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calguy

(5,292 posts)
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:38 PM Mar 2016

Great win for Bernie last night, but it doesn't help him much

Even though he pulled an impressive upset win in Michigan, he fell further behind in delegates. With all the states awarding delegates proportionately, close wins like last night don't do much to cut into Hillary's lead. Bernie needs a bunch of blowout wins and that doesn't look too likely at this point. Hillary's lead is almost a bridge too far.

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Great win for Bernie last night, but it doesn't help him much (Original Post) calguy Mar 2016 OP
If I had a dollar for every time one of you geniuses Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #1
Check back with me in June calguy Mar 2016 #3
Sorry, Ace, Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #5
Now you're talking! Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #10
This is the memo for today, don'cha know? Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #4
Oy vey! Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #6
Yep...that crap started last night just before midnight... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #11
But he's won all those states! ...wait. But he's won the most votes! ...wait, that's wrong too. onehandle Mar 2016 #2
Ha! :-D NurseJackie Mar 2016 #7
How many states did you predict he'd win? How long was he supposed to last? I know it stings. morningfog Mar 2016 #8
Doesn't "sting" at all calguy Mar 2016 #15
"southern states"..."southern states" what does that mean? nt msongs Mar 2016 #27
The US is made up of regions. Southern states are .... in the South. morningfog Mar 2016 #34
lol.... artyteacher Mar 2016 #9
Well, Hillary can pursue this strategy ... earthside Mar 2016 #16
So her winning delegates in the primaries Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #19
But don't you want someone that is a winner in the general? scscholar Mar 2016 #20
Hillary is winning with this thing called 'voters.' onehandle Mar 2016 #21
chuckle. riversedge Mar 2016 #33
LOL!!! Math is hard for some people! beaglelover Mar 2016 #36
In every great upset there is a big play Press Virginia Mar 2016 #12
We'll see ibegurpard Mar 2016 #13
It helped him a great deal. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #14
Bernie is great at jump shots Kalidurga Mar 2016 #17
this is a joke right? How do you guys post this crap with a straight face? litlbilly Mar 2016 #18
I think they are being paid to put out the propaganda pdsimdars Mar 2016 #25
I think youre right, i dont think they are paying much tho based on the quality of the op's:) litlbilly Mar 2016 #26
Assuming, of course, they actually believe it and aren't just parroting talking points. arcane1 Mar 2016 #28
No they dont believe it, you can see right through the talking points. the meme's of the day are litlbilly Mar 2016 #31
Sure it does. If he surpasses Hillary in number of delegates won, he has a good chance Vinca Mar 2016 #22
This... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #32
It helps him a LOT pdsimdars Mar 2016 #23
Yeah. It'll probably be fine. Mufaddal Mar 2016 #24
Some have the eyes to see. Some do not. pangaia Mar 2016 #29
I thought the same thing as someone else here when I read this OP::: bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #30
Beg to differ: pat_k Mar 2016 #35
Oh, goody. Another thread to trash... (eom) mak3cats Mar 2016 #37

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
1. If I had a dollar for every time one of you geniuses
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

declared it's over for Bernie I would be a rich, rich woman.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
10. Now you're talking!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

"Oh yeah, let me get back to you in June because I'll really remember you from all the other HRC supporters that posted the same exact talking point the day after she lost MI after holding a 30 point lead."

Docreed2003

(16,850 posts)
11. Yep...that crap started last night just before midnight...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

The same crew that were crowing about a HRC a beat down of Sanders in MI, were quick to take up the "well...yeah...but the delegates" meme right after MI was called. Sanders may not win the nomination, but the party ignores his supporters and their concerns at their peril!

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. But he's won all those states! ...wait. But he's won the most votes! ...wait, that's wrong too.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:40 PM
Mar 2016

But he's won all those online polls!

Ah, there it is.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. How many states did you predict he'd win? How long was he supposed to last? I know it stings.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

It will sting more as HIllary is fast running out of Southern states.

calguy

(5,292 posts)
15. Doesn't "sting" at all
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 PM
Mar 2016

I find it very entertaining. Makes for a very interesting primary season. Bernie is helping to make Hillary a much better candidate going into the general just as she made Obama a much better candidate last time around. I just don't think the outcome has changed even though he's been stronger than most of us anticipated. Good for him and good for our country.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
34. The US is made up of regions. Southern states are .... in the South.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:39 PM
Mar 2016

Historically, they are the states which seceded from the Union, those south of the Mason-Dixon line.

Hope that helps.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
16. Well, Hillary can pursue this strategy ...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

... of winning the nomination by hook-or-crook, by any means necessary, by demanding super delegate loyalty, etc. ...

... and you'll have a nomination that is worthless.

If the Clinton/DNC machine keeps up with this arrogant attitude towards Sanders supporters, regular grassroots Democrats, and Democratic-leaning unaffiliateds --- then the split in the Democratic Party will make the one occurring in the Repuglican Party look like just small a crack in the sidewalk.

The Hillary campaign is treading into dangerous territory if they think they can bully their way to the nomination.



Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
19. So her winning delegates in the primaries
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

is bullying, or getting the nomination "by hook or by crook"?! You do know she's ahead in PLEDGED delegates by about 217? For a point of comparison, Obama won last time with 108 delegates. Even if she and Bernie split the rest of the delegates halfway from here on, she will still win.

It's certainly possible that Bernie could catch up and surpass her (although not very likely), but her winning the primaries by winning delegates, is not bullying, it's democracy.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
20. But don't you want someone that is a winner in the general?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

That's my problem with this entire situation.

 

ThePhilosopher04

(1,732 posts)
14. It helped him a great deal.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

He proved he could win a pivotal battleground state, with a diverse demographic, giving him significant momentum moving forward into the rest of the country. To use a basketball analogy, Hillary is running out of layups and will now have to start shooting 3s with a hand in her face from here on out. Bernie will now be the one attacking the basket while Hillary plays matador defense.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
28. Assuming, of course, they actually believe it and aren't just parroting talking points.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:31 PM
Mar 2016

I have my doubts.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
31. No they dont believe it, you can see right through the talking points. the meme's of the day are
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

posted over and over again by the same people and they aren't fooling many people, at least not here.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
22. Sure it does. If he surpasses Hillary in number of delegates won, he has a good chance
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

of being the nominee. If superdelegates don't flip their votes they'll destroy the party if they overturn the will of the voters. Hillary has done really well in the southern states - the ones Democrats won't win anyway in the general - but it appears she might have a little competition in the Midwest and west. It's not an easy thing to do, but it can be done.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
32. This...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

Every time the media puts for silly stuff like the OP, it really seems to motivate those who support Bernie in the next states on the primary slate. No one is shutting up and doing what they are told this year, and I LOVE it.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. It helps him a LOT
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

It's called momentum. . . look it up. If you look at that ABC poll, Hillary's support has been falling for months and Bernie's has been rising. Bernie has won 9 out of the last 10 in non-Southern states.

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