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[jillan]

1. This is so crazy - I posted the same exact thing in the Bernie group.

It's sad. Having msnbc on in the background all day every day in my house is a hard habit to break.

[pangaia]

16. What's msnbc?

[Land of Enchantment]

37. Try Free Speech TV

Last edited Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Channel 348 on DirecTV and 9415 on DISH-- it is owned by the viewers, not the corporations AND no commercials.

[jillan]

44. I watch Hartmann and Amy on FSTV

And Bill Press when I can. He comes on a 4 am here in AZ. Too early for me.

[Land of Enchantment]

97. Ah! Me too...

I got a Bernie Bear last year during the fund raiser and hold him during while the returns are coming in...

[brewens]

93. I've been watching FSTV for awhile. Mainly because I have the rock bottom dish package.

It should be called "America's Worst 55". Other than FSTV and RT, I have FOX "News" which I have on right now.

I donated to FSTV awhile back. It's not the greatest but it might turn into something if we support it.

[Land of Enchantment]

99. I have DTV and don't get

RT. I am retired and usually just leave it on Al Jazeera for background and am going to miss them. And I donate to FSTV and hope they can bring in more news to fil the gap of AJ going out the end of April.

[Jenny_92808]

2. I feel the same way.

Right now, instead of watching MSNBC, I am watching RTTV with Thom Hartmann. Comcast channel 81 (for me).

[mntleo2]

71. Just found it and have it on ~ sweet! n/t

[whatchamacallit]

3. MSNBC is still MSM and always has been

They're were just trying to appeal to a wider demo than fox. Rachel is window dressing. Stopped watching her long ago.

[loudsue]

42. I also quit watching Rachel a long time ago She has drunk so much of the inside-the-beltway kool-aid

that she doesn't have a clue where her values are anymore. In fact, the mainstream media -- of which MSNBC is certainly one -- is so repugnant to me I can't tolerate more than about 3 minutes. I just have to change channels or turn off the tube.

[cleanhippie]

79. Agreed. Back when she was KO's protege, I loved watching her.

Now that she's a big-wig on a National network, she's become exactly who she wasn't years ago.

KO made the smartest move and left politics altogether. But he sure is missed.

[AtomicKitten]

4. I'm watching The Young Turks on YouTube.

I share your disappointment in Rachel. I was once a huge fan and it saddens me that she's not even making an effort to appear impartial.

[Kittycat]

59. We just tuned in to TYT, as well.

I gave up on msnbc.

We've been out of our cable contract since November. At this point I just need to find out where our shows are on streaming and dump it. We have Amazon and Netflix, and access to adding anything else we need through apps. Cable news certainly isn't worth it, or the 3000+ channels we never watch.

[AtomicKitten]

96. We cut the cord a little over a year ago.

Love Roku. I occasionslly livestream cable but it gets on my last nerve quickly. Democracy Now has their own channel M through F and I never miss it. We have Netflix and love it. Plus it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[CentralMass]

101. Check out SlingTv

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Welcome to the club

I have to have ONE of these on due to work... but if CNN goes down, I will have to try FOX, though I am toying with just doing it and getting the AP wire. I am that discusted. I sent MSNBC an email, after the divorce with MHP, and told then why. If they bothered to print it, I know it is at the bottom of a bird's cage.

It made me feel better

[Viva_La_Revolution]

6. i just did too

Its been 30 minuters and im actually a little impressed

[Attorney in Texas]

7. You get more unbiased discussion of Sanders on Morning Joe than from Maddow. To her credit, she does

not pretend to be unbiased, but I've gone from a nightly viewer to no longer watching her over the past months.

She'll be watchable again after the primary, I hope. Maybe it will take a Cruz administration to make her show good again.

[daleanime]

48. World's smallest silver lining.

[MrMickeysMom]

8. Congratulations, cyberpj!!!

I was leaving a bread trail for you!

Too bad Al Jazeera looses it's American network in April...

[PatrynXX]

63. was basically Current

and even with power issues during Keiths show it was still a losing battle

[ChiciB1]

9. I Turned Them OFF Months AGO! And, I Also Stated Here That

Rachel Maddow was all in for Hillary! People told me I was wrong! Don't think so!

[SheilaT]

10. I don't happen to have a TV, but I used to watch Rachel

via the internet. I've pretty much given up on her, because she covers somewhat oddball things. And then there was her infatuation with Claire McCaskill, Democratic Senator from Missouri. A year or so back she seemed to be very much encouraging McCaskill to run for President, basically praising her as a wonderful liberal. Which McCaskill is not. That's what started to turn me off Rachel, and now I happily live without her.

Too bad, because she used to be very good.

[Jarqui]

11. I already voiced my disappointment on Rachel's blog - not that it will do any good ..

When they gassed Olbermann, I cancelled MSNBC and told them so.

I've watched the odd video online (Rachel or Lawrence O'Donnell sometimes) and saw a stream of some of the debates they've had.

Otherwise, I haven't really missed it.

I can't watch the Sunday shows anymore as they seem about 70-80% Republican.

In July, fed up with cable news, I cancelled cable tv. I couldn't take it any more. So much garbage.

I stream the sports I want online. And I cruise the top news sites on the net - including a number that are not US because, quite frankly, they're not as biased and often better/objective or kind of refreshing. I feel better informed and I get informed when I feel like it - not when the nightly news comes on and I'm trying to eat.

I haven't missed it and I think I'm getting a better bang for my time and entertainment.

[fun n serious]

13. In my opinion she just knows her math. nt

[Hoyt]

15. Sometimes truth hurts. Do you expect Maddow to mimic Sanders' supporters by slamming

the majority of voters who aren't selecting Sanders?

[Hoyt]

22. Take Super Delegates out, and Sanders is still way behind. Apparently, voters don't agree with you.

As a McGovern supporter decades ago and wanting Kerry to beat george war bush so badly, I know it's tough when you believe in someone but the majority of voters don't. But, I wouldn't blame it on people telling the truth and who have been good Democrats.

[questionseverything]

41. all of that would make sense if we the people actually had oversight of our elections

but we have not had that since the mid sixties with the introduction of electronic vote counting

[daleanime]

55. Nice way to imply.....

that some have not been 'good' democrats.

[Hoyt]

60. I'm posting about Sanders' supporters slamming Lewis, Clyburn, even Warren for

not endorsing Sanders.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

88. How different it could have been with McGovern winning that election.

It may be over the top to say that this election is for the future of our world, but that's what's at stake.
There's revolution in the air all around the world against corporations.

Bernie and I are the same age and have been fighting the same battles for years, you might say that we went to different schools together and we see the need for radical change, this country has been going down the wrong road for way to long now.

I urge us all to speak out in public and speak out often. This country is going fascist and I don't mean just the corporations and the media, a good percentage of the people are as well.

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

[mythology]

18. Barring a severe upturn in his primary results,

Sanders isn't going to win. Yes the edge is small in absolute terms, but think how many double digit wins it took to get that. Then look at the remaining states and where is Sanders going to match that?

Getting pissed at Maddow for seeing that is silly. She has regularly covered Sanders, had him on her show, talked about his rise in the polls.

[Trajan]

29. Thanks for that opinion

[silvershadow]

39. LOL #Bern

[chervilant]

87. The same was said about Obama

at about this point in the last primary.

I have to wonder why you aren't on my IL already...

[JaneyVee]

19. Never watch cable news. Never.

[restorefreedom]

30. i am ready to cut the cord myself. nt

[Bread and Circus]

21. my question is why is maddow in the tank for clinton

[oldandhappy]

28. the bosses

[Todays_Illusion]

23. All the NBCs' are owned by the ultra conservative Comcast.

[Vote2016]

25. I reprogrammed my TIVO to drop her show last month. She went from great to grating in record time

[oldandhappy]

26. welcome to the club

Having fun with TYT -- and here of course.

[Trajan]

27. You're about ten years too late

I've been done listening or watching national news media for over a decade ....

Refuse to be spoonfed the 1% preferred opinions ....

[dchill]

31. I quit MSNBC over a month ago.

Maddow and Matthews should be on Clinton's payroll.

[southerncrone]

32. We switched over to CSPAN coverage at 7:30 for the same reason.

It is so much more professional & the calmness is refreshing! Discussion is actually reasonable.

Comcast had put down the edict at MSNBC, it seems. Just b4 the primaries began, all the anchors there made a huge & visible shift to promoting Hillary & downplaying/downtalking Bernie or O'Malley. I'm done w/ them. However, I do believe that is the ultimate goal Comcast is hoping to achieve....run off viewership by becoming Faux Noise Light. They can then shut down the channel & we are left w/no left-leaning news media. Conservative media is all the nation easily has access to watch. This will automatically shift the populous even farther to the right by default.

[Blue_In_AK]

33. I had MSNBC on for about 30 seconds,

but nothing now. It's so peaceful.

[zazen]

34. same here--first time in 15 years. I skip them like Fox news. n/t

[redwitch]

35. I agree.

I stopped watching a while ago. It's just so infuriating! I am only watching CNN because it's a primary day. I miss old time news coverage, tired of people blathering their opinions at me, just report the news dammit!

[kimbutgar]

36. RT and also free speech tv have great progressive tv as an alternate to MSNBC

Thom Hartmann and then Ed Schultz. Then I turn to MSNBC and if Drumpf is on I watch something I taped.

[Crabby Abbey]

83. RT = Russian Times

https://www.rt.com/

[SciDude]

38. Say no to corporate (oligarch) media (propaganda)!

I did long ago and am much happier as a result.

[Jefferson23]

40. Good for you, they suck and always have imo. n/t

[johnnyrocket]

43. Agreed, watching TYT live instead, much more substantive.

[Cassiopeia]

45. I did that a couple of weeks ago.

I'm done with Comcast news. Their bias is clear, especially from Rachel who I adored from AAR.

[fbc]

47. Yeah, ComcastNews sucks now

[Geronimoe]

49. Turn off the propaganda

The good news is that the more extreme they become against Bernie, the better he is doing.

[Mr.Bill]

50. I got tired of Chris Matthews

putting on his knee pads every time Trump gets on camera.

[John K]

51. It's only an election - we are going to have another one in 4 years

No reason to throw out the baby with the bath water

[kgnu_fan]

52. kick....

[pa28]

53. I've always been impressed by Rachel Maddow. Always will be.

Unfortunately I've lost too much respect for her and I can no longer watch.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

54. Everyone there is pimping for Hillary. I can't stomach it.

[Jester Messiah]

56. It's a shame, truly.

But this is what happens when the news media has a profit motive. They can (and will) be bought.

[PatrynXX]

57. Fairly sure Rachel is being ordered or lose her job

to say BS. Melissa got out before things got ugly. But hey Rachel and Roger Ailes are on speaking terms so not really suprised

[lmbradford]

58. me too

I switched to cspan and its been infkrmative and rather neutral.

[PatrynXX]

61. Live odds on CNN for Bernie in MI tonight

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Bernie Sanders

to win Michigan Democratic Primary
56%
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Will the odds go up or down?
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and right now 31 % in he's ahead should be interesting. Isn't this winner take all

[truthseeker1]

62. Even better than that is Young Turks

Or Bernie TV

Young Turks Live Coverage
https://www.tytnetwork.com/live/

Bernie2016tv Live

The Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/mar/08/primary-caucus-live-results-michigan-mississippi-idaho-hawaii-election-2016

[navarth]

64. so true...I don't watch anymore but I checked in tonight....so biased.

fuck these people anymore.

There is such an anti-Bernie bias in the media. Our Detroit NPR station might as well be a Hillary commercial half the time.

I hope Bernie wins our state just to give these people a giant shit burger.

[Little_Wing]

65. Feels weird but they earned it

Who knew? CNN is now my place for politics.
But this Trump free association crazy talk is too much :::commences channel surfing:::

[craigmatic]

66. I voted for Sanders and even I recognize that it's largely over.

[BainsBane]

67. CNN has gone GOP TV

But it's the only full time TV "news" I can get.

[Deadshot]

68. Bernie is ahead of Hillary by 4 percentage points in Michigan.

But of course nobody is saying a word about it.

[Zippyzagnut]

69. Ditto

Me, too. Stopped watching CNN, now it makes me sick to listen to the drivel on MSNBC. They are hiring more and more "conservative" commentators. POC are disappearing. It's only pandering to the Donald.

[PWPippin]

70. We're finished with Rachel and MSNBC, too. We, too, are following on CNN.

We followed Rachel from Air America to MSNBC. I used to have her on the radio when I was painting in my studio. I enjoyed her company. No more!

[Capt.Rocky300]

72. So are we.....

She is dead to us. We haven't made the jump to CNN though. That's still a bitter pill to swallow.

[PWPippin]

95. We're cutting the cord now that my husband has figured out how to stream CNBC on his computer.

He watches CNBC for stock info.

We, too, get Ed (miss him lots on tv) Thom Hartmann, Ring of Fire, The Young Turks. I can't find RT for America. It's a Russian outfit. Odd, isn't it? I wonder when MSNBC recognizes they broadcasting to an empty room.

What a change social media is causing, even among "mature" people like me.

[Jack Rabbit]

73. My solution to the problem of the American main stream media

[center]

[/center]
Highly recommended.
Alo cures addiction to reality television and insipid sitcoms.

[ErikJ]

74. MSNBComcast has had Trump speech on for last half hour!

Selling his own products.

[jillan]

75. cyberpj - If Bernie wins Michigan I AM going to watch Msnbc - just to watch them....

[Ilsa]

77. MSNBC brings on tRump, and I go

wash my face, remove my eye makeup, do my skincare routine, pick up hibby's dirty clotges that missed the hamper, drop a deuce, come back out, and he's STILL BLABBING AWAY!

If he wins the presidency, he'll have daily two hour pressers, mandatory tv coverage, all stations, starring himself. He's so vain.

[raindaddy]

78. MSNBC is owned by Comcast and GE...

It's a managed information outlet.. They fired Big Ed for covering the TPP.... Cenk left because he's a journalist and didn't agree with the corporate establishment Dem line of BS..

Maddow makes a lot of money delivering what her employers want to hear.. I stopped watching her as well.. It's great that you're going to tell her WHY your not watching anymore and you're not alone..

[Flatpicker]

80. Not that anybody would care

But, I do feel Rachel has gotten lost in the game of politics for this campaign.

She seems more involved in the horse race instead of the issues behind them. Forest for the Trees thing going on.

Sad though. When she actually handles an issue (Like Flint), she is very thorough.

[greymouse]

81. Several years ago I got rid of my television

I depended on the online nytimes for news. But the Times has fallen into the sewer the past few months, with incredibly biased political reporting.

Now I'm wondering, what the heck do I use for a news source?

[Third Doctor]

82. I used love watching Rachel

but I see a clear difference in her attitudes and coverage these days. I've started watching TYT and Hartman.

[snowy owl]

84. Maddow overrated! Congratulations for finally breakiing the MSNBC habit!

I hope their numbers tank totally.

[marcopolo63]

85. Maddow's bucking for the Nightly News gig I think...

Judging from her sharp tilt toward the establishment - I'm guessing Rachel Maddow is trying to set herself up for the NBC Nightly News gig. While it is a logical step in her career and I applaud her efforts and excellent reporting - recently and in the past, it is hard to watch MSNBC turn to the right. Next thing we'll be seeing ads for buying gold!!

[corbettkroehler]

86. The Rhodes Scolar/Former Journalist

I don't know which member of the Comcast executive team decided to tilt MSNBC toward Hillary but I had to turn it off until Bernie wins the primary. Intolerable yellow journalism! Although seldom accurate, the Faux News slogan is what America needs, "We report, you decide"

[oldandhappy]

90. tyt, pbs, bbc

There is a whole world out there. Wish we could get Sky News.

[DirkGently]

91. Yep. Van Jones. Axelrod. Donna Brazile.

They're actually doing some analysis, whereas Rachel and Co. lately just seem to be flogging it for Clinton.

[dicksmc3]

92. corporate tv at it's FINEST!!

Ever since Keith was let go I knew things were happening. Found out that MSNBC exec was replaced by a more conservative guy
Then Ed Schultz was let go because he dissed the Keystone pipeline. I've noticed many other changes. Chris Hayes is terrible to watch anymore. I believe the commentators like Rachel and Chris Hayes want to have a job so they do what the new exec tells them to talk about. That"s my opinion.

[marlakay]

94. You can stream TYT online for free live events

I am not a member but watch them sometimes like tonight and they are pro Bernie.

[merkins]

98. Rachel receives an annual salary of around $7 million and

and has a net worth of about $20 million.

And the beat goes on ...

[Duppers]

100. Same here.

I'm so disappointed in her.

[Bernblu]

102. Anyone who believes Claire McCaskill is a liberal and should run for President

doesn't have a friggin clue. I guess when you live in a $20 million bubble you lose touch.

[Enthusiast]

104. Perfect.

[Enthusiast]

103. At one time Rachel Maddow was our favorite. We never missed her show.

But for a long while now we have recognized her blatant bias. All of MSNBC has moved way to the right. Now their credibility is gone. But that's okay because I wasn't going to watch them anyway. But I feel badly for people that believe they are a reliable source, because they are not a reliable source.