Hillary Clinton Praises Nancy Reagan for ‘Effective, Low-Key Advocacy’ on HIV/AIDS

[KamaAina]

Not The Onion!

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-praises-reagan-record/

Speaking before Nancy Reagan’s funeral on Friday, Hillary Clinton praised Nancy Reagan for her “effective, low-key advocacy” on HIV/AIDS during her husband’s presidency.

Clinton called to mind “how difficult it was to talk about HIV/AIDS” in the 80s and credited both Nancy and Ronald Reagan with helping to start a “national conversation” on the disease.

Said Clinton,
“And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan–in particular Mrs. Reagan–we started a national conversation when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it. And you know that too is something that I really appreciate with her very effective, low-key advocacy but it penetrated the public conscience. And people began to say, ‘Hey, we have to do something about this too.'”

Clinton’s praise for the Reagan record comes in stark contrast to the thunderous choir of voices in the LGBT community who have criticized both Nancy and Ronald Reagan for their ineptitude and silence on HIV/AIDS. Just today, The Guardian published a piece titled “The First Lady Who Looked Away” about the many activists on the forefront of the HIV/AIDS crisis in the 80s who believe the Reagans turned “a blind eye” to the plight.

[Lochloosa]

1. Are you fucking kidding me...

[azurnoir]

2. ah ya it must have been very low key, so low key that no one even noticed

now that really took some talent

[Fairgo]

77. Low key?

I think it was in the key of FU.

[arcane1]

3. Shameless pandering to low-information right-wingers. Typical n/t

[roguevalley]

23. this is beyond the beyond.

[magical thyme]

49. and millenials who were in diapers at the time nt

[Gwhittey]

4. Even worse is

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ronald-reagan-aids-crisis_us_565e002ae4b08e945fecef1d

[Fumesucker]

5. So low key no one has known about it until now

[Jarqui]

6. I thought the national conversation was why they wouldn't talk about it

David Brock "Whoops. Damage control: It's ok to flip-flop on this one, Hillary. Nancy's dead!"

[Human101948]

7. Elizabeth Taylor used her celebrity to actually do something...

In the early 1980s, AIDS was literally a laughing matter for the Reagan administration, as evidenced by chilling audio of White House press conferences unearthed in the new short film When AIDS Was Funny. So when Elizabeth Taylor decided to use her fame in the early 1990s to advocate for AIDS victims—famously calling out President George H.W. Bush for ignoring the pandemic (“In fact, I’m not even sure if he knows how to spell ‘AIDS’”)—her task seemed downright daunting and her courage immense. So it shouldn’t particularly surprise us that the powerhouse activist, Oscar-winning actress, and enduring beauty might have taken some business into her own hands while lawmakers stalled on taking the disease seriously....

...Taylor took up the cause for AIDS in 1985—the same year that her friend Rock Hudson died from the disease—personally making phone calls to raise money for research. She remembered that initial outreach during a 1992 interview with Vanity Fair.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/12/elizabeth-taylor-aids-drug-ring

I don't remember Nancy Reagan doing shit.

[CharlotteVale]

8. I am speechless. No words for this travesty.

[BernieforPres2016]

9. There is no Onion anymore

It was sold to Univision, owned by the largest contributor to Bill and Hillary Clinton over the last 25 years.

Now just another part of the corporate media.

RIP.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Is this where Hillary got the idea to tell Wall Street to "just stop it"?

aka: Wink-wink, nudge-nudge.

[Kip Humphrey]

11. Is this a case of Hilary practicing "how she wants the world to have been" again?

unbelievable. This can only be a demonstration that for the LGBT community, Hilary Clinton has been mostly among the missing.

[Beacool]

12. Oh please, people, try showing some class.

She was questioned about Nancy prior to the funeral. Was she supposed to say something negative about her? There's a time and place for everything and a funeral is not the place to criticize the deceased.

[suffragette]

13. She said positive things, no need for her to add this revisionist bullshit.

[Beacool]

17. She has a right to say whatever she wishes to say.

Besides, on "Sanders Underground" there's nothing that Hillary may do or say that would please the lot of you.

[suffragette]

19. Those of us who remember those times and friends we lost have the right to call out this lie

This has nothing to do with Clinton and Sanders.
Both of them said nice things about Nancy at her death.

This is about what Hillary ADDED that was complete revisionist garbage.

[malthaussen]

28. Sure, she has a right to say what she pleases...

... and we have a right to wonder why she chose to say that. She didn't want to speak ill of the dead? Rock and roll. But there were truthful positive things she could have said, so why, one wonders, did she choose this lie?

Unforced errors are always puzzling, even if they are ones you, personally, do not find offensive.

-- Mal

[Dustlawyer]

60. Bullet meet foot, again! Hillary always shoots herself in the foot.

If she wins the Primary we can count on her to blow both feet off before the election!

[malthaussen]

61. Which is not, as it happens...

... something we should be happy about, because there is a good probability that she will be the nominee.

-- Mal

[Dustlawyer]

70. I am not happy about anything when it comes to Hillary

except that she would be somewhat better than Trump and still loads better than Cruz. Her victory in the General would still feel like a huge loss to me. Her SCOTUS nominees would be so corporate we will never have justice for individuals in this country.

Climate Change will continue unabated under Hillary. Her solar panel promise is a band aid. We need regulations protecting people and businesses installing solar so that the states (power companies) treat them fairly instead of what they are doing now, adding fees that eat up solar system benefits. Power companis refuse to pay anywhere near the wholesale rate for excess power generated by solar.

Besides, like Bernie said, we cannot accomplish anything until we end Citizens United and have Publicly Funded Elections. That would be the last thing she would ever do because it would shut off the money flowing into Washington from her corporate friends who like running the government, writing the laws, and sacking up our tax dollars.

[Kelvin Mace]

33. So, she can say

"George W. Bush should be praised for his outstanding humanitarian efforts on behalf of Saddam Hussein?

[Warren DeMontague]

44. 'Sanders Underground', where Nancy Reagan isn't honored appropriately!!

why those whippersnappers probably dont even JUST SAY NO!

[magical thyme]

50. and we have a right to call out her barefaces lies. nt

[arcane1]

53. Trump has that right too. Is he also immune from criticism?

She isn't royalty, and public statements can, and should, be subject to criticism. What a lame-ass defense.

[Miles Archer]

67. Yeah, well...that was completely uncalled for.

The Sanders supporters are energized and motivated by their choice of candidate. So, apparently, are you...judging by the photo in your sig line.

Let's get clear about one thing right now. Like it or not, Hillary lacks "universal appeal." And when I say that, I mean among Republicans, Independents, Undecideds...and Democrats.

Of course, the same can be said about Bernie. Or Trump, Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich.

A person not wanting Hillary Clinton as the President of the United States doesn't mean you have to throw a brick over that person's back fence.

And yes, while I minimally follow this particular forum...largely because of the sniping back and forth...I know Clinton supporters get a share of it too.

But I'm not talking about them, I'm talking about your "Bernie Underground" remark. There are a lot of us who are members here and contribute regularly to the discussion in the least "in your face" manner possible. And if Bernie supporters get a little over-eager or overzealous, so what? So do some of the Clinton supporters.

What I do not do...and what many Bernie AND Hillary supporters on DU also do not do...is take a sarcastic, superior tone to the people who aren't in agreement with us.

You have the right to post whatever you want here, as long as the "jury system," mods, and admins sign off on it. So do I. So does everyone else. You want a Website that's consistently pro-Hillary? Start your own.

[ljm2002]

69. Yes, she certainly does...

...but see, here's the thing: when you're vetting a candidate, a big part of how you decide who you want to vote for, is watching just what it is that they "wish to say".

Apparently Hillary wishes to revise history and make Nancy and Ronald Reagan quiet heroes during the AIDS epidemic. Which could not be further from the truth. Which in turn, adds to her reputation for dishonesty.

See how that works?

[bvf]

34. Right you are.

Her tendency to just, well, make shit up gets the better of her once again.

Did anyone ever actually ask her if she took sniper fire in Bosnia, or did she just think people were too stupid to question an unprompted line of complete bullshit?

[Arazi]

16. If you don't know the ramifications of the Reagans deliberate blackout on HIV/AIDS

i recommend you learn quickly exactly how offensive this is

To assign "credit " for any AIDS/HIV advocacy at all to Nancy Reagan who was particularly cruel to those with AIDS, even Rock Hudson a personal "friend", is a pretty egregious lie

[Merryland]

36. Is she enjoying pissing people off at this point?

Why would she pick the one disease that so many REMEMBER Nancy Reagan's non-involvement with?

[Bluenorthwest]

18. She should not lie and claim a person who behaved despicably was some hero

She's lying about very important history. It is deeply offensive.

Hillary Clinton's Reagan AIDS Revisionism Is Shocking, Insulting, and Utterly Inexplicable
In reality, the Reagans were infamously, disastrously silent on AIDS—as President, Ronald Reagan spoke more about UFOs than HIV, and didn’t even say the word in a public address until 1987, by which point it had killed tens of thousands of Americans. The virus was quite literally a joke inside the Reagan White House. Whatever “advocacy” of Nancy’s Clinton is dreaming up here must’ve been low-key to the point of non-existence—just last year it was reported that she ignored her Hollywood friend Rock Hudson’s pleas for help as he himself died from AIDS. It’s hard for one ugly episode to stand out among so many ugly aspects of the Reagan administration, but Nancy and Ronald’s deliberate silence on one of the defining public health crises of the era is surely near the top of any list. What Clinton is saying isn’t just untrue, but erases the deadly legacy of the Reagan era.

Peter Staley, an HIV/AIDS activist and founder of Treat Action Group, who was diagnosed with AIDS-related complex in 1985, told Gawker, “Thank God I’m not a single issue voter, or she would have lost my vote with this insulting and farcical view of early AIDS history.”
http://gawker.com/hillary-clintons-reagan-aids-revisionism-is-shocking-i-1764346878

[cyberswede]

22. It's possible to say something nice without actually...um...lying.

indeed.

[Merryland]

37. Not if you're compulsively self-aggrandizing.

(hey, did I just make up a new mental disorder?)

[Kelvin Mace]

30. You mean a seasoned politician

doesn't know how to tackle a PR-101 situation like this?

You speak in generalities, praise uncontroversial achievements. What you don't do is praise them for something they not only didn't do, but did the opposite of.

If she can't handle such a elementary situation, she isn't fit for office.

[Merryland]

39. she's labyrinthian in character...

[Herman4747]

54. Was she supposed to LIE?

But that comes natural to her.

[Jester Messiah]

66. Wow. What would she have to do before you stopped defending her?

Shoot a puppy in front of a class of grade schoolers? No matter what stupid, boneheaded, or just slimy double-dealing thing she does, here you'll be to excuse it.

[mikehiggins]

71. And Hitler opened a conversation about European anti-semetism.

Yeah, I know. I'll probably get alerted and blocked and/or banned or whatever.

I might as well go for broke.

I will not vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a liar. Those people who distrust her every word are, as far as I can tell, absolutely correct. There are no standards, no limits she will not go past for a momentary advantage in her crusade for the White House.

I have dealt with politicians like her all my life. All that matters is winning and, like Trump, she doesn't care what she (and her equally unethical surrogates) say as long as it helps the campaign.

The Reagans did diddly-squat to help people infected with aids. BULLSHIT.

And everyone who reads this, whether a Sanders supporter or a Clinton supporter, KNOWS that.

If you can turn a blind eye to this you really should take a look in the mirror and see what kind of a person you have become.

Okay. Let loose the dogs of war (or alert me)

[840high]

72. Oh please, people, why lie?

[Bluenorthwest]

14. Ronald and Nancy Reagan Ignored the AIDS Crisis and You Know It, Hillary Clinton

"The very first appearance of AIDS in the media happened in 1981 in the New York Times in an article called "Rare Cancer Seen in 41 Homosexuals." In a now-infamous press conference in October 1982, Reagan's deputy press secretary Larry Speakes laughed when he received the first public question about the AIDS epidemic — and what followed was what many people might call the "plague years" of the AIDS epidemic. In 1985, Reagan asked about "AIDS" to reporters in a press conference about AIDS research.

"What's AIDS?" Speakes asked when the journalist, Lester Kinsolving, asked about government response to the epidemic.

"It's known as the 'gay plague,'" Kinsolving replied.

The room laughs and cracks jokes about whether anyone in the room has it."
http://mic.com/articles/137718/ronald-and-nancy-reagan-ignored-the-aids-crisis-and-you-know-it-hillary-clinton#.CQysu1sAp

[Jackie Wilson Said]

32. And she wont be the last in attempting to rewrite history for the Reagan's.

[Utopian Leftist]

15. Hillary should save her respect for someone who deserves it.

The Rayguns could not say the word "gay" until their "close" friend Rock Hudson (who begged her to help him get into a treatment program) died of AIDS.

I remember it well, I am a gay man who survived the plague, watching while friends died around me like flies. And I remember that the Reagans did as little as humanly possible.

NEVER FORGET THAT SILENCE EQUALS DEATH!

[Jackie Wilson Said]

35. The American people owe gay Americans an apology for allowing that to happen.

All Americans owe the families and friends of the deceased an apology, at a minimum.

We elected the Reagan's and reelected them.

[TM99]

58. The American politicians at the time

are the ones who truly need to apologize and should be the ones to start it.

If Clinton wants to truly apologize she should start by saying why she did nothing in the 1980's to help.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

64. No, we all owe an apology. This is mine, I apologize in other more meaningful ways

as well.

[TM99]

65. I think many do.

But many do not. I couldn't vote against Reagan due to my age his first term but voted against him his second. I worked actively with and for AIDS patients. I know many who did and were appalled at the ways the Reagan administration were denying the reality of the crisis.

[rhett o rick]

20. This is Clinton rhetoric.

"And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan–in particular Mrs. Reagan–we started a national conversation when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it."

Because of Mrs. Reagan "we" started a conversation about aids. So what did Mrs. Reagan do to prompt the conversation? Was it good? Not likely. Maybe H. Clinton means, because of the Reagans indifference to the problem, that started the "conversation". But then the question is, who started the conversation and was it meaningful.

[Raster]

21. What a fucking lie!

[Autumn]

24. Real fucking effective.

This infuriates me. Hillary could have talked about Nancy's Alzheimer's advocacy. But to pull out a lie so hurtful and offensive is lacking in human decency to those of us who lost loved ones to AIDS. We are well aware of their actions on HIV/AIDS.

[winter is coming]

25. Is that the sort of "effective low-key advocacy" she'll use to rein in Wall Street?

[PoliticAverse]

26. She was suppose to wait for the general election for the Reagan-praising. n/t

[AtomicKitten]

27. Wow. That is truly offensive.

The woman is tone-deaf.

[H2O Man]

29. Bullshit.

Any advocacy Nancy did was so "low-key" that no one heard it. People were dying, and they turned their heads the other way.

[malthaussen]

63. More evidence of the theory we were discussing yesterday...

... fatigue is beginning to make Mrs Clinton make errors. This is really a classic unforced error, because I can't see any way she would benefit from it.

-- Mal

[H2O Man]

68. Good point.

My cousin and I were just discussing it on the phone. It is really offensive.

[BlueMTexpat]

31. This is simply not "revisionist

bullshit" as scads of DU OPs are arguing.

What does seem to be true is that when the Reagan administration eventually did decide to respond to the AIDS crisis, Nancy Reagan was among the influential administration figures pushing for that decision.

"I think that she deserves credit for opening up the AIDS money," historian Allida Black told PBS in 2011, saying that along with Koop the first lady pressed the president and the secretary of health and human services to allocate research funding to HIV/AIDS issues.

"But," Black continued, "I could never say that without saying they never would have waited this long" if not for the perception that the disease was a problem for gay men.

In the same PBS segment, Nancy's son, Ron Reagan, likewise portrays his mother as an important progressive force on AIDS issues inside the Reagan administration.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11208192/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids

[Kelvin Mace]

38. In my opinion, you don't get credit

for doing what's right under duress.

[BlueMTexpat]

40. Well - it seems that

Nancy was the "progressive" in the Reagan Admin. Hillary overstated that. That's all.

CDS is very strong on DU.

For your own sake, I hope that you never have your words/actions judged by anyone who is as inflexible as you seem to be.

[Kelvin Mace]

42. She didn't "overstate it",

she flat out contradicted known reality. So, either she was inexcusably ignorant, or shamelessly pandering to Reagan worshipers.

CES (Clinton Enablement Syndrome) also seems rampant in some quarters on DU.

As to being judged harshly, I have been many times.

[BlueMTexpat]

43. Well, you are determined to

cast her in the worst light possible. You might want to check this out. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/11/11208192/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids

Just where will Hillary-haters go when the penny finally drops?

[Kelvin Mace]

46. She did it to herself

She didn't have to praised Nancy for something she not only didn't do, but did the opposite of.

Yes, I read the article, especially these parts:

During these early years of the crisis, the White House's main reaction was to literally laugh off questions about whether anything should be done.

Nancy Reagan went so far as to ignore pleas for help from her friend Rock Hudson, the closeted gay movie star who died of AIDS in the mid-eighties.

Identifying Nancy Reagan as a progressive force inside the Reagan administration on AIDS may be accurate, but it's also setting the bar profoundly low.

But the fact that Clinton would point to Ronald and Nancy Reagan as leaders on a national conversation around AIDS, rather than to the activists themselves, is revealing of her insider perspective on social change.

Did you read it?

[ebayfool]

74. That was a poor choice for a link if you're trying to mitigate Clinton's gaffe.

snip/

Dr. C. Everett Koop, Reagan’s surgeon general, later explained that "intradepartmental politics" kept Reagan out of all AIDS discussions for the first five years of the administration "because transmission of AIDS was understood to be primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs." The president’s advisers, Koop said, "took the stand, ‘They are only getting what they justly deserve.'"



Just where will Bernie-haters go when the penny finally drops?
See how juvenile that looks? Or do you have any self-awareness at all?

[BlueMTexpat]

81. One of my first cousin died from AIDS.

Other family members and friends are HIV-positive. AIDS is not something abstract for me.

Koop's statement doesn't put the lie to what I was trying to show. Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Reagan was no AIDS champion. That he finally recognized that he should change his stand is due in great part to Nancy. Hillary's statement - which I wish that she hadn't said in the way that she did because it was certainly an overstatement - at least has some basis in fact. The Reagan Admin - at LONG LAST - did begin to talk about it and Nancy was instrumental in getting that started. Ron Reagan Jr also says that and he would know firsthand.

By then, however, it was much too late for all too many. You have my full agreement with that.

I would like you to find ONE statement on DU where I ever said anything about Bernie that would indicate that I "hate" him. Otherwise, you should not refer to me as a "Bernie-hater" because that has no basis whatsoever in fact and is exactly the kind of overstatement that you hold against Hillary. I only need to look at this thread to see scads of Hillary-haters however.

Try out some self-awareness yourself before you castigate me.

As for the penny dropping, see what happens on March 15.

[ebayfool]

82. Just where will Hillary-haters go when the penny finally drops? Your statement.

The hope for self awareness was pointing out that tag you have had on many of your posts, by reversing it so you could see how it looks by changing Bernie to Hillary.

Apparently, that whooshed right over your head.

Compared side by side:


you -
Just where will Hillary-haters go when the penny finally drops?

me -
Just where will Bernie-haters go when the penny finally drops?
See how juvenile that looks? Or do you have any self-awareness at all?

And I try again:

you -
Otherwise, you should not refer to me as a "Bernie-hater" because that has no basis whatsoever in fact and is exactly the kind of overstatement that you hold against Hillary.

me -
Otherwise, you should not refer to me as a "Hillary-hater" because that has no basis whatsoever in fact and is exactly the kind of overstatement that you hold against Bernie.


Do you not see this? Really?

[BlueMTexpat]

83. Actually, what I see most

is that you are well-named. Buh-bye.

[ebayfool]

85. Okie-dokie! Been real ... nice, having an honest conversation with you. Or something. n/t

[spooky3]

41. Per the same site, she apologized for this.

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/hillary-clinton-apologizes-praising-reagans-hiv-aids/

[Warren DeMontague]

45. low key? More like no key.

[DeGreg]

47. That's the same kind of advocacy Hillary will give...

to all things real Democrats care about, to all things progressive, to all things peaceful, to all things that help working families, etc,--should she win. That quote makes sense when you think about it -- same as "incremental change."

[Dont call me Shirley]

48. So blaming people for their disease is now low-key advocacy?! WTF!

[PatrynXX]

51. gonna go down as the Brian Williams syndrome

even though he really did misremember. this one sounds like total B fucking S

[UglyGreed]

52. The Administration made jokes

about people dying and she praised their effort SMH

[liberalnarb]

55. Low key was the last thing we needed. She should have walked right up to her piece of shit husband

and smacked him in the face for ignoring the aides epidemic. Now, that would be advocacy

[SHRED]

56. I'm no Nancy Reagan fan

She favored locking up cannabis consumers.
Fuck her and her fucked up husband.
Good riddance.

[Waiting For Everyman]

57. Why doesn't Hillary just become a Repub?

Clearly she likes them so much, she remakes history in her head for them. She should just go ahead and take the plunge and run as an R. Why keep up the pretense?

I'm afraid to think what other seemingly simple things she might screw up next.

[Arugula Latte]

59. Just when I think she can't get any more abhorrent...

I started this campaign season trying to just resign myself to a Clinton nomination but now I'm pretty much at abject loathing for the woman. ... Worst. Candidate. Ever.

[Chef Eric]

62. How repulsive.

Bernie Sanders better win the nomination, because the more Hillary Clinton lies, the less electable she will be in the general election.

[Enthusiast]

73. WTF, indeed!

Sometimes she gets confused in her pandering.

[IllinoisLabour]

75. Wasn't Nancy's approach to say

"Whatever; it's only a problem for those icky homos"?

[Betty Karlson]

76. I find it so difficult to react in a way that doesn't break the TOS.

A whole lot of one-syllable expletives are begging to be typed. All I can say is: it is worthy of Clinton to say such things.

[DonCoquixote]

78. on the one hand

I can see where some have said that she had to think of "something nice" and instead botched it, but that sort of botch, while deserving of WTF's and Rasberries, does not mean she is a bigot, nor does it erase the works she has done for LGBT.

However, when you have someone selling themselves on EXPERIENCE and SAVVY, this is frankly awful. I know that people feel they have to praise Reagan because all those fat,tasty, yummy Reagan Democrats that supposedly determine all our elections. Yes, I was mad when Obama praised Reagan. However, this reflects at the very least, a serious tone deafness, that comes from arrogance. Hillary could have said something perfectly pablum, like "Today, millions of Americans who admired Nancy Reagan mourn." Yes, saccharine, pablum, not not it any way TOXIC. She would be forgive for breaking out the saccharine in a moment where you know the GOP was ready to spring a trap, which would have made those Reagan Democrats go from fattened cattle to a stampede. But this doe not wash away that when you mention AIDS, specifically the era when Reagan was at the helm, and where frankly many of his buddies where in churches speaking of AIDS as God's will, you are speaking of something that yes, is still a sore spot of many LGBT. When you say anything praiseworthy of the Reagan Era in regards to the way they handled AIDS, you might as well be crushing a cigarette butt on the grave of the dead. Even if Hillary was trying to be Machiavellian, did she not have enough sense to realize that praising Reagan's handling of AIDS might as well slap the LGBT, after the Democrats worked hard to mend fences after "don't ask dont' tell" and Obama having to "evolve" to support gay marriage? Remember how DU had signatures that said "The GAYTM is closed!"

Hillary, the one message you do not need to show is the idea that, for all the wooing of African Americans (remember when aids was thought to be a black disease, and the right wing went praise god?) LGBTS, and others, that the party really wants it prodigal children, the Reagan democrats, and loves them more than the kids who are actually taking care of her. We are the ones that keep the party fed, warm, and healthy, yet she still cries for her beloved prodigal sons. You might not have meant to send that message, but as a leader, you are supposed to be the self aware one. Those working class boys have hitched their wagon to Trump, so please please, get better advisors to tell you things you NEED to hear.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz did not lose power the last time she ran your campaign into the ditch. Neither did Mark Penn. and Lloyd Blankfeld and Lynn Rothschild will gladly be busy making deals with Trump if you lose, the way fake friends always do. Listen to those who have been with you, and realize those are the friends you need to keep. The Reagan Democrats will pull the football, again, because they know they are the kids the elephant and donkey have to feed candy.

[Zorra]

79. Grrrr! 'Clinton called to mind “how difficult it was to talk about HIV/AIDS”

in the 80's"...“And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan–in particular Mrs. Reagan–we started a national conversation when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it."

Wow. We now know what Clinton really thinks about our LGBT family.

"We're NOBODY".

Just drop out of the race now, Hillary.

[bigwillq]

80. I'm not with Her.

She is just disgusting.

[bigwillq]

84. Kick (nt)