2016 Postmortem
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Partial transcript from reddit:
Its not that we want free stuff.
Its not that we dont understand economics.
And its not that were naïve about political realities.
Its simply that the majority of young adults get their news online and the Bernie Sanders that people talk about on social media is very different from the Bernie Sanders you hear about on the 6 oclock news.
Raise your hand if you knew that Bernie walked with Martin Luther King in the civil right movement.
Raise your hand if youve seen the picture of him getting arrested at the age of 22 for protesting segregation.
Keep your hands in the air if you get your news online.
Thats why we like him.
Thats why millennials flock to Bernie because in many ways, he was the original hipster, he was fighting the fight before it was cool.
We respect that.
We trust him.
Bernie is authentic.
He doesnt have to change who he is to make himself more likeable.
We know that he was fighting for gay rights in the 80s before anyone else was.
We know he voted against the Iraq war.
We know over 200 leading economists have endorsed his policies.
We know he has the highest approval rating of any senator or member of Congress.
We know he has over 30 years of experience in elected office, if that isnt experience, I dont know what is.
We know that in August, 28,000 people showed up in Portland to see him speak at a rally and there was no media coverage of the event what-so-ever from mainstream media.
We know that in matchup polls, Bernie beats all the top republicans in a landslide while Hillary loses to all of them except for Donald Trump who only wins by a small margin.
That should scare you!
So, people tell me that she is more qualified and can get things done.
I personally believe there is a difference between getting things done and making progress.
Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate for the political system we currently have but Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to build the system that we should have.
Because right now politicians have more loyalty to the people who fund their campaigns than the people they are supposed to represent.
And that is the issue at the heart of this campaign.
It is not the single issue.
But it is the foundational issue that is necessary to achieving all other progressive goals, including Hillary Clintons.
Because we are never going to enact radical climate change legislation as long as the fossil fuel industry is spending $1.8 billion a year to convince politicians that climate change isn't real.
I'm sorry, I don't believe Hillary Clinton is going to reign in Wall Street as long as 4 out of 5 of her top campaign donors are banks.
[Inaudible] conflict of interest.
Most countries would call this corruption, we call it lobbying and it is completely legal.
When I look at Bernie Sanders, I don't see a 73 year old politician, I see a 22 year old activist.
Not unlike myself, who knows that leadership is about purpose, not position.
And that activism has given me a reason to believe in the impossible because he's already doing it.
It was supposed to be impossible to overtake a 56 point lead but we're doing it.
It was supposed to be impossible to run a campaign without a super PAC but we're doing it.
[Guy on stage shuts her off, booing erupts]
You have a choice to make. You have a choice.
Don't tell me it's impossible to put the power back into the hands of the people.
It's not impossible.

WillyT
(72,631 posts)

wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)thank you FourScore.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)BTW -- where have all those millennials been at the polls?
gcomeau
(5,764 posts)..."once upon a time we tried and failed to get a seriously liberal President. Never try again then we can't be disappointed"?
Hooray for defeatism and being cowed by the right?
mountain grammy
(26,198 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)bjobotts
(9,141 posts)I don't trust Hillary but I like her and the good she's managed to get done but we will not change much with her because she is a multimillionaire far removed from the common man or the middle class. She's been running for president for 10+ years and is a good campaigner. Bernie had to be talked into running and only did because he wanted to make Washington hear what the average man wanted...not what the millionaires wanted. Bernie is running to help Americans get what they want and to end income inequality and end this oligarchy and make America work for everyone again. Affordable health care for everyone. Bernie stands for what most Americans say they want...Hillary just wants to be president.
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)"
Bernie stands for what most Americans say they want...Hillary just wants to be president."
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bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)If it was only about himself, he would have set up superpacs and been a lot more selective in who he spoke with to get the job. The message is way more important than any one person or group. The original hipster thought hits at the heart of his appeal.
He's what he has always been, history has just caught up with his generational viewpoint. As a young man he did what he could for the underserved against the powers of a closed minded, racist establishment. After hearing the echoes of that era become a deafening roar in the last 10-15 years, he's again trying to do what he can to help those in need. It will take all of us to minimize the turn to the right this country will take after Obama leaves office. The reality is that Bernie is the only one that has a chance to build on what progress we've made in the last 8 years.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)living in poverty.
"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"
The Clintons are obsessed with wealth and power. How can a Democrat put that above helping those living in poverty.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)obsessed with amassing a wealth that puts them in the top 1% or the top 1%. How will things stop getting worse when she wants to continue with the status quo. She doesn't even deny it.
It's obvious that Big Money runs our government and Clinton is in deep with the Big Money. It's ironic but she is using Citizens United even though she pretends to be against it.
We are in a class war and Clinton favors Goldman-Sachs' side.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)

I have shared.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)if your hand remained up in the OP and you are NOT a young hipster!
Great post!!
elljay
(1,178 posts)That's the new 22, though, isn't it?
Love to see the millenials getting involved!
Rockyj
(538 posts)impacts their lives, and their children's lives. If Hillary is President expect very minimal results helping to resolve climate change. I was a hippie and protested the Vietnam War but in the late 70's like many of us we got caught up in the disco era & materialism.
I have two millennial daughters and I hate the kind of world we left them.
Is about to turn 16 and I can't promise her a better life and future. Makes me sad because I've worked so hard to give her the best I can.
If Hillary it is, I vow to be that splinter under her skin, doing what I can to keep her on the right path. She has no problem changing her positions when expedient so we will need to keep the pressure on constantly.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)I couldn't agree more.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)...
"Starting on Jan. 1, our 79-million-strong baby boom generation will be turning 65 at the rate of one every eight seconds. That means more than 10,000 people per day, or more than four million per year, for the next 19 years facing an increased risk of Alzheimers. Although the symptoms of this disease and other forms of dementia seldom appear before middle age, the likelihood of their appearance doubles every five years after age 65. Among people over 85 (the fastest-growing segment of the American population), dementia afflicts one in two. It is estimated that 13.5 million Americans will be stricken with Alzheimers by 2050 up from five million today.."
...
From a NY Times article, OCT. 27, 2010, "The Age of Alzheimers"
SANDRA DAY OCONNOR, STANLEY PRUSINER and KEN DYCHTWALD
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/28/opinion/28oconnor.html?_r=0
The results of this election have already started impacting us in a lot of ways. This is just one. There are tens upon tens of millions of others who will see other impacts before we ever to their children, or their children's children.
It may be part of a plan. It's easier to move people away from a coast inundated by rising seas if they have been moved to tar paper shacks first.
I'm 50 and my 26 yo daughter is sometimes more in tune than I am!
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)
Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)"Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate for the political system we currently have but Bernie Sanders is the most qualified candidate to build the system that we should have." ...
... well said ...
... damn well said ...
green917
(442 posts)N/t
SammyWinstonJack
(44,118 posts)
xloadiex
(628 posts)and go there quite often. Most of the people there are young enough to be my kids. To watch their passion, especially on election night is inspiring. When Bernie loses a state I feel like a mom who has let her kids down. It inspires me to work harder for Bernie. This is their future. I wish I had been more politically involved at that age.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Because it usually means a lot of sleepless nights, a whole hell of a lot of anger, and what feels like at the end of the day, wasted time trying to work towards a world where I don't have to spend the next 60 years of my life working in a job I hate just to stay afloat, and relegating what I love to "the hobby I work on when I'm not either exhausted or pissed off".
FailureToCommunicate
(13,744 posts)(You're feeling better I see. That's progress!)
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)Crises of faith are shit to roll through, but progress is progress. Had a couple really fruitful chats that more... Opened my eyes to the way things are. I just don't want to end up like my father at the end of the day. Man's in his late forties, and only just now doing what really makes him happy. I don't want that life, I don't want that life for my future children.
FailureToCommunicate
(13,744 posts)Many people struggle for years trying to even figure that much out.
There will be some hazards in the road to get there. But, that's part of the adventure. Otherwise life would be way to predictable and... boring.
appalachiablue
(40,102 posts)and approaches that must and will be advocated by movement activism of the people. This is not the time for centrist task managing governance.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Very well said. I like going to Reddit as well, just to make sure the youth are understanding what's really going on. So far, I'd say they have the truth covered.
H2O Man
(72,658 posts)Recommended.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,941 posts)and this young woman speaks for me.
lark
(22,748 posts)Thank you for posting this inspiring message!
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)
GoneOffShore
(17,198 posts)Absentee ballot, because I will be away.
And I don't trust the machines.
DeGreg
(72 posts)Put your thinking caps on. How do we make the case for Dems stuck in the MSM mind space ??? There's gotta be a way on the web and in the physical world to change these scaredy cat Dems who prefer too much status quo for their own good....
Ideas????
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)She also asked people not to be too harsh towards the old guys onstage. They were trying to enforce a time limit. The problem was that no one had announced what the time limit was before she spoke.
Agreed that taking the mic away was a heavier-handed way to handle that than necessary. God knows what would've happened to that guy if he'd been in Seattle and tried that move on the BLM women.
vanlassie
(5,476 posts)Blus4u
(608 posts)KnR
Peace
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Powerful 'speaching' skills this one has!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)I had to stop reading here because that is flat out untrue. And this is why I pay no attention to the stuff kids post on Reddit.
demosocialist
(184 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And Bernie told a WHOPPER during the last town hall where he inferred they DID endorse all his proposals including single payer. That is simply 100% false (and sadly typical for Bernie).
demosocialist
(184 posts)And I am not into the mudslinging for either side, so yeah, I simply gave you what I thought the young woman was referring too. That is why I prefaced it with "make of it what you will"
So, now I have to get ready to watch another Republican Trainwreck Debate
hope to see you there to laugh along with me
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)And you know why? Because that is the baloney Bernie is slinging. Even though it is completely false. Please tell us who these 130 economists and healthcare experts are? They do not exist.
"CUOMO: Alright, in terms of what you want to provide, then you get to the wealth, will that be enough? Will that pay for it?
As you're aware, four former chairs of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, all appointed by Democrats, by the way. Say there's no credible economic research that supports the positive impacts that you're touting. One of them goes as far to say that it's like magic flying puppies with winning lotto tickets tied to their collars.
SANDERS: Those economists were organized by the Clinton campaign. It's a wild and crazy guess.
CUOMO: No, that's not true, they weren't...
SANDERS: ... We have well over a hundred, it's a 130 economists, and healthcare experts who will say the same."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1602/23/se.01.html
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Care to take a guess at how many "Economists" there are in the US?
Every other developed nation in the WORLD has implemented a plan similar to Bernie's, but we can't make it work here in the RICHEST country?
NO. WE. CAN'T!
Jarqui
(9,783 posts)You're supporting a candidate who basically lies as easily as she breathes.
She appears to have done so her entire political life - certainly since she showed up in Washington.
She seems to have executed some form of deception nearly every day for the last several weeks of this contest. For more on that, try reading the threads on this site with a smidgen of objectivity. There are hundreds of videos on the net demonstrating her incessant dishonesty using her own words.
And you are posting that you are concerned about the accuracy of what Bernie has to say?
The dishonesty of the candidate you support makes Richard Nixon look like a good guy. Her brash, rampant dishonesty is worse than Tricky Dick.
Sorry, I cannot take your concern about Bernie seriously given who you support. If you were really concerned about integrity, you would be writing non stop about how your own candidate falls so miserably short.
senz
(11,945 posts)... which she'll conveniently forget ...
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Do you have the list of the "130 economists and healthcare experts" he is referring to here?
Please tell us who these 130 economists and healthcare experts are? They do not exist.
"CUOMO: Alright, in terms of what you want to provide, then you get to the wealth, will that be enough? Will that pay for it?
As you're aware, four former chairs of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, all appointed by Democrats, by the way. Say there's no credible economic research that supports the positive impacts that you're touting. One of them goes as far to say that it's like magic flying puppies with winning lotto tickets tied to their collars.
SANDERS: Those economists were organized by the Clinton campaign. It's a wild and crazy guess.
CUOMO: No, that's not true, they weren't...
SANDERS: ... We have well over a hundred, it's a 130 economists, and healthcare experts who will say the same."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1602/23/se.01.html
green917
(442 posts)It may not be quite 200 but, close
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/14/170-economists-bernie-sanders-plan-reform-wall-st-rein-greed.html
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)It's endorsing ONE proposal. And I have indeed seen him infer they endorse ALL his proposals, including his single payer plan. He did that during the last townhall. And that is FLAT OUT untrue.
I've saved the transcript of that particular whopper. Would you care to see it?
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)http://www.budget.senate.gov/democratic/public/index.cfm/2015/7/top-economists-are-backing-sen-bernie-sanders-on-establishing-a-15-an-hour-minimum-wage
170 Economists Endorse Bernie Sanders Plan To Reform Wall St. And Rein In Greed
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/14/170-economists-bernie-sanders-plan-reform-wall-st-rein-greed.html
Liberal Economists Defend Bernie Sanders Against a Chorus of Critics
http://observer.com/2016/02/liberal-economists-defend-bernie-sanders-against-a-chorus-of-critics/
Just because you don't like the information being given doesn't make it untrue.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)List please.
Please tell us who these 130 economists and healthcare experts are? They do not exist.
"CUOMO: Alright, in terms of what you want to provide, then you get to the wealth, will that be enough? Will that pay for it?
As you're aware, four former chairs of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, all appointed by Democrats, by the way. Say there's no credible economic research that supports the positive impacts that you're touting. One of them goes as far to say that it's like magic flying puppies with winning lotto tickets tied to their collars.
SANDERS: Those economists were organized by the Clinton campaign. It's a wild and crazy guess.
CUOMO: No, that's not true, they weren't...
SANDERS: ... We have well over a hundred, it's a 130 economists, and healthcare experts who will say the same."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1602/23/se.01.html
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)You didn't have enough time to do so before replying. If you had, you'd have seen over 210 economist listed in the first link.
You would have seen 170 named in the second link.
And in the third link you would have read how those who oppose Bernie's policies didn't bother to look and notice that one of the economists that supports it uses the SAME EXACT MODELS THEY USE.
One of the leading economists who are in full support of Bernie's policies is Bill Clinton's Secretary of Labor, Robert Reich.
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)MorningFrog
(16 posts)It seems to me that the media is trying to play this election like some sort of pseudo-reality tv program. They keep hyping about who is electable and who needs to drop out even though we have barely begun. This is not a boxing match. First punch doesn't win.
While either democratic candidate is better than all the republican ones combined, it is Bernie who is the best. It's not just his proposals and his political record. It is his personality. Bernie is for us and for USA, and also for the planet. Hillary is all about her, what she's done, what she wants to do.
The media is as much of a corporate special interest as any oil or banker. They have the same monopolies as the financial industry. The comments on the evening news are basically free ad-time for them.
Uncle Joe
(57,007 posts)Thanks for the thread, FourScore.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)It is the only medium that is keeping democracy alive on a National level.
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)America isn't people-friendly so something has to change.
FailureToCommunicate
(13,744 posts)I hate liars
(165 posts)Wonderful post, FourScore. Let me offer a perspective from the other end of the age spectrum.
This is what resonates most for me: "When I look at Bernie Sanders, I don't see a 73 year old politician, I see a 22 year old activist."
It resonates because, although I was born a few years too early to participate in the demonstrations of the late 60s, that's the era that forged my political values - anti-war, anti-interventionist, anti-poverty, anti-violence, labor rights, equal opportunity, pro civil rights, pro-civil liberties.
And if you don't allow yourself to get bought, those values stick with you for the rest of your life, because they are truly democratic.
I feel the same pressure you feel to justify my support for Bernie. I don't want free stuff. I understand economics better than the next person. I'm not politically naive.
And since the supreme court selected GWB as president in 2000, I've gotten my news online, exclusively.
Although I'm only pushing 63, I still see myself as that 22-year old who was slow to awaken to the corrupt politics of our country, but finally got it. As I near retirement age, I'm becoming more politically active, and now have the ability to contribute to Bernie and other true progressives. There are more of us out there than you might suspect!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)For example, who are these 130 economists that endorse how he pays for his proposals? Do you have a the list? It does not exist.
Please tell us who these 130 economists and healthcare experts are? They do not exist.
"CUOMO: Alright, in terms of what you want to provide, then you get to the wealth, will that be enough? Will that pay for it?
As you're aware, four former chairs of the White House Council of Economic Advisors, all appointed by Democrats, by the way. Say there's no credible economic research that supports the positive impacts that you're touting. One of them goes as far to say that it's like magic flying puppies with winning lotto tickets tied to their collars.
SANDERS: Those economists were organized by the Clinton campaign. It's a wild and crazy guess.
CUOMO: No, that's not true, they weren't...
SANDERS: ... We have well over a hundred, it's a 130 economists, and healthcare experts who will say the same."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1602/23/se.01.html
Hotler
(10,928 posts)
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)So yeah, I agree - it's a bunch of blah, blah, bullshit. Flat out false claim on his part.
I hate liars
(165 posts)Please read the post before replying, next time.
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)with the super-wealthy.
"The choice is stark, keep living under corporate rule under Hillary and watch things get worse, or go with Bernie and fight TPTB to regain our Representative Democracy!"
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)You know, considering some folks and their wives violate FEC rules and donate more to Bernie than legally allowed. Although I suppose folks that own a million dollar plus house and work for big Pharma can afford to do that.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)received from billionaires and corporations investing in quid pro quo and you try to compare them with Sen Sanders. He isn't a saint but your rationalization as to why you will ignore the 16,000,000 children living in poverty and instead vote for the wealthy 1% (in the Clinton's case, the top 1% of the top 1% and growing at the rate of $10,000,000 per year).
We are in a class war in which the Wealthiest (incl the Clintons) are winning at the expense of the 50,000,000 living in poverty.
Please choose the side of the 99%.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Personally, I don't believe such a list exists. Clearly, he must have misspoken.
Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Well then, a video just for you, with love
After watching this video, will you change your avatar? Fat chance, right?
yodermon
(6,143 posts)and you could/should have done the same before posting such a ridiculous assertion.
"It does not exist". OK.
ECONOMISTS AND HEALTH CARE EXPERTS IN SUPPORT OF BERNIE SANDERS
MEDICARE FOR ALL
Bernie Sanders Medicare-for-all plan for universal health care in the United States is the right
way to ensure affordable access to health care for all Americans.
The Affordable Care Act has made important strides in expanding health insurance, especially
for low-income and young Americans. It has instituted important protections against exclusion
from coverage. And it has empowered American workers, especially those with health
conditions. But 29 million people in this country remain uninsured, and many more struggle with
high co-payments and deductibles. Sen. Sanders plan delivers universal coverage at a fraction
of the cost because it replaces private health care premiums, co-payments and deductibles with a
single, smaller payment into the Medicare-for-all system. In short, the Sanders' plan will do
more and cost less than any privately-administered health insurance system.
We agree with Bernie Sanders that we must build on the proven record of over 50 years of the
Medicare program. We must provide the freedom and security to all Americans that comes with
finally separating health insurance from employment.
Bernie Sanders single-payer system would cost less than our current system because a singlepayer
system wouldnt spend huge sums on advertising, marketing, executive pay and billing, as
private insurers do. The Sanders single-payer system would empower Medicare to negotiate fair
prices for drugs and procedures. It would be financed by a fair and reasonable income-based
premium, replacing a battery of larger and more burdensome payments to private insurance
companies. By eliminating the profit-seeking interests of the insurance companies, the bills will
get paid, and there will be no more fighting with insurers who fail to pay in full or on time.
Every other major Western country has made the morally principled and financially responsible
decision to provide universal health insurance. The result in Europe, Canada and Japan is
better health at lower cost. The United States can do this. And we have a program Medicare
that shows how it can be done here.
SIGNERS:
1. James K. Galbraith, University of Texas
2. Dean Baker, Center for Economic and Policy Research
3. Robert Reich, University of California, Berkeley
4. Steffie Woolhandler, City University of New York and Harvard Medical School
5. David U. Himmelstein, City University of New York and Harvard Medical School
6. Eileen Appelbaum, Center for Economic and Policy Research
7. Robert Pollin, University of Massachusetts Amherst
8. Kevin Outterson, Boston University Law School
9. Victor G. Rodwin, New York University Robert F. Wagner Graduate School of Public Service
10. Gerald Friedman, University of Massachusetts Amherst
11. Michael Reisch, University of Maryland
12. Reynold F. Nesiba, Augustana University
13. Daniel Callahan, The Hastings Center
14. Mayo C. Toruño, California State University, San Bernardino
15. John T. Harvey, Department of Economics, Texas Christian University
16. Arthur MacEwan, University of Massachusetts Boston
17. Amitava Krishna Dutt, University of Notre Dame
18. Glen Atkinson, University of Nevada, Reno
19. William Van Lear, Belmont Abbey College
20. Lourdes Benería, Cornell University
21. William Waller, Hobart and William Smith Colleges
22. Hendrik Van den Berg, University of Nebraska
23. Diane Archer, Medicare Rights Center and Just Care USA
24. Larry Allen, Lamar University
25. James F. Burdick, Johns Hopkins Medicine
26. Leonard Rodberg, Queens College/CUNY
27. John Miller, Wheaton College
28. James K. Boyce, University of Massachusetts Amherst
29. Beatrix Hoffman, Northern Illinois University
30. Paddy Quick, St. Francis College, Brooklyn
31. Mary C. King, Portland State University
32. Allan MacNeill, Webster University
33. Paul A. Heise, Lebanon Valley College
34. Mark Weisbrot, Center for Economic and Policy Research
35. Nancy Altman, Social Security Works
36. Eric R. Kingson, Syracuse University
37. John F. Henry, Levy Economics Institute of Bard College
38. Antonio Callari, Franklin and Marshall College
39. Gar Alperovitz, Democracy Collaborative and The Next System Project
40. Adam Gaffney, Massachusetts General Hospital
41. John Dennis Chasse, SUNY Brockport
42. James M. Cypher, Universidad Autnoma de Zacatecas
43. Scott McConnell, Eastern Oregon University
44. Zohreh M Niknia, Mills College
45. L. Randall Wray, Levy Economics Institute of Bard College
46. Mitchell R. Green, Binzagr Institute for Sustainable Prosperity
47. Peter Arno, University of Massachusetts Amherst
48. Kalpana Khanal, Nichols College
49. Erik Dean, Portland Community College
50. Timothy A. Wunder, University of Texas at Arlington
51. Scott Fullwiler, Wartburg College
52. Linwood F. Tauheed, University of Missouri-Kansas City
53. Malinda Markowitz, California Nurses Association and National Nurses United
54. William S. Brown, retired academic economist
55. Doug Henwood, economics journalist and consultant
56. Barbara Katz-Rothman, CUNY Graduate School and University Center
57. Masanori Kuroki, Arkansas Tech University
58. Terrence McDonough, National University of Ireland Galway
59. RoseAnn DeMoro, National Nurses United
60. Helen Scharber, Hampshire College
61. Anita Dancs, Western New England University
62. Mona Ali, State University of New York at New Paltz
63. Michael Murray, Bemidji State University
64. William K. Tabb, City University of New York
65. Mary Turner, Minnesota Nurses Association
66. Rose Roach, Minnesota Nurses Association
67. Kathy Donohue, National Nurses United
68. Katy Roemer, National Nurses United
69. Deborah Burger, National Nurses United
70. Bernadine Engeldorf, National Nurses United and Minnesota Nurses Association
71. Michael Brün, Illinois State University and Illinois Wesleyan University
72. Karl Widerquist, Georgetown University
73. Jeannette Wicks-Lim, University of Massachusetts Amherst
74. Thomas Masterson, Levy Economics Institute of Bard College
75. Julie Pinkham, Minnesota Nurses Association and National Nurses United
76. Jonathan Millman, University of Massachusetts Boston
77. Christian Parenti, New York University
78. Maureen Dugan, California Nurses Association and National Nurses Organizing
Committee
79. Tae-Hee Jo, SUNY Buffalo State
80. Thomas Lambert, Northern Kentucky University
81. Barbara Garson, author
82. Anders Fremstad, Department of Economics, Colorado State University
83. Alison Welsh, California Nurses Association
84. David Welch, California Nurses Association
85. Martha Kuhl, National Nurses United
86. Geert Dhondt, John Jay College, The City University of New York
87. John Stifler, University of Massachusetts Amherst
88. Michael Meeropol, Western New England University
89. Peter Dorman, Evergreen State College
90. Kade Finnoff, University of Massachusetts Boston
91. David Eisnitz, Earlham College
92. Fabian Balardini, Borough to Manhattan Community College
93. Luis F. Brunstein, University of California, Riverside
94. Zhun Xu, Howard University
95. Yavuz Yasar, University of Denver
96. Karen Higgins, National Nurses United
97. Martese Chism, National Nurses United
98. Sean Flaherty, Franklin and Marshall College
99. Jean Ross, National Nurses United
100.Zenei T. Cortez, National Nurses Organizing Committee and National Nurses United
101.David Gleicher, Adelphi University
102.Fadhel Kaboub, Denison University, Binzagr Institute for Sustainable Prosperity
103.Bilge Erten, Northeastern University
104.Keane Bhatt, Democracy Collaborative and The Next System Project
105.Eric Tymoigne, Lewis & Clark College
106.Felipe Rezende, Hobart and William Smith Colleges
107.Pavlina R. Tcherneva, Bard College
108.Thomas Pogge, Yale University
109.David Barkin, Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana-Xochimilco
110.Richard Bruno, MedStar Health and Johns Hopkins University
111.Daniel MacDonald, California State University San Bernardino
112.Leanne Roncolato, Franklin and Marshall College
113.Ray Drasga, St. Clare Health Clinic
114.Claudia Chaufan, University of California, San Francisco
115.Rose Roach, Minnesota Nurse Association
116.Devin T. Rafferty, St. Peter's University
117.Martin Gunderson, Macalester College
118.Erik K. Olsen, University of Missouri Kansas City
119.Zdravka Todorova, Wright State University
120.Carlo D'Ippoliti, Sapienza University of Rome
121.Mary V. Wrenn, Girton College, University of Cambridge
122.Charalampos Konstantinidis, University of Massachusetts Boston
123.Vincent Navarro, Johns Hopkins University
124.Marcia Angell, Harvard Medical School
125.Robert Chernomas, University of Manitoba
126.Zoe Sherman, Merrimack College
127.Stewart Decker, Oregon Health and Science University
128.Max Romano, MedStar Franklin Square Medical Center & Johns Hopkins
Bloomberg School of Public Health
129.Corrado Di Guilmi, University of Technology Sydney
130.Wolfram Elsner, University of Bremen
131.Nathaniel Cline, University of Redlands
132.Dimitri Drekonja, University of Minnesota
133.Rachel Kreier, Saint Joseph's College
134.Bruce R. McFarling, International College Beijing
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robbob
(3,438 posts)That's only 134! NOT over 200!!! So Bernie must be a liar with no shred of integrity!
<sarcasm>
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)She's an excellent surrogate for Bernie even though she doesn't work for his campaign. I think Bernie should think about hiring her.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)And I agree that Bernie ought to think about hiring her!!
amborin
(16,631 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)Sanders' election strategy relied on a massive wave of left-wing support arrising out of nowhere and sweeping him to power.
If that support were there, it would have had a significantly stronger effect in the primaries - where the kind of people Sanders appeals to most are more heavily represented - than in the general election.
So we now *know* that the support for the revolution that Sanders promised, and relied on, does not exist, and that if the Democrats were to nominate a self-proclaimed Socialist then they would probably lose to Trump, and almost certainly lose to any other Republican.
The choice is not between president Clinton and president Sanders; it is between president Clinton and president Trump.
And I know how I'd vote in that contest.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)They lost Congress in a slaughter, they lost state governments in a mass slaughter, and and if Clinton is nominated. we'll lose the WH in a mass slaughter.
Third Way Centrism is the worst thing that ever happened to the Democratic party.
Y'all can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Third Way is terminal, with less than a year to live, and after it dies, may it rot in the deepest hole in hell forever.