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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:21 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton to Indian Audience: ‘OUTSOURCING has Benefited Many Parts of Our Country’



PRESS RELEASE


Clinton to Indian Audience: ‘Outsourcing has Benefited Many Parts of Our Country’



MARCH 4, 2016






BURLINGTON, Vt. – In a video from the Indian TV state NDTV from May 7, 2012, then-Secretary Hillary Clinton told an Indian audience that outsourcing benefited many parts of the United States: “Well, you know, it’s been going on for many years now and it’s part of our economic relationship with India, and I think that there are advantages with it that have certainly benefited many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to, you know, improve the job skills of our own people and create a better economic environment, so it’s, like anything it’s, you know, got pluses and minuses.”

Following a question from the host about a political ad by President Obama about outsourcing, Secretary Clinton laughingly responds, “Well, you know, it’s an election year . . . .”

Her remarks to the Indian audience stand in stark contrast to her comments here in the United States denouncing outsourcing.

For instance, in February 2004, Secretary Clinton said, “I do not think outsourcing American jobs is a new kind of trade . . . and I certainly do not believe it is a good thing.”
Congressional Record 2/10/04 Page S769

“This new video shows Secretary Clinton says different things to different audiences about outsourcing,” Jeff Weaver, Bernie 2016 campaign manager, said. “In the United States she condemns it but when she’s in India she says it has benefitted many parts of our country. Secretary Clinton should explain to the people of Michigan how they have benefited from the outsourcing of their manufacturing jobs.

“Given the Secretary’s long history of supporting job-crushing trade deals it’s not a surprise she thinks there are ‘pluses’ to outsourcing. But to go abroad and just describe it ‘as part of our economic relationship with India’ is disturbing when so many communities like Detroit and Flint that have been hurt so badly by outsourcing. America workers need a president they can trust to protect their jobs.”

Weaver also said the video shows why voters should be allowed to see the transcripts of Secretary Clinton secret paid speeches. “If she’s willing to say positive things about outsourcing when she knows she’s on film in India, we can only imagine what she told Goldman Sachs, foreign banking interests, drug companies and other corporate interests in those closed-door speeches she was paid millions to give. Voters deserve to see them.”

Full Text of Clinton’s remarks on outsourcing is below:

The entire video can be found here.
The relevant section begins at approximately 51:30.


Transcript below:


Audience: good morning ma’am, I’m also a part of the youth advisory council of the US government. so I have [inaudible] questions the first one is: with the possible cut down on outsourcing, [inaudible] protectionism, and [inaudible, will you do anything] about the jobs? And uhh

Host: okay let’s take one question at a time so we can get other people to respond.

Clinton: So you’re talking about outsourcing from the United States to India? Outsourcing from the United States to India? Well you know it’s been going on for many years now, and it’s part of our economic relationship with India, and I think that there are advantages with it that have certainly benefited many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to, you know improve the job skills of our own people and create a better economic environment, so it’s, like anything it’s, you know, got pluses and minuses.

Host: There’s a new advertisement in the election campaign of President Obama, that causing a lot of [inaudible hot word?] about outsourcing.

Clinton: Well, you know it’s an election campaign, and there is an obligation in any election campaign

Host: to overstate a little bit?

Clinton: Well I’m not overstating I wouldn’t go that far, but to talk about what’s on people’s minds, and you know it’s more directed toward the fear that a lot of Americans who were in manufacturing, who don’t feel like they have any other job possibilities because they weren’t trained for any other job possibilities, so it’s a legitimate issue, it needs to be aired, but i think the President has been very clear that he wants to improve our own exports. You know when we’re on our way to doubling our exports, he wants to improve education, skills training so that people can have the jobs of the 21st century. So it’s fair to talk about but you also have to have a solution that looks at what’s really going to work.




https://berniesanders.com/press-release/clinton-to-indian-audience-outsourcing-has-benefited-many-parts-of-our-country/





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Hillary Clinton to Indian Audience: ‘OUTSOURCING has Benefited Many Parts of Our Country’ (Original Post) Segami Mar 2016 OP
Yes, it has benefited corporations in many parts of our country. djean111 Mar 2016 #1
Outsourcing is gutting the American IT industry. peacebird Mar 2016 #2
Abbott Labs in Illinois outsourcing jobs, making laid off workers whathehell Mar 2016 #7
And we are encouraged to dream of "inventing the next Facebook" instead of having a damn job. arcane1 Mar 2016 #13
+1000 nt abelenkpe Mar 2016 #19
Insourcing foreign workers is also gutting American IT jobs. Akicita Mar 2016 #30
Coincidentally Hillary ALSO supports more H1B visas.... peacebird Mar 2016 #31
And HGC's buddy Rahm Emmanuel promised a portion of Chicago city jobs will be reserved for Akicita Mar 2016 #32
It has benefited the .01%, most definitely, Hillary. Not so much everyone else. nt valerief Mar 2016 #3
Thank you! SoapBox Mar 2016 #24
And we wonder why UglyGreed Mar 2016 #4
"Jobs of the 21st Century" - that bullshit line again. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #5
I heard "Jobs of the 21st Century" were over a bridge built to the 21st Century somewhere, but Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #6
Gig jobs abelenkpe Mar 2016 #18
I wonder if every H1B is a new job? LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #25
the answer is no. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #28
Hillary Clinton is part of the problem... damned sure not part of the solution. AzDar Mar 2016 #8
The kind of job I do in the military is the kind of job Clinton wants to send away. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #9
This would make a very good campaign ad. senz Mar 2016 #10
Wow Chelsea2032 Mar 2016 #11
Why Hillary's Word Is Meaningless and Unreliable, exhibit # 1,574 arcane1 Mar 2016 #12
I think this was misinterpreted olddots Mar 2016 #14
it benefits corporate CEOS and shareholders. nt antigop Mar 2016 #15
So I benefitted having my 18 year secure abelenkpe Mar 2016 #16
I think Hillary should run for President of India. Outsourcing at it's best. jalan48 Mar 2016 #17
+ 10 That's hysterical! appalachiablue Mar 2016 #22
LoL! Perfect. nt Duppers Mar 2016 #38
K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #20
From the expressions in that photo, the audience isn't buying it either. sarge43 Mar 2016 #21
the owners, the human brokers for the indenturees, media flacks that yell about the "STEM shortage" MisterP Mar 2016 #23
And polls reflect this, her trust rating is among the lowest if not the lowest of all candidates pdsimdars Mar 2016 #26
"improve the job skills of our own people" dana_b Mar 2016 #27
Many positions are filled by less qualified H1B workers, as more expensive Americans are laid off peacebird Mar 2016 #33
No way! charlespercydemocrat Mar 2016 #29
This is the kind of thing that makes me worried about our chances vintx Mar 2016 #34
K/R moondust Mar 2016 #35
Two Clintons. 41 Years. $3 Billion. Inside The Clinton Donor Network (Washington Post 11-19-15) bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #36
Wow! Duppers Mar 2016 #37
bullshit, I've had two good tech jobs outsourced away from me Amishman Mar 2016 #39
The people who used to work at the now defunct printing plant near me and the Vinca Mar 2016 #40
Outsourcing = Indentured Servitude and Loss of STEM Jobs , Promotes Age Discrimination Impedimentus Mar 2016 #41
That's a Trump campaign commercial that writes itself. Jesus fucking Christ. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #42
Hillary acts like she is on an inside joke where those who don't agree with her are just too stupid Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #43
It could benefit Americans treestar Mar 2016 #44
Yep. Those parts of the country that are the live, work, and play enclaves of the 1%. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #45
The New World Order can ALL go to hell...n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #46

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
7. Abbott Labs in Illinois outsourcing jobs, making laid off workers
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

train the foreigners who are taking their jobs. Sickening ecample of 'adding insult to injury'.

Dick Durbin complained to them on a letter...Don't know

if it will do any good.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
13. And we are encouraged to dream of "inventing the next Facebook" instead of having a damn job.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:19 PM
Mar 2016

Either be a billionaire inventor of some new application, or serve hamburgers at McDonald's.

Those are the choices our leaders want to leave us with.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
30. Insourcing foreign workers is also gutting American IT jobs.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

What's the difference between outsourcing American jobs to foreigners and insourcing foreigners to take American jobs? Both put Americans out of work, make the rich richer and the middle class poorer.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
32. And HGC's buddy Rahm Emmanuel promised a portion of Chicago city jobs will be reserved for
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:22 PM
Mar 2016

undocumented immigrants denying good jobs to AA citizens in a city with a sky high AA unemployment rate.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
4. And we wonder why
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

so many Americans would be devastated by a 500 hundred emergency or that there are 46.7 million people living in poverty......

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
6. I heard "Jobs of the 21st Century" were over a bridge built to the 21st Century somewhere, but
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

that bridge turned out to be a bridge to nowhere!

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
18. Gig jobs
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

Y'know where you're brought on per project, work long hours for a short time and no benefits. I've had many of these since my old 20th century style staff position was off shored. Wonder if each one is counted as a new job to boost employment numbers? That would be funny.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
28. the answer is no.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

A decade ago I was a contract software engineer. I think the main pressure was from Microsoft but they wanted to expand the H1B visas to bring in cheap software people from India and Pakistan.
Many of my friends I had met from different parts of the country, especially one guy from Virginia, talked about training the H1B guy who would be taking over their job. My friend in Virginia said that the month he got laid off there were about 3,0000 new H1B visa workers in Virginia. He knew this because there is a government website where they are required to post the numbers.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
9. The kind of job I do in the military is the kind of job Clinton wants to send away.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

And then what am I supposed to do, after eight years of wasted time(assuming I live that long if she gets the presidency)?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
10. This would make a very good campaign ad.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:01 PM
Mar 2016

I hope the Bernie campaign, or some other group, does it.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
14. I think this was misinterpreted
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

Many farts of our country instead of parts of our country ......She who smelt ot dealt it .

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
21. From the expressions in that photo, the audience isn't buying it either.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:42 PM
Mar 2016

All that picture needs is a photoshop of a thought balloon "Bullsh*t!"

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. the owners, the human brokers for the indenturees, media flacks that yell about the "STEM shortage"
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:48 PM
Mar 2016
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
26. And polls reflect this, her trust rating is among the lowest if not the lowest of all candidates
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:55 PM
Mar 2016

People already know this about her, what she says depends on the audience she says it to. What's the hashtag "whichHillary". Exactly.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
27. "improve the job skills of our own people"
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

with regards to the IT industry, I would say that she may have a point but there are so many here who have the education and still can't get the jobs because the Indians will come over here on special visas and work for much lower wages than we will. It's a bunch of b.s.!

Then if she is talking about the call centers, well, please.... most of our workers with minimal training could do those jobs! It's just the corporations are money hungry assholes who don't want to pay a living wage.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
34. This is the kind of thing that makes me worried about our chances
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:28 PM
Mar 2016

IF shes our nominee. Which I hope she isn't

And the GOP has been preparing to run against her for decades. I dread to think of the ads that will come out if she's in the GE. This kind of thing will destroy our chances of winning.

They're just going to talk about how Bill ushered in NAFTA and see how that worked out and we will lose so many voters. So many people are saying she has the nomination sewn up and I'm'm seriously worried.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
36. Two Clintons. 41 Years. $3 Billion. Inside The Clinton Donor Network (Washington Post 11-19-15)
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

"Both Clintons declined to be interviewed or comment for this article."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/clinton-money

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
39. bullshit, I've had two good tech jobs outsourced away from me
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:17 AM
Mar 2016

ugh, if I actually typed out how mad that statement makes me, I would get a hide.

This is why she cannot be allowed to win the nomination.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
40. The people who used to work at the now defunct printing plant near me and the
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

now defunct paper plant and the now defunct handbag factory and the now defunct optical manufacturer and all the rest of them will be happy to know their new fast food jobs have helped the economy so much.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
41. Outsourcing = Indentured Servitude and Loss of STEM Jobs , Promotes Age Discrimination
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:40 AM
Mar 2016

SHAMEFUL and DISGUSTING !!!

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
42. That's a Trump campaign commercial that writes itself. Jesus fucking Christ.
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:47 AM
Mar 2016

Why doesn't she just rub some salt in the wounds a bit more.

Bread and Circus

(9,454 posts)
43. Hillary acts like she is on an inside joke where those who don't agree with her are just too stupid
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:49 AM
Mar 2016

get the genius of "outsourcing jobs".

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. It could benefit Americans
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

One thing where is a business that could not pay labor costs can exist at this end - say you design something, like a line of dishes or the like. But you can't afford a factory in the US. You can afford Chinese/Indian labor. Therefore that business exists here in the US and eventually employs people where it would not otherwise.

I recall being in Australia and they were very wise there - the labels did not just say "Made in China" like ours do, but "Designed in Australia/Made in China"

All in all this issue is not so black and white and cut and dried as job for job.

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