Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:18 AM Mar 2016

How many robo-call polls have to miss the mark by a mile before people stop posting them?

The Mitchell Research poll said Clinton would win Michigan by 37% (66% to 29%) - it was a robo-call poll.

The Target-Insyght poll said Clinton would win Michigan by 32% (62% to 30%) - it was a robo-call poll.

If you graph these robo-call polls, you would think this is how the race would play out:



If you believed the robo-call polls, here is what you would have expected in Iowa:



and New Hampshire:



and Nevada:



and Oklahoma:



and Massachusetts:



These robo-call polls are horribly inaccurate (and they always seem to err in favor of Clinton).

The Hillary crowd is going to continue to post robo-call polls. Just remember how inaccurate they have been in Hillary's favor and don't give those polls any attention.

Likewise, when you see the Hillary crowd blathering about Nate Silver's forecasts, remember that 358 is basing its forecasts on robo-call polls mixed in with the other polling so they have this bias built into the forecast model. Remember, Silver's 538 gave Hillary a 99% chance of winning Michigan. Garbage in, garbage out.

5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How many robo-call polls have to miss the mark by a mile before people stop posting them? (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 OP
This is as much a way to try to throw the election as anything else. monicaangela Mar 2016 #1
Pushing these bullshit polls is part of the turnout problem. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #2
I agree Attorney in Texas monicaangela Mar 2016 #3
I hope everyone now realizes all these "polls" are/were part of a charade to intimidate. reformist2 Mar 2016 #4
These polls aren't just nearly always wrong; they're wrong in the SAME DIRECTION EVERY TIME Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #5

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
1. This is as much a way to try to throw the election as anything else.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

People love to feel they are on the winning team. If pollsters can harness those people with false polls it sometimes helps the candidate they are rooting for. Polls are impartial you might say. Don't count on it.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
3. I agree Attorney in Texas
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:32 AM
Mar 2016

That is why I try my best to ignore the polls. Polls have been so wrong lately I don't know why anybody pays them any attention anymore.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
4. I hope everyone now realizes all these "polls" are/were part of a charade to intimidate.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:37 AM
Mar 2016

To make you think that Hillary had this in the bag, even though there was no real-world evidence around for anyone to see. Still, seeing these numbers posted day after day gave it all an appearance of reality. Surely these polls couldn't *all* be wrong. They couldn't all be bought-and-paid for, could they????

After last night, I think we know the answer. Most of these polling agencies are corrupt. No way do they just happen to "miss" the surge for Bernie in every state by 8 - 10 or now 20 points.
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»How many robo-call polls ...