder about some of the people participating in this "revolution."

In fact, I've found many of the responses on DU to how the African American community went for Clinton to be extremely disturbing. From "Stockholm syndrome" to charging that the AA group here is "astroturf" it seems that there are a number of Bernie supporters doing more harm to the cause than good. I'm particularly bothered by how so many Bernie supporters seem to believe anyone who supports Clinton is either paid off (again, see post 35), "bullied" or an idiot. These are fellow Democrats we're talking about, some of them longstanding champions of human rights, and a simple degree of respect should be part of the mix. I should add that this should apply to BOTH sides.

It could well be that there are trolls from various factions and organizations at work on this. All the more reason for folks who are genuine Bernie supporters to call them out and distance themselves from that sort of vitriol. I've seen this happen on DU--I think the "Stockholm syndrome" poster was indeed called out for that ridiculous comment--but I've also seen some pretty egregious posts allowed to stand pretty much without challenge.

Will this change my mind about Bernie? No. But will it turn off some people on the fence, people we still need to persuade? I worry it will.

Fact is, I used to recommend DU to my less politically involved friends as a place to get a feel for progressive Democratic politics. But because of the scorched earth comments of so many here, not to mention what seems to be racially insensitive commentary by some, I stopped doing that months ago.

Like I said--this is just me, just one anecdote. But I suspect there may be others like me who feel much the same.

[whatchamacallit]

12. What dogshit

Hey, why just settle for dividing democrats by race, let's whip up another false narrative to divide Bernie supporters while we're at it!

[jillan]

22. I smell bullshit.

[Nanjeanne]

25. And we know they are Bernie ppl because no one pretends to be anything

else on the Internet!

I've seen plenty of nutty posts on FB that when you click on the name there is zero info. Could they be Republicans -- or heavens, even Clinton supporters. Or just trolls making up FB pages to create havoc. Ya think?

[Shadowflash]

33. The visual equivalent of the OP --

[djean111]

39. Bwah! EXACTLY!!!!!!!!

Actually, it seems to me that most of Hillary's campaign consists of trying to blow smoke up voters' asses. Hmmmm, all of her campaign, really.

[Avalux]

34. This is just another Brock attempt to smear Bernie supporters.

If Bernie was "DONE" and had no path to the nomination, why bother with this?

[djean111]

37. Think twice about what? Even if Warren and/or Bernie did not exist, I could not support Hillary,

because of issues that affect actual people.

This is just wishful thinking propaganda bullshit.

Oh, and if Warren endorsed Hillary, i would shrug - and still support Bernie.

Issues, not endorsements. Bottom line.

[G_j]

38. I don't believe it

"Bernie's fanatics"?? Something smells bad.