UPDATED!! Sanders is making one hell of a stand in Michigan.

[Barack_America]

Last edited Sat Mar 5, 2016, 09:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Two rallies in Michigan today; an early one in Traverse City, MI, and one just about to start at Grand Valley State in the Grand Rapids media market.

He's also scheduled a rally tomorrow in Macomb County, MI.

He'll be back Monday for the FoxNews town hall in Detroit.

All brilliant moves to pick off independents and disgruntled Republicans in our open primary on Tuesday.

He's poised to do well in tomorrow's caucuses, and a follow-up victory in Michigan would completely change this race.

We haven't had a decent poll in this state in a month, so who knows?!

Exciting weekend for the Mitten State.

UPDATE:

3 more MI rallies scheduled for MONDAY:

A Future to Believe In Kalamazoo Rally
Wings Event Center — Doors open at 7:30am

A Future to Believe In Dearborn Rally
Michael A. Guido Theater — Doors open at 12:00pm

GOTV Rally and Concert in Ann Arbor
Crisler Center at U. of M. — Doors open at 4:00pm

It seems the Sanders campaign is "all in" on MI. I hope we can deliver!!

[tularetom]

1. He mustn't forget to remind voters that the trees are all the right height

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Hmm no decent poll in a month

ok my ears perked up at THAT little piece of data

[Barack_America]

6. Only one in March is 100% landline, 86% 50 and older.

A real slice of America.

Had a pollster call yesterday, but my husband said I wasn't home. So pissed! But at least I know there's another one brewing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Fascinating

I refuse to answer them, and they are mostly for local issues.

We are local media, so I do not feel it is ethical for me to do such.

[amborin]

3. off topic, but where are the transcripts? Hillary says she's the "most transparent public official"

Clinton: I’m the ‘most transparent public official in modern times’
Mark Hensch - 03/04/16 06:02 PM EST
Clinton: I’m the ‘most transparent public official in modern times’

"This is not something people should be worried about," she added.

from The Hill

[Qutzupalotl]

5. Oh, she's transparent all right. We can see right through her.

[localroger]

16. OH SNAP! /nt

[Uncle Joe]

27. You got that right, Qutzupalotl.

[kath]

32. Boom!

[thereismore]

13. Modern times started a second ago...

[Avalux]

17. I'm no worried about it. I want to see her fucking transcripts. What a liar. n/t

[yourpaljoey]

26. The transcripts WILL NOT GO AWAY :)

me want

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. If Sanders wins Michigan it's definitely a new race

True story.

[Barack_America]

11. He's here for a reason...

...either to bern out in a blaze of glory, or because the campaign sees an opportunity.

Given what I'm hearing casually talking to people here about the primary, I think it could be the latter.

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. Like I said, he wins its new ballgame and I'll stick by that

[Barack_America]

44. So...new ballgame?

Very curious to hear your thoughts.

[alcibiades_mystery]

45. Absolutely

I still think Clinton will win, but it's going to be a long contest now. I think Sanders may win Ohio and Wisconsin (I thought Wisconsin already). I don't think he has enough to win Illinois, Florida, New York, or California.

It was a very impressive showing.

Congrats.

[Barack_America]

46. Well, of course...

I'm hoping Sanders still has a path to the nomination, but...

I truly think he has a chance in any state with an open primary. Independents clearly were the deciding factor in MI.

If he can continue to build momentum in some of those contests, then states like CA, NY and PA start to become interesting, IMO.

[alcibiades_mystery]

47. Good luck!

Both great candidates, in my opinion.

[Cheese Sandwich]

8. There are a few recent polls that show us getting our asses kicked

FOX 2 Detroit/Mitchell 3/1 - 3/1 427 LV 4.7 61 33 Clinton +28
MRG 2/22 - 2/27 218 LV -- 56 36 Clinton +20
ARG 2/19 - 2/20 400 LV 5.0 53 40 Clinton +13
PPP (D)* 2/14 - 2/16 500 LV 4.4 50 40 Clinton +10

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_democratic_presidential_primary-5224.html

If we can narrow this margin at all it would be good.

[Barack_America]

10. The FOX 2 poll is junk. 100% landline, among other faults.

Just generally not up to current polling standards.

[thereismore]

14. Thank dog.

[Chichiri]

20. It has a "C" rating at FiveThirtyEight.

So not the best pollster, or even close to the best, but good enough to be considered provided it's weighed appropriately.

[kath]

33. Question - where can one find the letter ratings for polls (such as this "C" one) at 538? I spent a

fair amount of time looking for this a week or two back, with no success.

[Chichiri]

35. Right here

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/pollster-ratings/

[kath]

37. thanks much!

Previously, I found my way to their "pollsters ratings" section, but couldn't find a chart or anything else with the letter grades.

[kath]

34. Don't forget - the last poll to come out before the OK primary showed HRC up by 9. Bernie ended up

winning by 10.5%!

[Le Taz Hot]

39. I'm hoping independents and crossover voters

will close the gap.

[Barack_America]

43. They will undoubtedly. We will just have to see how much.

BTW, I just updated the thread with the 3 new MI rallies added for Monday.

Bernie's all in on MI.

[UglyGreed]

9. Kick

[silverweb]

15. Go, Bernie!

[font color="purple"]Feelin' The Bern!

[Arizona Roadrunner]

18. Clinton's support for India's companies sending "workers" to the US vs. potential support for Gold-m

Bernie has pointed out Clinton's statements of support for the companies in India bringing contract H-1b employees to the USA and Michigan. He also should say this is why we need to see what she told Goldman-Sachs for the $675,000. How much support did she give them?

By the way, when is she going to have a legitimate press conference where reporters can challenge her "weasel" worded statements?

[AzDar]

19. Go, Bernie GO!!

[Chichiri]

21. Latest projection: Clinton 64.0, Sanders 33.3.

Per 538: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/michigan-democratic/

[Barack_America]

22. With a bad poll, all you can do is compare it against itself...

...and that shows the race was already tightening, before the ad buys, rallies, etc.

[Chichiri]

25. That's not a poll, it's a projection.

It's based on all recent polls, weighted for reliability and recency and corrected for known bias, and other factors such as national polling and endorsements. If you look at the projections and polling averages, they show that the race did tighten somewhat up until February 15 or so -- at its tightest, Hillary had only a 95% chance of winning the state. Her lead has increased since then, and she now has a greater than 99% chance of winning.

[navarth]

23. It'll be interesting to see what he can do in Macomb County.

It's pretty blue collar over there.

[Barack_America]

29. Birthplace of the Reagan Democrat.

Not big fans of free trade, or the Clintons.

[monicaangela]

28. He's in De Vos family territory

I don't believe Bernie will do much good on that side of the state. The other either. The DeVos family are like the Koch brothers when it comes to Michigan, they won't want Bernie to win.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/devos-michigan-labor-politics-gop

[dreamnightwind]

30. Good for him, but I wouldn't get my hopes up too much

He will do well in other states, Hillary loosks pretty strong in Michigan. I don't know enough about the state to know why. I would love to be wrong but I think she'll win by quite a bit.

Anyway great that Bernie is taking the fight to Michigan in a big way.

We focus too much on winning and losing states. That's relevant in winner-take-all situations, but in proportionately allocated primaries it's just about how many delegates one candidate gets verses another, and about bragging rights that you "won" a state's primary. Overblown. Hopefully the margin in Michigan isn't too bad for Bernie.

[Kentonio]

31. Winning states still carries huge momentum value.

If he'd lost all the states on Super Tuesday but come away with the same delegates he has now, his campaign would be over basically. If he starts winning most states from here on out, things could change quickly.

[Robbins]

36. He won't win it

majority of blacks in michigan will vote clinton no matter what.he may be able to make it closer than some polls suggested but
that is it.

[Barack_America]

41. We have an open primary.

So you have to factor in independents who would like a say.

[firebrand80]

38. We'll get him a participation ribbon nt

[Barack_America]

42. Kicked and UPDATED.