Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:20 AM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders Camp DEFENDS 'Excuse Me, I'm Talking Moment After Hillary Clinton's RUDE Interruption

Hillary's slime-weasel David Brock earning his keep by jumping on Bernie's words to smear & distort his response........



During a discussion on the auto industry, Clinton started to interject while Sanders was speaking.

"Excuse me, I'm talking," Sanders told Clinton. "I will tell my story and you tell yours."


Sanders' comment was characterized as "cringe worthy" by Clinton allies following the debate. The president of Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton group, issued a statement criticizing Sanders.

"But perhaps nothing from this debate will be more memorable than Bernie Sanders rudely flying off the handle – losing his temper and shushing Secretary Clinton, wagging his finger and repeatedly yelling the likes of 'excuse me, I'm talking' and 'let me finish.'" Correct the Record President Brad Woodhouse said in a statement. "It was a cringe worthy moment from Senator Sanders more fitting of the GOP debate stage than the Democratic one."


Monica Alba ✔?@AlbaMonica

Words Clinton aides are using in spin room to describe Sanders' tone tonight: "desperate" & "disrespectful" #DemDebate

10:34 PM - 6 Mar 2016


Bougie Black Girl ?@BougieBlackGurl

Clinton has to stop being rude and interrupting. If Sanders interrupted her, y'all would be calling him sexist. #DemDebate

8:59 PM - 6 Mar 2016



cont'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-excuse-me
217 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Bernie Sanders Camp DEFENDS 'Excuse Me, I'm Talking Moment After Hillary Clinton's RUDE Interruption (Original Post) Segami Mar 2016 OP
it's been a long time since someone stuck their finger in my face. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #1
LOL!...she should apply some manners....RUDE is an understatement! Segami Mar 2016 #2
'Me-Me-Me-Hillary' didn't even yield to Anderson Cooper's numerous attempts Segami Mar 2016 #9
I saw the debate. Hillary talked whenever and for as long as she ladjf Mar 2016 #22
Absolutely! marew Mar 2016 #24
If I had been the one to debate her, I couldn't have handled it well at all. ladjf Mar 2016 #27
There are several reasons I don't run for office. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #170
She has done this in most, if not all of the "debates", and it's disgusting. She takes up way more kath Mar 2016 #140
I don't think she is a very nice person. earthside Mar 2016 #160
If they actually gave a shit about misogyny, they wouldn't support a campaign run by Marr Mar 2016 #196
That's it. nt zentrum Mar 2016 #142
She was offended because he didn't immediately come to heel. Bubzer Mar 2016 #108
My daughter just told me bvf Mar 2016 #56
he never stuck a finger "in her face" Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #3
bull stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #6
that is more a feature of how close the podiums were to each other... Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #8
He would not like waging his finger at me........ stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #13
Grow up... Dawgs Mar 2016 #21
ok stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #23
What would you do? tazkcmo Mar 2016 #29
Put him in an 'Iron Maiden'....LOL! Segami Mar 2016 #37
omg, can you imagine the reaction if a Bernie supporter said something like this about Hillary? liberalnarb Mar 2016 #46
Okay, I will RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #154
+1 Go Vols Mar 2016 #184
I would definitely agree with parrot. PyaarRevolution Mar 2016 #185
What would i do? stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #39
You already did. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #42
nice a personal attack. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #45
lol tazkcmo Mar 2016 #48
God, it's really all they have, all they do pdsimdars Mar 2016 #73
And when called out tazkcmo Mar 2016 #82
a personal attack is if I claim you did something you didn't. Javaman Mar 2016 #124
LOL. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #134
Nice. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #44
Right on the debate floor? Reter Mar 2016 #77
I would rather have Respect than votes.... stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #84
Wish your candidate felt the same. mac56 Mar 2016 #100
so you think beedle Mar 2016 #103
You'de be granted neither. Bubzer Mar 2016 #105
granted ? stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #107
Your demand would be irrelevant. Respect is given, not taken. Bubzer Mar 2016 #109
you would have no choice in the matter. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #112
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Hear Ye, Hear Ye! stonecutter357 has assumed the throne! Bubzer Mar 2016 #114
I think having principles is more important because that is who I vote for.............. turbinetree Mar 2016 #159
Are you a 1%'er? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #169
Would you pull it and see if he lets out a toot? snooper2 Mar 2016 #54
Ooh no JackInGreen Mar 2016 #88
What would you do tough guy? panader0 Mar 2016 #179
So dishonest and sexist - making her a victim. Typical, though. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #10
how so polly? stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #11
How do you THINK?? polly7 Mar 2016 #14
. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #15
What's funny? Lying about sexism? polly7 Mar 2016 #17
Tragically, thats the real victim here. Segami Mar 2016 #18
" this posts has been hidden by a DU Jury" DanTex. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #20
Posting that in the middle of an actual discussion is like taking a big crap on the subject matter. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #59
ok stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #70
Then why am I still here, am I hidden too? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #78
srs redruddyred Mar 2016 #83
Yes. This brazen campaign ploy cheapens concerns about ACTUAL sexism RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #115
No reply? tazkcmo Mar 2016 #34
And all you get is tazkcmo Mar 2016 #38
I watched the debate. This two dimensional photograph distorts the actual ladjf Mar 2016 #30
And Clinton could have said, lets switch podiums, if she felt threatened. I do not buy that Clinton DhhD Mar 2016 #71
Looks like he's pointing more towards the audience than at Hillary, but don't let that A Simple Game Mar 2016 #90
? stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #93
Bullshit. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #94
no i am not. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #95
Okay. I believe you. jhart3333 Mar 2016 #97
Er.. NHprogressive Mar 2016 #101
LOL! Good one, NHprogressive. nt Duval Mar 2016 #135
Is it not long past time to acknowledge Bernie is not misogynist? NHprogressive Mar 2016 #147
Welcome to DU! panader0 Mar 2016 #181
Bullshit indeed. Here you go, have some finger wag and a great response to her nasty interruptions Autumn Mar 2016 #123
I did not give this woman permission to talk over me. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #129
Waaahhhhh Waaaahhhhh MaynardGeeKrebs Mar 2016 #132
much ado about nothing. he's pointing ahead of her; his finger is a good 2 feet away from her face magical thyme Mar 2016 #133
Make him stop yelling and pointing at me! Fawke Em Mar 2016 #187
You candidate was behaving boorishly, cutting off her opponent. You can admit it. Marr Mar 2016 #197
There were a few times fun n serious Mar 2016 #64
SO, your contention is that Bettie Mar 2016 #19
Clearly he must be brought to heel.... Bubzer Mar 2016 #116
Duzy! peacebird Mar 2016 #199
Nice Hillary blinders you have one Perogie Mar 2016 #36
She a strong woman. Bernie's nothing after 11 hours before the RW congressional hearings. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #143
Oh please. blackspade Mar 2016 #155
And Hillary is NOT left-handed Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #182
She should step up and tell her supporters to stop this crap! nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #192
If it hasn't happened to you, maybe it's because noamnety Mar 2016 #175
For Black Lives Matter representatives, it was fairly recently: arcane1 Mar 2016 #201
It's the condescending tone, stupid! noiretextatique Mar 2016 #208
No one stuck a finger in her face. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #216
I looked and saw just even more posts supporting Bernie vintx Mar 2016 #4
I know people love to make a big deal out of these optics incidents Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #5
this is all strategy from David Brock, Joel Benenson and the rest GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #16
hillary's best friends. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #62
I'm glad that Bugs is for Bernie. snort Mar 2016 #85
They seem very passionate for two non-voting animals in a Red state. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #87
Oh, THIS!! 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #161
Daffy could probably get some help with that lisp under Universal Healthcare. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #188
Deflection is a good strategy to avoid substance noiretextatique Mar 2016 #210
What is sad Gwhittey Mar 2016 #7
Thank you...nt freebrew Mar 2016 #102
I'm glad he's not allowing her to run over his speaking. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #12
From another boomer woman- marew Mar 2016 #28
I have never tolerated rudeness. Bernie doesn't either. Autumn Mar 2016 #25
Clinton claims to be a strong woman who can get the 3 am wake up call Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #26
The 3 am call will probably be from Wall Street tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #31
LOL for your last line. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #106
LOL!@or to bail Bill out. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #150
"The Tokyo market is crashing...get on the red telephone to our Oval Office branch!" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #171
She didn't say anything. WE did. fun n serious Mar 2016 #57
dude STOP IT redruddyred Mar 2016 #92
Then you are a rude person and a supporter of bullies... Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #96
Oh dear gods. Really? Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #98
Maybe you can get Hillary beedle Mar 2016 #111
I did not use the term sexist.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #120
I see ... beedle Mar 2016 #126
It was the way he did it.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #138
No, women across the globe are disgusted with Hillary farleftlib Mar 2016 #137
+1 dana_b Mar 2016 #165
As aWoman I was Offended by her constant interrupting. My mother also Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #183
and a lot of women were offended by her interruptions noiretextatique Mar 2016 #211
I was just thinking that last night... Mother Of Four Mar 2016 #127
It is tiresome noiretextatique Mar 2016 #209
Ignore works pretty good. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #32
Non sequiturs and emoticons, as usual. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #61
I assume her rudeness was scripted, to provoke a reaction fbc Mar 2016 #33
That was my first thought..... Segami Mar 2016 #47
probably ... beedle Mar 2016 #122
Certainly wouldn't put it past her. Bet you nailed it. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #158
Given Hillary's complete lack of spontaneity, scripts are all she's got to go on. closeupready Mar 2016 #193
In past debates Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #35
He said, "Excuse me," not "STFU, Bitch." intheflow Mar 2016 #40
+1 n/t LittleGirl Mar 2016 #49
Which would likely have been pretty close to my response! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #172
What was Bernie to do? Geronimoe Mar 2016 #41
But of course nxylas Mar 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #121
Simply running against her in the primary is sexist to some Hillary supporters. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #43
me either! eom LittleGirl Mar 2016 #50
Shame the actual issues take a backseat to this kind of nonsense EndElectoral Mar 2016 #51
This is Clinton Theater at it's best! Segami Mar 2016 #53
their best? Naw. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #66
Clinton is a master of disingenuous deflection Armstead Mar 2016 #52
Yep. She's always accusing others of what she herself has done. Jarqui Mar 2016 #58
She's continually spoke over moderators and other candidates and is now playing the victim EndElectoral Mar 2016 #60
A non-issue IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #55
It should be a non-issue, but the Clinton Campaign has made it an "issue" Armstead Mar 2016 #65
He interrupted her a lot more than she interrupted him, AND he even interrupted.... George II Mar 2016 #67
Sanders is a condescending motherfucker bigdarryl Mar 2016 #68
And Clinton isn't? Armstead Mar 2016 #74
She's not the one who said EXCUSE ME I'M TALKING!!! bigdarryl Mar 2016 #75
Sanders had the polite response, Clinton was obnoxious demwing Mar 2016 #79
She's the one who kept interrupting and trying to talk over him and cut him off. Armstead Mar 2016 #80
Man is your mind off -- pdsimdars Mar 2016 #89
Joe Madison:Raising and flapping your hands in the air doesn't look Presidential bigdarryl Mar 2016 #164
... Fawke Em Mar 2016 #186
Dear Joe, yes it does. it looks fine. just fine. signed, the rest of the world. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #190
You and your tough guy buddy upthread should get together. panader0 Mar 2016 #194
that's because ... wait for it ... beedle Mar 2016 #117
Thank you MissDeeds Mar 2016 #191
No, she's the one who kept interrupting, like a mannerless, poorly-raised child. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #168
She was interrupting him noiretextatique Mar 2016 #207
no.. she was to busy interrupting him noiretextatique Mar 2016 #212
She's the one who can't 840high Mar 2016 #215
That term is best suited for Hillary! Segami Mar 2016 #91
Wow. What gutter language you use. closeupready Mar 2016 #162
It was more than obvious her constant interrupting and continuing polly7 Mar 2016 #163
Utterly shameful that a jury left this shitty, inane comment. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #166
How you do that? RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth Mar 2016 #189
This message was self-deleted by its author Pryderi Mar 2016 #200
When you are rude, man or woman, you should be called on it pdsimdars Mar 2016 #69
This reminds me of when my daughter was a little girl and would play games with her daddy. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #76
Judging from what I have seen Old Codger Mar 2016 #81
How DARE the commoner attempt to speak while the queen is interrupting! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #86
What a disingenuous criticism ejbr Mar 2016 #99
She just keeps talking to run out the clock... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #104
The longer the smears go on, the more support Hillary will lose. Avalux Mar 2016 #110
I hate bullies & I can't stand HRC. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #113
Agreed. Hillary is very much a bully. Bubzer Mar 2016 #119
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #118
What a steaming pile. cyberswede Mar 2016 #131
Wow. Just wow. concreteblue Mar 2016 #136
I'm a woman Bettie Mar 2016 #167
wow... you don't want equality dana_b Mar 2016 #174
My comment is that Sanders and Clinton are talking, yelling and discussing the issue that rladdi Mar 2016 #125
If Hillary Clinton and company can't take criticism now... Harriety Mar 2016 #128
HE was rude? Duval Mar 2016 #130
Not sexism guys. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #139
Don't you know? zentrum Mar 2016 #141
Ugh...Brock of Corrupt the Record tries to spew some more vomit for Hill. SoapBox Mar 2016 #144
And a perfect Tweet to sum it up... SoapBox Mar 2016 #145
Of course Hillary was rude.. but all I could think of all debate was this... basselope Mar 2016 #146
I cringed just because I knew the made up bullshit would spew... blackspade Mar 2016 #148
Bernie respectful, but with limits jwmiller Mar 2016 #149
What's to defend? She was interrupting and being rude. Vinca Mar 2016 #151
And if the roles were reversed? alcina Mar 2016 #152
That cinches it, she lost the debate on substance nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #153
Poor, poor, Hillary. Tsk. Tsk. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #156
To me interrupting like that is a sign of entitlement. That she jwirr Mar 2016 #157
I never did care for interrupters, whether it's Hillary, Bill O'Reilly or Chris Matthews, Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #173
The fact that the Hillary camp is hitting so hard on this "finger wagging" talking point Maedhros Mar 2016 #177
^^THIS^^ dana_b Mar 2016 #178
It's their consistent repetition of phony 'outrages' like this that has made so many people Marr Mar 2016 #198
Exactly this n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #203
deflection eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #213
Scratching my head over this one. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #180
Many people engaged in political sparring cheat at the game, closeupready Mar 2016 #195
much ado about nothing, but serves a purpose noiretextatique Mar 2016 #214
he has so much class 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #202
I'll just leave this here. Mufaddal Mar 2016 #204
#ExcuseMeHillary. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #205
Misrepresentation hurts the cause felix_numinous Mar 2016 #206
She's using the Republican tactics of talking over her opponent pacalo Mar 2016 #217

stonecutter357

(12,698 posts)
1. it's been a long time since someone stuck their finger in my face.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:25 AM
Mar 2016

She has more strength and courage than i do.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
9. 'Me-Me-Me-Hillary' didn't even yield to Anderson Cooper's numerous attempts
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

trying to stop her from hogging up speaking time.....her spectacle was despicable to say the least

Check the videos......Anderson is heard over and over, non-stop trying to get control of her long-winded, bloated speeches.


It's all about her..........Me, Me, Me, Me,....I,...I,...I,...Me, Me, Me,.......

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
22. I saw the debate. Hillary talked whenever and for as long as she
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:49 AM
Mar 2016

wanted. She totally disregarded Anderson's warnings that she had run out of time.

Instead of answering Anderson's questions, she often stuck in a little "coda" after Bernie had made his
rebuttal.

The problem for Bernie is that he doesn't have the "yard dog" personality that Hillary has. The event wasn't actually a debate in the academic sense, it was a "pissing" contest, fighting for the admiration of the audience both present and watching online.

marew

(1,588 posts)
24. Absolutely!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:56 AM
Mar 2016

No matter how many times Anderson Cooper tried to stop Hillary, she went on and on and on!

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
27. If I had been the one to debate her, I couldn't have handled it well at all.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

It was obvious that the debate wasn't actually about truth, it's was about skillful distortions designed to gain immediate approval without the necessity of verification. Bernie is a quick thinker, but, he is limited by a feeling that his answers must be the truth. That's why he repeated said "My understanding of the question is......". He was avoiding the arrogant position of "My statement are immutable and not subject to question by anyone." She most definitely spook as though everything she said was ready to be carved in stone.


 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
170. There are several reasons I don't run for office.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:07 PM
Mar 2016

The way I deal with graceless assholes who keep interrupting me is one of them. Bernie was damn near Mister Rogers in comparison to how I'd have gone off on her.

Of course...I'm also female, and smaller than she is. Way better optics...

kath

(10,565 posts)
140. She has done this in most, if not all of the "debates", and it's disgusting. She takes up way more
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

her allotted time. Bernie has generally stood by and let her do it, no doubt knowing that he would be called "sexist" and "overly aggressive" if he tried to make her follow the actual freakin' RULES.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
160. I don't think she is a very nice person.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary strikes me as someone who has come to expect differential treatment as if she is entitled to it.

I've read accounts that she is an absolute terror to work for.


Of course, the Hillarians will glom onto just about any real or perceived slight to proclaim "sexism" and victim status ... nothing appears to make them happier.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
196. If they actually gave a shit about misogyny, they wouldn't support a campaign run by
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:38 PM
Mar 2016

David "Anita Hill is a slut" Brock.

They've proved over and over that they have only one principle: win. All the rest is just bullshit, and they'll happily say so when they no longer need the people they've fooled.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
8. that is more a feature of how close the podiums were to each other...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

he didn't leave his spot.

Yes, he likes to wag his finger. It's annoying even for me as a supporter, but it's the least of our worries.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
154. Okay, I will
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

Hellery needs a muzzle. All she does is parrot Bernie's points, and tells her mindless, willing shill slaves to keep attacking Bernie.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
185. I would definitely agree with parrot.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

In terms of most of what she says. One of her deliveries was so rehearsed that it felt artificial, forget polished. Some of her comments FEEL fake, at least delivered by her. You can tell she's TRYING to be sincere and that's the problem.
I'll be blunt, I don't think she gives one whit about me. I'll vote for her if she gets the nom. for the GE but I will hold her feet to the fire for her plans with college(debt-free isn't good enough) as well as Medicare(if you have an illness like Hep C. and late Lyme that can be cured Obamacare should cover it and not make you pay a ridiculous deductible for care).

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
73. God, it's really all they have, all they do
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

It's not about fact or truth or honestly, it's all about impression and attitude -- vapid, empty nonsense.
And look at that smug picture . . . perfect match

tazkcmo

(7,304 posts)
82. And when called out
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

They scream, "Personal attack!", "RW smear!", "Sexism!" or just leave. Empty suits.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
124. a personal attack is if I claim you did something you didn't.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

you posted something and was responded to, that is not a personal attack, that is pointing out a fact.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
103. so you think
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

rudely interrupting someone, then losing it when they tell you that you interrupted them, will some how give you 'respect'?

In what fantasy world does this happen? Oh, right, the world where taking hundreds of millions in donations and payments from lobbyists and special interests will not affect political decisions .. that one.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
114. BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!! Hear Ye, Hear Ye! stonecutter357 has assumed the throne!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:23 AM
Mar 2016

Your voice no longer matters...and neither does your vote! Only stonecutter357 matters...per edict of stonecutter357!

turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
159. I think having principles is more important because that is who I vote for..............
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

and just for giggles lets take a look .........................at her principles on "trade deals" ----------------------and see if she deserves Union / worker respect..........................


https://shadowproof.com/2016/03/04/clintons-unveiled-plans-workers-trade-conflict-record/


Honk----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

polly7

(20,582 posts)
14. How do you THINK??
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:40 AM
Mar 2016

Just because she's a 'woman' doesn't mean she can get away with continually interrupting and taking someone else's time to speak.

It's simple.

Most women have seen and dealt with plenty of REAL sexism in their lives - this is not it, it's just pathetic, desperate - but typical - bullshit.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
17. What's funny? Lying about sexism?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:44 AM
Mar 2016

I don't think so. Real sexism can be very, very harmful. That you make a joke of it just shows who really is using something that actually kills many women.

Look in a mirror.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
83. srs
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:51 AM
Mar 2016

workers' rights are women's rights. raising the minimum wage is overwhelmingly a women's issue (although I guess minorities can lay claim as well).
i'm so pissed that letting mr sanders finish his effing sentence is considered "sexist". hillary hates me. she will not protect my social security and will not fight for me to get a decent paying job. what has she ever done to fight for the rights of women. her husband is a freaking sexual harrasser and all accounts point to the fact that she helped cover up his worst behavior. this primary is female class warfare: get behind our corporatist candidate, because women. lol no!

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
115. Yes. This brazen campaign ploy cheapens concerns about ACTUAL sexism
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

The Clinton camp isn't shy about using any tactic, no matter how selfish, despicable, and damaging.

Thanks for posting, polly7!

tazkcmo

(7,304 posts)
34. No reply?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

It's O.K. for her to interrupt? She's allowed to that because why? Because she's a woman? Why is that not rude?

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
30. I watched the debate. This two dimensional photograph distorts the actual
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

angles of Bernie's right hand. The effort by stonecutter357 to distort reality is typical
"Clinton Company" tactics #1.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
71. And Clinton could have said, lets switch podiums, if she felt threatened. I do not buy that Clinton
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

would allow herself to be anybody's victim.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
90. Looks like he's pointing more towards the audience than at Hillary, but don't let that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

stop your irrational rant about anything but the issues.

Was it you that added the cute little slam that Bernie obviously didn't say?

jhart3333

(332 posts)
94. Bullshit.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

He's not pointing at her. You are using the angle of the camera to push your talking point. Pathetic.

NHprogressive

(56 posts)
147. Is it not long past time to acknowledge Bernie is not misogynist?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

It exactly as transparent as people on the right calling Hillary Clinton a man-hater, and just as idiotic. We're supposed to be better than this on our side.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
123. Bullshit indeed. Here you go, have some finger wag and a great response to her nasty interruptions
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016


Awesome video, do be sure to watch it. Obama at his best and Hillary as usual.

Gary 50

(382 posts)
129. I did not give this woman permission to talk over me.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

The blatant dishonesty of watching Clinton repeatedly disrespect both the moderator and her opponent and then to try to play the sexist card against Bernie for not graciously accepting her interruptions is breathtaking. The mental gymnastics necessary to watch that debate and then claim Bernie is disrespectful to HER is mind boggling. By the way, there are also pictures of her waving her finger in his face but the Hillarians must have missed it. Not surprising.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
133. much ado about nothing. he's pointing ahead of her; his finger is a good 2 feet away from her face
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

Unlike these *real* examples of "in your face"









 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
197. You candidate was behaving boorishly, cutting off her opponent. You can admit it.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

I realize he feelings me be very easily bruised after so many years of coddling-- I mean, she's been allowed to use such bullying, assholish behavior up to this point and nobody *gasp* pointed at her and said as much, but with some cookies and coffee, and I expect she'll get over it.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
64. There were a few times
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

He came very close to her face with his finger. If you recorded the debate you should watch it again and you will see.

Bettie

(16,139 posts)
19. SO, your contention is that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:47 AM
Mar 2016

she should be allowed to interrupt and he should meekly shut up and wait for her to decide when he should be allowed to finish (which would be never, because she doesn't like to hear anyone's voice but her own).

He should just stand silent while she takes her time and his time?

Not surprising.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
155. Oh please.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

He is right handed and he always makes those gestures.
That CNN put him on the other side of Clinton and so close together is the only thing that gives that appearance.
The fact that you and others Clinton surrogates are making this an issue is telling.
You're having to latch onto anything that could cause offense rather than the substance of the debate itself.
You all are crowing about her big debate win, so why are you focusing on bullshit stylistic issues?

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
182. And Hillary is NOT left-handed
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

so in the picture above, she actually IS pointing at him and not just gesturing.

This is the most ridiculous non-issue I think I've seen thus far. She was rude and her people should just accept the fact that she got called on it.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
208. It's the condescending tone, stupid!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:52 PM
Mar 2016

My family members on Facebook are Clinton supporters, but they did not like her attitude with the last BLM activist...the one she told to run for office.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
216. No one stuck a finger in her face.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016

You're watching it on TV and deciding it looks that way because it's a point of convenience. The importance of this is probably less than that of Trump's hand size.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
5. I know people love to make a big deal out of these optics incidents
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:30 AM
Mar 2016

but I think the substance of the deabte is quite a bit more important

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
16. this is all strategy from David Brock, Joel Benenson and the rest
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

when they work in a phrase like "more fitting of the GOP debate stage than the Democratic one" it is no accident. They are running a brand campaign, a bandwagon campaign that is all about demanding party loyalty or gender loyalty and identity politics, instead of policy, her record or her vision.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
161. Oh, THIS!!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:28 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you! Made me laugh for the 1st time this am!! Add the gif. I don't have it.



Me. 7wo7rees

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
7. What is sad
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:34 AM
Mar 2016

For anyone to be fucking talking about this shit as it was major issue of debate. I don't care if Sanders jumped up and took a big crap on Clinton's podium, the media should be talking about the fucking issue of Flint. God dam GOP circus has made media even worse than it was they so want conflict even one that is so removed from talking about the size of your dick as this "excuse, me" comment is.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
12. I'm glad he's not allowing her to run over his speaking.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

Just who the fuck does she think she is? I'm a boomer woman myself, and I'm tired of her antics.

There's zero reason to care what her mouthpieces think. That just tells me my impression was right, that Sanders was very effective in stopping her.

He was civil, that's all he needs to be.

And that finger bs is lame. He's tall, and appears to be right-handed. If it bothers her so much, she should make sure she's on the other side of him. I'm sure she could've arranged that if she'd wanted to.

Complaining about trivia is not a good tactic for her. If she can't deal with Sanders, she'd be road-kill with Trump (which I believe is in fact the case).

marew

(1,588 posts)
28. From another boomer woman-
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

You are exactly right. Since Hillary's stands on so many issues are wrong or she just changed them because the direction of the wind changed, she has to come up with some meaningless controversy! Really sad!
Her Wall Street positions are indefensible!

Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)
26. Clinton claims to be a strong woman who can get the 3 am wake up call
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:00 AM
Mar 2016

But when she is rude and tries to interrupt someone who waited patiently to speak, and they say "excuse me I'm talking " SHE" is the wounded one? I find victimization very sad in a woman but even more in a Presidential candidate.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
57. She didn't say anything. WE did.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:26 AM
Mar 2016

Women across the globe were offended. I was offended.. and brought it up before any media talking points did. The SOS handled it well.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
92. dude STOP IT
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:59 AM
Mar 2016

it's embarrassing. if you want to get in high dudgeon about sexism please take some action on the 23049832094830928034983092 domestic violence cases that cops are not prosecuting, because they're a bunch of fucking bros(original, correct definition).

the thing is, i don't think upper middle class women care. i called a local hotline a few months ago "um my crazy family is stalking me". "why dyou think that? are they coming into your home?"

they posted an ad for a secretary recently, duties include data entry and light social media work for a single digit wage, requires a BA.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
96. Then you are a rude person and a supporter of bullies...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

Justifying Hillary's behavior by calling it sexist is utterly disgusting. She was trying to be a bully. She was in a situation where there are rules and she tried to rudely bully through those rules.

If people are upset that she was politely asked to stop behaving badly, then there is something gravely wrong with the values and integrity of those people.

Using this as a cry of sexism is absolutely disgusting and not only insults the movement for women's rights, but condones behavior that should not be tolerated from a man...a woman...a democrat or a republican. You feeling insulted says more about you as a person than it says about Senator Sanders.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
98. Oh dear gods. Really?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

If she hadn't been rudely interrupting him, she wouldn't have had to been told. Don't like it? Don't cause it.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
111. Maybe you can get Hillary
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

to write up some policy paper on it so that it can become an actual election issue?

The gall of some people. You actually believe that it's sexist to call someone out for being rude because they happen to be a woman?

Would it be sexist if another woman to Hillary the same thing for the same reason?

Would it be sexist if Bernie told another man the same thing for the same reason?

What exactly makes this 'sexist'? Simply because a man said it to a woman?

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
120. I did not use the term sexist..
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

I thought his overall mannerisms were rude had he been debating a man or a woman. That was my opinion and many others as well or it would not have made news...

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
126. I see ...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

... so you actually think it is rude to call someone out for being rude, while they are being rude to you?

I could certainly see how being rude to someone who was being rude, but non-sexist, would "offend" "Women across the globe" ... any reason in particular why you singled out women for being offended? Or are you simply being sexist?

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
138. It was the way he did it..
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

Also, when she is speaking he does not quietly wait his turn. He is very animated while she is speaking. Shaking his head, wagging his finger, lifting his arms in the air. It's rude and distracting. IMO

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
137. No, women across the globe are disgusted with Hillary
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

her bullying and then claiming to be a victim. Her behavior last night was disgusting and shameful.

Nanjeanne

(5,003 posts)
183. As aWoman I was Offended by her constant interrupting. My mother also
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

a woman taught me just how rude that is.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
211. and a lot of women were offended by her interruptions
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

which is why he said excuse me i'm talking. she was rude.

Mother Of Four

(1,716 posts)
127. I was just thinking that last night...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

When I saw the first of the spinning I wished I could ask each spinner "If she can't handle a semi brusk Excuse me I'm talking for her being rude... how is she going to handle her job as president? Make up your damn minds, is she ready for the job or is she a fading flower that needs a fainting couch because of her gender?"

If she was male this wouldn't even be an issue. So much for equality.

Whats really sad is that I raised my girls to be tough. Not mean, but thick skinned. They are both netters big time, they see this kind of crap and roll their eyes. Hell one of my girls is going into the male dominated field of video game creation, three females in the entire program at the college. She even has a T that she absolutely loves that says "Woman up" on it. If my 19 year old daughter can handle the constant jabbing back and forth from tech hounds (because she is one) then why can't supposedly battle hardened Hillary handle this? From what I understood she was being portrayed as tough, vetted, never stays down etc etc.

smh this is just sad.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
32. Ignore works pretty good.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

26 replies so far, and I can see 7 of them.

I shudder to think what was in the other 20.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
47. That was my first thought.....
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

bullying tactics to provoke a response from Bernie so she could play the 'innocent victim' card.


The smear campaign headed by Hillary's BFF smear-rodent David Brock kicked into gear once they got the snip footage they were looking to exploit....


She earns her 'untrustworthy & dishonest' title well......


 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
122. probably ...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

... I'd suggest Bernie be prepared for when Hillary pulls out the 'I'm not as likable as' line ... he should be very careful not to fall into the 'you're likable enough' trap and instead be totally honest and simply admit she is 100% correct on that account.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
193. Given Hillary's complete lack of spontaneity, scripts are all she's got to go on.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:10 PM
Mar 2016

So I also think you nailed that one brilliantly.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
35. In past debates
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:08 AM
Mar 2016

Previuosly, during other debates, Bernie has let Hillary interupt and let her talk when it wasn't her turn.

This time he put a stop to that crap. That is not being sexist.

Camera angles and the position of the podiums make them seem closer than they actually were at times. Although that doesn't explain Hillary's condescending tone at times or her dirty looks at Bernie.

intheflow

(28,515 posts)
40. He said, "Excuse me," not "STFU, Bitch."
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:11 AM
Mar 2016

Normal people know the difference between defending oneself and being rude. But apparently not Clinton supporters.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
172. Which would likely have been pretty close to my response!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:11 PM
Mar 2016

But it would be like a black rapper dropping an n-bomb, right? My vagina gives me a pass!

Response to Geronimoe (Reply #41)

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
43. Simply running against her in the primary is sexist to some Hillary supporters.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

They think everything is sexist. I am female Bernie supporter and I have seen nothing sexist in his behavior.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
66. their best? Naw.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016

I shudder at the near future, as they plot some other bizarre, baseless attack.

Let's see. They attacked Obama about his religion and planted stories about Rev. Wright.
They attacked his citizenship, via proxy.
They attacked him as unelectable, too liberal, and not grounded in reality.

Get the picture?

Actually, their best (worst) was attacking him for being a paid whore for wall street, hiding his Super PAC, and being a flip-flopper on corporate regs. Hillary. ATTACKING Bernie. For Pac money. which he does not have.

Their gall is only matched by their willingness to lie through their teeth.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
52. Clinton is a master of disingenuous deflection
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

The response of the Clinton Machine (TM) and the Conventional Wisdom Brigade in the media are making a big deal out of Bernie's "ruse sexist" behavior and "finger wagging" during the debate.

Well, if one wants to compare finger wagging, I noticed her hands and fingers were up in the air quite frequently too. Was she being an arrogant sexist too?

Also, she was continually interrupting him, and trying the time-dishonored technique of cutting off and talking over an opponent. I actually commend Bernie for his restraint in those exchanges.

And, for Bernie, much of his "rude finger wagging" was actually his adhering to debate etiquette, by signalling to the moderators that he wanted a chance to respond -- unlike Clinton who simply interrupted.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
60. She's continually spoke over moderators and other candidates and is now playing the victim
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:28 AM
Mar 2016

Gimme a break. Frankly, this is dumb stuff and is my last post about this nonsense.

George II

(67,782 posts)
67. He interrupted her a lot more than she interrupted him, AND he even interrupted....
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

....Don Lemon a couple of times in the middle of his questions.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
79. Sanders had the polite response, Clinton was obnoxious
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

And calling someone a motherfucker while lecturing us about polite responses is a pathetic joke.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
89. Man is your mind off --
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

She is rude and he politely pointed it out to her. Simple as that. No woman I know thought any thing of it in context.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
117. that's because ... wait for it ...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

she was NOT the one who "WAS TALKING" ... she was the one who was INTERRUPTING.

If she had been talking in her turn and Bernie had interrupted she would have been well within her right to say
Excuse me I'm talking'.

She's also not the one who said "I don't take bribe money from lobbyists' .. again, for a good reason.

Get how that works? If you aren't doing something, you don't usually say you are ... although with Clinton there are some glaring exceptions to that rule.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
168. No, she's the one who kept interrupting, like a mannerless, poorly-raised child.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:03 PM
Mar 2016

I'd have been tempted to be one hell of a lot more forceful in my implied STFU. Betcha my numbers would climb after that, too...

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
91. That term is best suited for Hillary!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

It speaks to her persona.......Next time, write it in caps!


polly7

(20,582 posts)
163. It was more than obvious her constant interrupting and continuing
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

to talk when not her turn was a tactic she uses in every debate and did so even in 2008 with Obama. The less time she allows her opponent to score points, the better. She doesn't do well if she has to play fairly. If he hadn't called her out she'd have gone on and on forever. That's not a debate, it's just a bullying stump speech - one that she tries for every chance she gets.

The added (deliberate) benefit - she also has her advisers and supporters claim SEXISM! for it to score points with - how nasty is that? Women all over the world are raped, tortured and killed for real 'sexism'. She makes a fucking joke of it. That is what you should be so angry at.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
166. Utterly shameful that a jury left this shitty, inane comment.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

I rather doubt they'd leave the response I'd prefer to make to you here...so you'll just have to use your imagination. Such as it is...

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
176. How you do that?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

You pull words out of your posterior, while your head is shoved up it?
Not presidential to politely ask someone who rudely interrupts his statement?
No, Hellery was RUDE!

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #68)

Response to bigdarryl (Reply #68)

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
69. When you are rude, man or woman, you should be called on it
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:37 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary kept interrupting Bernie when it was his turn to talk. She could not control herself. And when you are out of control and being disrespectful, it's up to the adults to bring it to your attention. And she was rude and did not respect Bernie's time to speak. It's the same if it is a woman or a man who's being rude and disrespectful.
I don't think it does women any good to be rude like that and when you are called out on it to cry, "but I'm a woman".

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
72. This reminds me of when my daughter was a little girl and would play games with her daddy.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

When he would beat her in a game she would say, "You're supposed to let me win."

Response to Segami (Original post)

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
81. Judging from what I have seen
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

Of her campaign and what appears to be a large majority of her backers, sleeze is king... She cannot survive the truth.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,208 posts)
86. How DARE the commoner attempt to speak while the queen is interrupting!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:53 AM
Mar 2016

In my dreams, the lights visible to the speakers are hard-wired to their microphone. When they turn red ("Okay, wrap it up!&quot , they'd have five seconds to finish their current sentence -- then their microphone would shut off and STAY off until their rebuttal or next question.

I think that'd work. I also think I'd be the most hated moderator in D.C.

ejbr

(5,857 posts)
99. What a disingenuous criticism
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

of Sanders. If he said that to a man who was interrupting, no one would bat an eye, but because Clinton wants it both ways with her gender, she now should be treated DIFFERENTLY than a man. Whatever...

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
104. She just keeps talking to run out the clock...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:15 AM
Mar 2016

Did you notice early on in the debate, when they were talking about the lead in FLINT water? Then she goes above and beyond Flint's lead emergency and harkens back to the days of when she worked shoulder to shoulder, with then... Senator Barack Obama on the lead issue.

Her only problem was, because she kept talking and talking about how she was going to rid this world of lead, she forgot that the question was, what would you do as President... about the lead problem. It seemed to me, after all her bravado and ritious promises and convenient embrace of SENATOR Barack Obama... She had no choice but to paint a picture of,... now President Obama as not doing as much as She would do... or as much as... they had done, when he and her were colleagues in the senate.

It happened within the first 1/2 hr of the MI debate, go replay the tape! The question was... basically as Prez, what would you do about the lead problem. She put President Barack Obama on front street... then rolled him under the bus, painting him as a slacker on Flint and our lead issues. Keep talking Hillary, what you say, can and will be used against you in a court of law.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
110. The longer the smears go on, the more support Hillary will lose.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

If she's the nominee, she won't win. So many of us will not vote for her. Hate these disgusting GOP dirty tricks.

CrispyQ

(36,552 posts)
113. I hate bullies & I can't stand HRC.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

But I'm supposed to vote for her because she's better than the other side.

Response to Segami (Original post)

Bettie

(16,139 posts)
167. I'm a woman
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

and what you said is just a huge pile of sexist dreck.

You seem to think that whenever Clinton opens her mouth, all must sit silent, waiting to see what she says, attempting to speak (even when it is your turn by the rules) is forbidden, because we must await the words of The Queen (your words).

I was under the impression that the point of the feminist movement was not for women to come first, but for all of us to be equal. Saying women need to come FIRST in all things is sexist.

Oh, and about the Titanic, more First Class men survived than steerage women and children. In that disaster as in all things, the rich come first, no one else.

I suspect that is what Clinton's supporters are screaming about here, as a WEALTHY person, she expects to come first, never to be interrupted or contradicted, or even disagreed with.

rladdi

(581 posts)
125. My comment is that Sanders and Clinton are talking, yelling and discussing the issue that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

Americans are concerned about.
Just what are the Republicans candidates discussing, yelling about. Ah, they spent their debates on trashing each other. No issues are discussed.

Harriety

(298 posts)
128. If Hillary Clinton and company can't take criticism now...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

What the hell will she do if she gets the nomination and has to debate the Republican candidate???? They will sling a lot more mud at her than Sanders, who is a light weight when it comes to criticism. (He is a considerate gentleman just like President Obama.) She needs to toughen up if she wants to look like a real leader.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
130. HE was rude?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

Sen.Clinton interrupted several times, talking over Bernie, which came across as very rude. I just love the spin machine for her..NOT.


zentrum

(9,866 posts)
141. Don't you know?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary gets to be as rude as she pleases, but Bernie is sexist when he points out he's being cut off.

Because "It's Her Turn".

I find her unwatchable. I'm a woman for Bernie—he's the better feminist.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
144. Ugh...Brock of Corrupt the Record tries to spew some more vomit for Hill.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:08 PM
Mar 2016

Hey Brock...let's talk about your sliming of Anita Hill!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
145. And a perfect Tweet to sum it up...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

Squirmishes McPalin
Squirmishes McPalin? @McSquirmishes

I never knew I could interrupt men as much as I want and they're sexist if they tell me to stop!

My life is changed forever.

#DemDebate
Mar 7, 2016, 12:03:36 AM from Los Angeles, CA

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
146. Of course Hillary was rude.. but all I could think of all debate was this...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016


Ever time she GLARED at him for daring to speak after waving his hand to get his response time.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
148. I cringed just because I knew the made up bullshit would spew...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

from the Clinton Campaign and their M$M sock puppets.
Never mind the substance of the debate, it's the performance that counts!

jwmiller

(3 posts)
149. Bernie respectful, but with limits
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

You could see Bernie restraining himself not to talk over Hillary ... and he wanted to, badly. Hillary on the other hand could not restrain herself. I'd call her actions rude. And rudeness begs a response. And then comes the sex card? Geesh!

Vinca

(50,323 posts)
151. What's to defend? She was interrupting and being rude.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

If she thinks this is bad, she's in for a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge surprise if she's the nominee against "The Donald."

alcina

(602 posts)
152. And if the roles were reversed?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

If Sanders had been continually interrupting Clinton and she'd responded the exact same way -- "Excuse me, I'm talking. I will tell my story and you tell yours." -- their enthusiasm would have been unbridled. Her performance would be described as polite but assertive, gracious but strong, courageous, refusing to be bullied, blah blah blah.

As someone who believes in treating people of all genders as equals, I find the double standard here quite offensive.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
153. That cinches it, she lost the debate on substance
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

She did that last time as well.

Also the finger thing is a pretty good dog whistle

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
157. To me interrupting like that is a sign of entitlement. That she
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:24 PM
Mar 2016

thinks she is entitled. Rude indeed.

Uncle Joe

(58,504 posts)
173. I never did care for interrupters, whether it's Hillary, Bill O'Reilly or Chris Matthews,
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

it reflects a lack of respect and a self-consumption with "I" or "me."


Thanks for the thread, Segami.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
177. The fact that the Hillary camp is hitting so hard on this "finger wagging" talking point
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

means that they know that Sanders won on the issues, and they need to move discussion away from that fact.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
178. ^^THIS^^
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

that is EXACTLY why this non-issue has become an issue. Hillary and her camp are worried. As they should be.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
198. It's their consistent repetition of phony 'outrages' like this that has made so many people
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

just disregard what they're saying as 'anything to win' bullshit. They just have no credibility.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
180. Scratching my head over this one.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

What's wrong with him asking/telling her to stop interrupting him? Some people do indeed consider that rude. This isn't a matter of gender war, but common courtesy that has unfortunately become rather uncommon of late.

What the heck is so cringe-worthy about this? Desperate and disrespectful? "Stop interrupting me." What's wrong with that? It doesn't strike me as sexist, it doesn't strike me as bigoted, it doesn't strike me as him telling her to shut up, but rather, telling her to wait for her turn to speak - to allow him to make (or attempt to make) his point/s.

Interruptions are common enough during these debates, I suppose - but it is rude to keep interrupting a candidate who's turn it is to speak. I'm not going to make a huge deal of it, because these are the primaries... but, not seeing what Sanders did that was so terrible here.

Can someone explain to me how this is any different from what people like Chris Matthews do all the time during interviews? From discussions we see on CNN, Fox, MSNBC and elsewhere where who ever is speaking is often rudely interrupted and asks/demands that people stop interrupting them? What's so desperate and disrespectful about this? Wasn't Clinton being disrespectful by repeatedly interrupting him?

I don't get it.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
195. Many people engaged in political sparring cheat at the game,
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:30 PM
Mar 2016

some of whom have managed to turn such mischief into an art form. Just use your imagination to fill in the blanks, and you got it.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
214. much ado about nothing, but serves a purpose
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:12 PM
Mar 2016

to deflect attention from her words in the debate. faux outrage is better than trying to defend fracking.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
202. he has so much class
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

I probably would have knocked someones teeth out for all of the constant interuptions, overtalking and lies. He remains in control. What he said was not out of line.
Last week Hillers was saying how strong she is, this week, this is what they are crying about?

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
206. Misrepresentation hurts the cause
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:52 PM
Mar 2016

of misogyny or abuse--this world is bursting at the seams with REAL examples of sexism and abuse without faking it!!! I am tired of hearing these words bandied about when it has more to do with individuals trying to distract from their bad behavior or deficit in knowledge.

Hiring David Brock should negate her ever claiming to be a feminist, WTF was she thinking.



pacalo

(24,721 posts)
217. She's using the Republican tactics of talking over her opponent
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:19 PM
Mar 2016

or filibustering so that her opponent won't be able to get in a word.

It is what it is. She's the rude, ingenuous one.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Bernie Sanders Camp DEFEN...