"I'm not a natural politician"

[Recursion]

Yeah, that's becoming increasingly clear. And if a quarterback going into the superbowl says "I'm not really very good at football" I have to really wonder about the team's odds.

[NowSam]

1. She is on the path to forgiveness

with that. She should fire all of her staff and start over from the heart. Say, "I know I have confused you with contradictions and I want to clear up the record. Then she should go through a clear and concise list of where she stands right now on every issue that matters. Oh wait, Bernie already does that. His one issue candidacy is about: Truth. That is his issue. He truthfully points out every injustice. He took the lead on that. That is what leaders do. He should be our nominee. He should be our president. I think she knows it too. How could she not? He is awe inspiring. Perhaps she can find redemption with some clarity and then get a plum cabinet position. OR she can go enjoy retirement as a very wealthy person. All that money she raked in? That ought to be enough for anyone. Bernie is blazing a trail that will be followed long after he takes a bow. President Sanders. Has a great ring to it.

[PyaarRevolution]

4. Cabinet position?!

No, no, no!!!!! I deserve President, I've prepped for this day, talked about what "God" means in my life, etc. I've taken all the requisite steps so vote me in dammit!!!!!! Before my head explodes!!!!!!! I am your Abuela, listen to me!!!!!!

I'm sorry, I'm sorry to the Hillary fans but I couldn't resist. I know this isn't SNL but you tempted me so badly Sam.

[NowSam]

6. LOL. Sorry.

I am just running my head tonight.

[Kip Humphrey]

2. It must be the framing and phrasing

you often cause WUPs and belly laughs in my immediate vicinity!

[Armstead]

3. I think her problem is she's too much of a politician

Even though I disagree with her on many things, I'd respect her a lot more if she could be real and straightforward.

[Recursion]

8. Take trade

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(Yes, that's kind of an amusing title line, but you know what I meant.)

Hell, I'm with Clinton and against about 95% of DU on that. It's a very hard sell, but dodging it only makes it worse. I think if she had stuck to her guns on it she might have taken MI. Natural politicians know that the way to make a hard sell it to close it, not avoid it. And maybe you close and maybe you don't, but you don't avoid a hard sell.

The play for her, on trade, in Michigan, was to find a heavy plant manufacturer whose exports tripled after NAFTA (those exist; we built the factories Mexico used). Or even better find a longshoreman on a Lakes port who got his job as trade on the Lakes picked back up (that's probably the stronger play, honestly). I honestly think that would have sold a lot better.

Anyways. I can't get behind someone for President who's not a natural politician. Which is the problem.

[Lone_Wolf]

5. She's not a natural human being either

n/t

[Aerows]

7. Well said, Recursion.

She was all over the board tonight, and none of it was genuine. It was like the moderators and the audience was humoring her just to be polite.

[applegrove]

9. She's referring to all the dyslexics of varying IQ who are

natural politicians like: Woodrow Wilson, 3 Kennedys, Reagan, Bush Sr., Al Gore, George Bush Jr., Paul Wellstone, Palin, Trump, JustinTrudeau and Churchill. All dyslexic all considered 'natural politicians' who could fight and paint a big picture using simple words and ideas and pull down their opponents fictions. Seems the GOP knows this and has been running dyslexics one after the other. Dyslexia is a type of brain not someone's IQ. They read crowds and subtleties. They are charismatic. And they always speak from the heart because they rely more on episodic memory than working memory so they really are putting ideas together every time they give a speech. So they seem more natural in how they connect. They know form and what makes a great idea or a great photo op. They know meaning. But unless they are brilliant like JFK they are really bad at details. They get used by the GOP because they are 'spoonfed' ideas if, . are not schooled enough on their own to know what is what. Certainly the GOP has made a habit of spoon-feeding the Reagan and bushes. Trump seems on the fence about being fed. Who knows which way he will go. Point is they naturally connect. Hillary doesn't have that massive skill-set though she has some parts of it. She has a much more detailed oriented mind. I'd trust Hillary to make up her own mind cause with dyslexics it matters who they surround themselves with. Remember JFK got so burned by the Cia and the Bay of Pigs invasion that he turned to Bobby from there on in. Hillary can do it on her own. Bernie... I don't know if he is a natural leader or a dyslexic. He strikes me as not a politician at all, he is some kind of angel or something.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. In that case, we should run Bob Weir.

Hell, I'd vote for him.


Seriously, I dont know about your theory. For one, Al Gore is not what I would call a 'natural politician', nor is he someone who has trouble with details.

[applegrove]

13. He's smart. Einstein was dyslexic too with a very high IQ. He colleagues

used to get frustrated with Einstein because he didn't memorize some of the things a proper physicist should. And he came up with his ideas all visually and then worked out the math. And he was not always right on the math. But he was right on the visual idea he had had. Everything is relative. Dyslexia is just a type of brain whose aspects vary from dyslexic to dyslexic. Gore is very smart. Kennedy was the smartest President there has ever been. Obviously as your IQ rises so is the incidence of dyslexia deficit reduced because you can compensate for the differences in a dyslexic brain. All that visual processing makes for great naural leaders cause they pick up the trends (feelings and ideas) in a crowd. They can't help it.Trump reads the press as he flies home and then comes up with themes and makes up the actual speech as he is standing at the podium. So it is fresh and authentic and feels real to people. Hillary mentioned tonight that she was not a natural politician like her husband or Obama. But most important I say we tear down the fiction that is Donald Trump and demistify his talents. He's the enemy. Gore may have come from a repressed wasp background that didn't allow him to fully enjoy his own talents. He certainly pulled down the right's fictions with an inconvenient truth.

[IdaBriggs]

14. Wow. Very well explained and clarifying things I didn't get.

Please make this an OP - I will kick and rec! (Please put link in a reply so I don't miss it?) This is fascinating stuff - and please include some from your lower reply, too!



This is why I enjoy DU - thank you for posting this!

[applegrove]

15. I already put it up a month ago. People do see it. I get some looks. I think it

is a trade secret in the political world.

[IdaBriggs]

16. LINK, PLEASE?

Pretty please?

[applegrove]

17. I can't do it tonight. I am on my cell phone. PM me with a reminder

tomorrow and I will look for it.It may not have been an OP. We shall see. Thank you for asking.

[applegrove]

18. It was just a reply not an OP. On my journal in December.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7466144

[TDale313]

10. I actually thought that was one of her best, least guarded moments.

I don't think she actually enjoys the process of running for office. Bill, on the other hand, fed off the energy of the crowds and seemed to just love running.

[Recursion]

11. And. That's. What. I'm. Saying.

That was much more honest than some of my friends seem to think.

This isn't her wheelhouse, at all. She hates it.

I can't, ever, back a candidate who isn't made for this. And she's not.

It's a shame; I think she'd be a marginally better President.