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Can Bernie Sanders recover? (Original Post) FlatBaroque Mar 2016 OP
LOL tk2kewl Mar 2016 #1
They're spinning it as only 1-percent today on Detroit NPR. Octafish Mar 2016 #2
I have never been more disappointed in NPR than during this primary. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #4
and we pretty much pay for NPR, right? Merryland Mar 2016 #7
By various methods, yes (mostly). Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #10
NPR has leaned right for years I hate liars Mar 2016 #9
I guess I didn't see it nearly that soon. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #22
I first noticed it back in 1992 SheilaT Mar 2016 #28
Blind arrogance and isolation from the rest of America will be an undoing appalachiablue Mar 2016 #38
Yes, you got it.. DeGreg Mar 2016 #56
Don't they have a Republican CEO? Enthusiast Mar 2016 #16
Not according to his Wikipedia profile, anyway. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #21
Well, regardless, NPR has an obvious rightward bias. I guess we aren't supposed to notice, lol. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #26
You may be thinking of when Bush Jr. brought in a political hack to run PBS FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #24
Maybe so. I have not listened for a long time. But I can smell the masqueraders a mile off. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #41
Okay. Today I listened to several hours of NPR. They were very unfair to Bernie. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #62
Nice Polite Republicans. n/t QC Mar 2016 #20
Ouch! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #23
Please stop contributing. tabasco Mar 2016 #36
That's my intent. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #37
This is what Republicans wanted when they kept defunding NPR senz Mar 2016 #59
National Pentagon Radio has its priorities FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #11
Irritating as hell. bvf Mar 2016 #18
NPR's coverage is horrendous. Svafa Mar 2016 #34
We stopped giving to NPR years ago. Duval Mar 2016 #47
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #3
The Ma$$ Media needs to stop trying to decide our elections! WDIM Mar 2016 #5
Twistin" UglyGreed Mar 2016 #6
Nice! Merryland Mar 2016 #8
Someone had it PatrynXX Mar 2016 #12
Yeah, that was bad what she did with regards to Michigan... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #13
The KKK is anti-Jewish. No question about that. Always has been. Always will be. n/t mikehiggins Mar 2016 #25
Although the KKK isn't exactly anti Jewish AlbertCat Mar 2016 #43
omg, that was a LOL for REAL! closeupready Mar 2016 #14
Or is this simply postponing the inevitable? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #15
Or is this simply the beginning of the end for your candidate? Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #29
time will tell. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #31
Hard to say at this point. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #39
Or is this simply postponing the inevitable? AlbertCat Mar 2016 #44
She'll earn whatever she gets -- win or lose, it will be earned. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #46
She'll earn whatever she gets AlbertCat Mar 2016 #48
Just like her speaking fees. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #50
Ouch ... salinsky Mar 2016 #52
Except for the few million dollars donated to his campaign padfun Mar 2016 #53
How'd that big win you predicted feel, Buzz Clik? Scootaloo Mar 2016 #57
LOL 47of74 Mar 2016 #17
ROFL! n/t bvf Mar 2016 #19
Have to admit, he looked FLOORED like he had come to believe his own lies tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #27
Nice. Looked like they had studied for the wrong test. SheilaT Mar 2016 #30
More like: looked like they had cheated for the wrong test. JimDandy Mar 2016 #35
OMG LOL tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #45
Saw that one on Facebook. malthaussen Mar 2016 #32
If you saw it on Facebook and I got it from Twitter, it already has gone viral FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #33
memes robcotton Mar 2016 #66
Good job FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #67
All Useless Until After Philly corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #40
That is unfortunate, I have been liking Van Jones (more than the others, at least) / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #42
on anderson cooper 360, van hopemountain Mar 2016 #64
I was watching and that's not what I took away from it Oilwellian Mar 2016 #61
Bernie has a sad... blackspade Mar 2016 #49
I thought this meant... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #51
. merrily Mar 2016 #54
I clicked on your thread in a huff and am now smiling lunatica Mar 2016 #55
I'll check the scientific, highly accurate,reality based, polls to answer that. Oh, wait.... Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #58
Hillary came in 2nd, Bernie was next to last! - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #60
Perfect. k/r AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #63
LOL - too perfect. myrna minx Mar 2016 #65

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. They're spinning it as only 1-percent today on Detroit NPR.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

Not that the guy came up from 30-points back.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
4. I have never been more disappointed in NPR than during this primary.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:45 AM
Mar 2016

And I'm a long-standing contributor...

I don't listen as much as I used to because I don't commute by car, and the only radio I own is there (yeah, I know...internet radio). But I've always expected NPR to be the least biased major(ish) news source. That confidence eroded in 2008, and is pretty much shattered now.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. By various methods, yes (mostly).
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

There's also corporate underwriting, but the majority of NPR funding comes from pledge drives, personal contributions, government funding (thus also us), etc. Seriously reconsidering my modestly generous pledge...

I hate liars

(165 posts)
9. NPR has leaned right for years
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

Just like network and cable news channels, they feature members of AEI, CEI, Heritage, Cato, et al whenever they need "unbiased" third party commentary. And when they're not slanting the news, NPR sticks with safe "public interest" stories.

I was a faithful listener of NPR many years ago, but beginning in the 80s, it's taken a long march to the right.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. I first noticed it back in 1992
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

when various NPR commentators, most specifically Cokie Roberts, assured us over and over again that Bill Clinton had zero chance of winning the nomination, or the Presidency. I began to understand the entire "Inside the Beltway" mentality, although I'd noticed that during the 1970's when I actually lived in the DC area. That mindset has only strengthened in the decades since, and they are all like people who don't believe anyone else is entirely real.

Well, we are real, and we actually are an amazing and diverse bunch in this country.

appalachiablue

(41,094 posts)
38. Blind arrogance and isolation from the rest of America will be an undoing
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

for some unless real reforms are enacted, as history shows. The 90s are over, the memo didn't reach some yet apparently.

'Apres moi, le deluge' (after me, the flood), King Louis XV of France (1715-1774)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XV_of_France

 

DeGreg

(72 posts)
56. Yes, you got it..
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

You can easily detect the bias towards the status quo and The Establishment mindset. Even when they try to give Bernie "equal time" (remember that) they seem to always frame the question with Hillary in mind, and the "experts" always seem to do the same.

NPR is like Radio Free America aimed at US Citizens-- telling us what to think.
I mean they report on war, war, war, like they're covering a sport and they they're a bunch of homers.

Anyway, it's disheartening sometimes to think that a lot of people hear what they say as the unvarnished truth, when it's just propaganda for the powers that be.

p.s. Looking in the concept of "examination of dissent" and you'll see how deep a mind fuck propaganda can be. And, watch "The Century of The Self" BBC (?) series of docs by Adam Curtis (search youtube) -- and OMG, just Wow.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
16. Don't they have a Republican CEO?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

I have been boycotting NPR since before 2008. They are reliably biased. False and misleading information is seldom if ever challenged.

In 2008 I was fishing and listening to NPR. A propaganda piece came on. I was shocked by the nature of the narrative. I was even more shocked when the host said absolutely nothing to refute such an obvious blatant lie.

I refuse to listen to an American Pravda.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. Not according to his Wikipedia profile, anyway.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016
Mohn has contributed to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Gephardt for President, Gore 2000, John Kerry for President, McCain 2000, Obama Victory Fund 2012, and the Progressive Patriots Fund[1]


The only glitch there is McCain 2000, but after W got the nomination, apparently he flipped to Gore. That was right at the peak of McCain's "maverick" period, when he was actually advocating some sensible election reforms, and so forth. Unfucking elections being a huge, huge issue, I can understand Mohn's position.

Overall, I'd have to consider Mohn a liberal, albeit more in the Hillary mold than the Sanders mold.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
24. You may be thinking of when Bush Jr. brought in a political hack to run PBS
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Tomlinson was his name IIRC

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
41. Maybe so. I have not listened for a long time. But I can smell the masqueraders a mile off.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

I'll give 'em a listen and find out.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
62. Okay. Today I listened to several hours of NPR. They were very unfair to Bernie.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

I will continue my boycott.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
37. That's my intent.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

I've been a contributing listener for years, and it will be a bit odd not to have an OPB (Oregon Public Broadcasting) sticker on my car. But I'm done...I'm not renewing my pledge. Back to nothing but obscure goth/industrial and J-metal band (and one Luna Lovegood) stickers, I guess...

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
59. This is what Republicans wanted when they kept defunding NPR
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016

They handed it to the 1% who now own it -- with a little help from people (like me) who still contribute.

My problem is, I love my local affiliate but hate national for their blatant pro-Hillary stance.

I'm going to suspend my monthly donations until they begin broadcasting fairly again.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. Irritating as hell.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

If I hear the words "narrow win" one more fucking time, I swear I'm going to call them and ask who I talk to about getting a refund on years of donations.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
47. We stopped giving to NPR years ago.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

I used to rely on them for honesty and was dismayed when they began their slant to the right.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
5. The Ma$$ Media needs to stop trying to decide our elections!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

Its over when the last vote is counted at the convention until then the media just needs to stick to the facts and end the Spin!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
12. Someone had it
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

on CNN as she's winning it the same way Obama did. Huh? actually she stole Michigan outright in 2008 other than that, everyone wins differently this is setting up to be a north vs the south thing. Although the KKK isn't exactly anti Jewish at least I thought maybe it is I don't know..

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
13. Yeah, that was bad what she did with regards to Michigan...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

...in 2008. Barack Obama was honorable, Hillary was atrocious.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
39. Hard to say at this point.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:19 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's no longer "inevitable" (never was...), but remains the front runner, and by a not-insignificant margin. This is likely to go down to the wire.

Of course, even if it's by a single pledged delegate, the superdelegates had better flip to the popular choice. If they don't, the party dies right then and there (for all that the death throes will be long and painful).

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
48. She'll earn whatever she gets
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:41 PM
Mar 2016

Like her speaking fees?


She hasn't earned what she's got already. The nepotism and insider shenanigans are already blinding.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
50. Just like her speaking fees.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

If Sanders could get paid for speaking, he would.

Unfortunately, the people who want to hear him speak aren't willing to pay for anything.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
53. Except for the few million dollars donated to his campaign
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:19 PM
Mar 2016

every few weeks, or every time he is attacked. So yes, we are willing to pay to hear him.

In fact, every time Hillary speaks more evil, I donate more to the Sanders campaign. And I still have another grand and a half to go until I max out.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
27. Have to admit, he looked FLOORED like he had come to believe his own lies
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

Last night, the entire panel looked like they had studied for the wrong test




robcotton

(1 post)
66. memes
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

yes, it def. did go viral. i posted it and the next morning the other 98% had posted it and i had like 100 facebook messages telling me my meme was wviral lol. check my profile for my other memes. thanks for posting it.

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
40. All Useless Until After Philly
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:22 PM
Mar 2016

I tried CNN and MSNBC last night after Michigan was called and the tilt remained. Van Jones, whom I respect right down to my core, was positively giddy when describing how Hillary won Mississippi in a blow-out.

I've had to build my own filters for all of the spin.

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
64. on anderson cooper 360, van
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:31 AM
Mar 2016

repeated the bs about the minutemen charge from hillary saying that bernie will never be able to recover from this charge with latino voters in light of his vote against the immigraton bill in '07.

curiously, dolores huerta also brought up how bernie had voted against the immigration bill in '07.

yet neither bothered to clarify why bernie voted against the '07 bill but did vote in favor of the '08 bill.

two minority icons - now lying for hillary.

it seems they all (including all of the msm) get their morning scripts and orders for talking points for the day from hillary's campaign - and they all fall into line spouting lies.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
61. I was watching and that's not what I took away from it
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 03:37 PM
Mar 2016

My impression was he was being facetious about Hillary winning Mississippi. My impression was he was happy about Bernie winning Michigan. I don't usually watch American Pravda so don't know what he usually says, but my impression last night was he's not a big fan of Hillary and he was pleased to see Bernie do so well.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
55. I clicked on your thread in a huff and am now smiling
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

But for a tiny fraction of a second I thought Wolf had actually said that. It's not like anyone is stretching the truth a whole hell of a lot in that graphic!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
58. I'll check the scientific, highly accurate,reality based, polls to answer that. Oh, wait....
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

That would be like checking for the ratings for the best soup by checking Campbell Soup commercials.

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