Wow !!! - Bernie Sanders Aims For Another Big Upset... In Florida - Inquisitr

[WillyT]

Bernie Sanders Aims For Another Big Upset In Florida, And The Numbers Show He’s On The Way — On Thursday His Rally Drew 9,000 In Tampa, Clinton’s Had Just 600
Nathan Francis - Inquisitr
March 11, 2016



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Bernie Sanders wants to spark a “political revolution” in Florida, and if the numbers this week are any indication, he’s well on his way.

Fresh off a huge upset win over Hillary Clinton in Michigan, Sanders has shifted his focus to Florida and the important race that will take place there next Tuesday. Florida had been seen as a safe Clinton win, but after Sanders overcame a 20-point deficit to take Michigan, there are seemingly no easy wins, and the coming days are seen as critical.

If the rallies held there this week are any indication, Bernie Sanders is the one with all the momentum. On Thursday, both candidates touched down in Tampa for rallies, and the differences were stark. Bernie Sanders drew 9,000 people to the Florida State Fairgrounds, a group that Florida Politics called “a multicultural mix of citizens.”

Hillary Clinton’s rally, meanwhile, drew just 600 people to her midday rally.

Sanders spoke of a political revolution in Florida, noting that enthusiasm and a huge turnout will be needed if he is to pull off another big upset.

“On Tuesday there is going to be a very important primary here in Florida,” Sanders told the huge crowds at Expo Hall. “If there is a large voter turnout, we will win.”

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[ScreamingMeemie]

1. I birthed one of Bernie's FL voters, and she is super excited.

[Punkingal]

7. Tell her to get her friends excited, too!

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. I don't have to.

She was raised right.
Hard to believe she is 26

[roguevalley]

25. somebody better get a crow pie ready for Kos. Looks like he's going to eat it. :D:D:D

[debunction.junction]

37. Please God, let it be true!

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. Crow fricased, with a fine California wine

and a side of mashed potatoes and vegies. See, I am nice that way.

[forest444]

56. Kudos to you, ScreamingMeemie.

Might I suggest describing Bernie in the tradition of that great Floridian liberal, Claude Pepper.

Older voters in Florida will appreciate that especially.

He and Bernie even share a birthday!

[ChiciB1]

53. I Birthed TWO & They Birthed Two More... I Really Wanted To Be There

but have been having too many back problems. I also know more people who didn't get there, so there would have been even more. So many people just weren't able to attend.

I know I missed a GREAT Opportunity, but at least reading ALL the articles about the crowds he's drawing really makes me PROUD!

THEY, TPTB keep telling us Hillary WILL WIN Florida! If she does, I call FOUL! Sorry, I'm just seeing too much enthusiasm even here in my RED County!

[vanlassie]

68. Thank all you BIRTHERS!

[bvf]

70. Thread winner. n/t

[cui bono]

136. Haha!!!

.

[marions ghost]

2. Could he really pull off an upset in Florida?

...!

[Recursion]

88. Doubtful; it's a closed primary

I mean, yeah, on any given Tuesday and whatever, but a closed primary, in the deep south, with Clinton polling 30 points ahead, I wouldn't put money on it.

[marions ghost]

112. polls seem unreliable

...I guess we'll see what the voters actually do.

[KPN]

131. Hillary needs to take Florida by a large margin

(15-30 points) to dampen Bernie's momentum. We shall see.

[laruemtt]

3. Believe!

[SheilaT]

4. I have been assured that because Florida is a closed primary

there is no way he can possibly win. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511465290

I think a lot of people who think this way are in for a huge surprise.

[closeupready]

12. Yes. Hillary has a greater than 99% chance of winning.

So Bernie should drop out now, and endorse her, case closed, end of story.

[SheilaT]

19. Yep, just like in Michigan

Too bad he lost so badly there.

[Duckfan]

104. Are we talking about Nate "99%" Silver?

I've heard that name somewhere.

[demwing]

17. My anecdotal evidence

I live in Gulfport, a small beach town in the greater St Petersburg area. We have a history of voting blue.

I have seen lots of Republican stickers and signs, a few Bernie signs, and nothing for Clinton, anywhere. If Clinton gets the nomination, the state will probably go Red. I see none of the Clinton enthusiasm that her poll #s would indicate.

[LiberalArkie]

36. You know her campaign normally only polls bankers.

[Stevepol]

40. You probably won't see any Clinton enthusiasm, but

it the voting machines are programmed to provide the sufficient tilt as usual, it won't make much difference. FL is a case where, if the vote could be audited by counting the actual paper ballots, there would be some really surprising discoveries I think.

In order to win, Bernie will have to win by something like 12% I'm guessing.

I hope my pessimism is uncalled for. I'm pulling for him, but the fix is in all over the country I'm afraid.

[demwing]

51. Tell that to MI and MN

[lostnfound]

52. Sadly I think you are right. They stole 5% from Kerry shifted to bush

I suspect the central tabulators. It seemed correlated to software versions.

[ChiciB1]

71. Well, I HAVE Worked The Polls... AND Things DO Happen...

I have seen it myself. Two different lock boxes at the end of the day have ALWAYS made me wonder. When the paper is fed into machines, they DO get kicked out and then set aside. At the end of the day they get locked up separately & I've never gotten a good answer about EXACTLY what really happens. They say they'll be counted, but who knows?

AND, these machines have been hacked, there is proof of this. FSTV has been running a 2 part program on machine voting and the whole sordid story!

[zentrum]

73. My family in California

……both north and south has never seen a Clinton sticker. Not one time. They do see Bernie stickers—not a lot but more and more of them every week and he's the only one they do see.

They also see "Overturn Citizen's United" stickers. These are probably Bernie supporters since Hillary exemplifies the use of Citizen's United.

[KPN]

132. My sister lives in Michigan

and she said the identical thing to me leading into their primary last Tuesday. So we shall see. Go Bernie!

[NWCorona]

46. Bernie definitely will have a tougher time with Florida with it being closed

But there has been a flurry of party registrations before the deadline.

I feel really good!

[monmouth4]

49. I was registered as an I for many years. I re-registered as a Dem to be ready for this. I wasn't

alone..

[Octafish]

5. Democracy In Action.

Thanks for the heads-up on Florida, WillyT!

What an exciting time to be a Democrat! Two great candidates! Go Team!

[Marr]

6. Get ready for some serious electioneering antics from DWS in Florida. /nt

[GoneFishin]

11. That's for sure.

[GoneFishin]

8. Really? Only 600? Was it a secret rally?

[kath]

9. classified as Top Secret.

[Jester Messiah]

55. So you heard about it via email then?

[agracie]

134. But, of course, it was not Top Secret to start with...

[rhett o rick]

14. I think it was $1,000 a hot dog. nm

[GoneFishin]

18. The relish is another $1700. That's where they really get you.

[rhett o rick]

26. yep

[azurnoir]

45. oh my I guess chili and cheese must be the superpaced stuff then

[daleanime]

50. ......

[Ken Burch]

84. And if you have to ask how much the mustard is....

[Duckfan]

105. The Hot Dog must have been developed by The Pentagon....

...along with the $500 toilet seat.

[Karma13612]

121. LOL. +100. Eom

[Segami]

21. BWHAHAHAHAHA......

[BernieforPres2016]

29. NPR claimed 1200 and played clips of it yesterday afternoon on Some Things Considered

but the venue doesn't even seat that many.

NPR said nothing about Bernie also being in Florida and drawing 9000 at one of the 3 events he did yesterday in Florida.

My guess is that Hillary likes to play to small venues and small crowds to keep the security tight and make sure there aren't any hecklers.

[GoneFishin]

86. Sounds like All Things Cherry-Picked has gone down hill a lot since I used to listen to it.

Republican ideas suck so bad that they spend all of their resources trying to tilt the playing field, like the way they polluted NPR and Public Television.

[Ruby the Liberal]

120. Bernie's rally wasn't until last night

Hard to report on something that hadn't happened yet.

[BernieforPres2016]

129. Sorry, you're full of it

Bernie did 3 rallies in Florida on Thursday, including one to 9000 people that took place hours before the NPR report on Hillary's speech in Tampa. Try again, Hillary shill.

[Ruby the Liberal]

130. LOL!

[sarge43]

38. An expensive one n/t

[Lizzie Poppet]

10. I'd be ecstatic if this happened, but...

...doesn't Bernie pretty much always out-draw Hillary by a mile at these kinds of rallies?

Still...so many young voters! They are NOT polled (most of the polls are of "likely voters," and that usually means "voted in the last two election), eliminating the entire 18-26 crowd. It will take spectacular turnout from this demographic to offset Hillary's AA advantage alone, so I'm doubtful it can be enough...but we'll see!

[Optimism]

24. I really wish ...

that we wouldn't refer to the black vote as some sort of monolithic vote-as-one inevitable block.

I realize (I guess) that this is based for the most part on how blacks (or older women, or gays, or Millennials, etc) have tended to vote in specific past elections, but it's still pretty presumptuous, and in my mind, somewhat disrespectful ?! I know I'm probably being idealistic and all, but the sooner we get away from talking about voters in terms of 'groups' (and their expected voting patterns), and instead talk of them as individuals, well ... the better.

The one label I'm sort of okay with is 'informed' and 'uninformed' , because that's something we can actually change. Skin color, age, sexual orientation, gender ... not so much.

Anyway, let's go INFORMED VOTERS for BERNIE !!

[Lizzie Poppet]

27. Well...the same can be said about the young vote. They're not in lockstep, either.

But the fact remains that in this primary, black voters have broken for Hillary by a significant margin, just as young voters have overwhelmingly broken for Bernie. Not taking this data into account would be a mistake, even for us armchair "pundits" at DU (and certainly by the campaigns).

[jwirr]

13. He's got a 20,000 crowd wherever in Florida he is today.

Please Florida pull it off.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. isnt Debbie Wasserman Schultz's charm offensive helping Hillary?

I mean, she already insulted Millennials and went to the times demanding longer prison sentences for pot smokers.

What other help can she offer?

[azurnoir]

47. I thought the her charm part was her support of pay day loan companies

where she's helping those working folk make from check to check

[Warren DeMontague]

97. Another stunningly humane position

From a true champeen of progressivism.

[Gore1FL]

99. DWS is to the Democratic Party as Nancy Reagan was to AIDS research.

Hillary might have even agreed with that at one point today.

[Uncle Joe]

20. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, WillyT.

[Segami]

22. Kick!

[bobbobbins01]

23. Phonebank please!

If every Bernie supporter did this, we'd have won by now. If you can't phonebank for whatever reason, look into facebanking...it might even be more effective. But the point is, voting isn't enough, we need everyone to be proactive.

[Armstead]

28. Facebanking?

[retrowire]

30. It's where you smash your face into a bank.

I don't know what it has to do with campaigning but, there you go. lol jk

[Armstead]

31. I'm not THAT loyal to Bernie LOL

[retrowire]

34. LOL nt

[bobbobbins01]

39. Yes, many people are finding it more effective than phone banking...info below:

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/wiki/facebanking#butteal

[dana_b]

59. I think that's cool especially for people who don't have

land lines. Phone banking may be better for more... traditional folks.

[bobbobbins01]

67. Yeah, I'd much rather facebank...unfortunately I don't have facebook

And I'm a web developer! People are always asking me to fix their facebook shit, and I'm lost. Maybe its improved since I last touched it, but they have a terrible terrible UI. I'm really surprised people didn't jump ship long ago just based on that.

[dana_b]

58. I'm signed up for tomorrow and Sunday

I've not done it yet so I am OVERdue.

[highprincipleswork]

32. I love this. We need to get out the vote!!! Phonebanking for Bernie is easy. Make a difference.

[Vattel]

33. He will face massive lying and distortion, but I hope he can at least end up close.

[99Forever]

35. K.R

[Land of Enchantment]

41. Cautiously optimistic because

of the demographics. The elderly cannot wait in line for hours to attend rallies, the young can. The snowbird population is growing daily and is presently just under 20%. There are counties in Florida where HALF the population is 55 and over. Florida is a Winner Take All State and that worries me.

http://smartblogs.com/leadership/2012/11/05/examining-floridas-political-leanings/

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

61. I didn't think any states were winner take all for democrats

[Land of Enchantment]

74. There are several

this is the list I got from Wiki:

Florida, Missouri and Ohio---ALL on Tuesday the 15th

Illinois is Mixed--Some proportional some Winner Take all Counties--ALSO Tuesday 15th

Arizona on March 22

Wisconsin on April 5

Delaware and Maryland on April 26

Indiana on May 3

California, Montana, South Dakota and NJ on June 7

I can't find the link but will keep looking for it.

[Duckfan]

108. New Mexico is also June 7

[Land of Enchantment]

79. Finally found the link...

here ya go!

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-presidential-primary-schedule-calendar/

It's scary there are so many.

[druidity33]

81. Those are Republican Primaries, not Democratic.

The website you linked to lists both. Only the Republican column says WTA (Winner Take All).

;0

[Land of Enchantment]

89. OMG, You are right and I wass wrong and

I am so sorry but it it is a great relief. I bookmarked and printed it a few days after I had gone for my annual physical and brought home the flu. I found a new link that clarifies everything..humble huuuuge apologies.

I've been staring at the print outs and trying to find a path cause I doubt Bernie can get Florida but pretty sure he will take the rust belt and when he gets out here it is fertile ground.

https://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_nominations:_calendar_and_delegate_rules


Best regards.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

83. I think you are looking at the R column

The D column doesn't have any 'P' or 'WTA' because they are all proportional.

[Land of Enchantment]

92. I was wrong. I replied below

and please accept my apologies. It was a scary scenario and I am sorry for putting misinformation out there. It's a relief to be wrong.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

96. No problem!

[roguevalley]

76. what about the Jewish vote?

[Land of Enchantment]

77. It will probably help

but I can't find any recent data on the demographics. I've spent a lot of time there (family) and have concerns but am hopeful the Latino voters and millennials make their presence known.

[Duckfan]

109. Well if there is a place in Florida called "Milk and Cookies"

I certainly would like to live there.

Sounds like a favorable area for Bernie!

[MADem]

106. Dem primaries are proportional. GOP primaries are winner take all. nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

142. Yes

[cui bono]

138. Snowbird? n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

42. Bernie Revolution is on a roll!

[lark]

43. I'm early voting tomorrow

and Sanders will be my choice. Can't wait!! It'd be so awesome if Bernie could usurp Florida, don't think the media could ignore him then, but I'm sure Faux Snooze would. I don't really consider them media, they are more like RW entertainment.

[pdsimdars]

44. Aaaarrrrgh!

I don't know who is in charge of his Florida campaign but they aren't that good. I give a regular monthly donation so I assume they have my email address when I signed up.
Someone on their campaign should have known you had to be registered as a Democrat to vote in the primary, but I was never told that. They should have emailed me. When I heard about it on one of the shows I listen to on the internet, I called the county government but it was too late.
I hope there are enough Democrats to carry him over the top, but if I am any indication of how aware they are of independents . . . . oops

[djean111]

48. My grandson re-registered as a Democrat a while back so he could vote for Bernie.

Reddit was really clear about which primaries were closed.
We are in Florida, and we both voted for Bernie today, early voting at the Post Office!

[dana_b]

57. It's a closed primary though, right??

I have to admit that I have my doubts on this one. Pretty big doubts BUT I would love it if he could close that big gap.

[Cryptoad]

60. Yet the Math says there is NO Path to Victory for Bern.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

64. Who's math? It kind of depends on how things play out.

But keep depending on phantom math if it makes you feel better.

[potone]

115. It's the math that's based on the states that haven't voted yet.

I'm not sure what that is called: "wishful math", "aspirational math", "God, please–let this–come–true math" ?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

123. Gotcha!

[KPN]

133. Keep telling yourselves that.

It's like a self-inflicted rope-a-dope.

[cui bono]

139. Is that Rove's "new math"? The math that you dare not show?

Spell it out if you want to make a point.

.

[Godhumor]

62. Good for him for fighting for every delegate, but

There is a difference in maximizing in loss versus expecting to win.

If he wants states instead of delegates, he should probably be looking at Missouri and Ohio as his best places for an upset.

[AzDar]

63. Oh Lord, I HOPE so! I am sort of worried that they are trying to inflate expectations and then paint

$Hillary as "The Comeback Kid"...


Let's DO THIS, Florida!!

[Fritz Walter]

65. First Coast (NE FL) Is feeling the Bern

I stopped by the Bernie HQ on Main Street in Jacksonville earlier this week to pick up and drop off.
My goal was to pick up yard signs and drop off a donation. They were out of yard signs -- they flew out the door within hours of the office opening just a couple days prior. That was disappointing for me, but encouraging regarding momentum after the Michigan primary and especially after the latest debate. So instead of planting multiple signs at some of the busiest intersections, we improvised: I came away with two cardboard signs that I now proudly display on my block.
The enthusiasm of the people staffing the office more than made up for lack of weatherproof signage.
My only regret is that my current job situation prevents me from helping with the much-needed canvassing. That's why I gave money.

[WillyT]

82. Thank You For That !!!

[appalachiablue]

66. K & R Go for Bernie Sunshine state!

[tabasco]

69. Sanders is campaigning like he wants to get elected.

Clinton is campaigning like somebody who thinks she has the job.

[zentrum]

72. Florida voting machines...

…are so suspect. I'm pretty sure our guy can create an upset, but I wonder who will count the votes?

[quaker bill]

117. They have been replaced

we use optical scan paper ballots now. There is a paper trail. There is usually one e-terminal provided for handicap access. I have never seen it used.

[mvd]

75. After Michigan, I believe!

Hoping for a good day on Tuesday! K&R

[jillan]

78. The crowds in Florida have been Rowdy! from what I have seen. Love it!!

[George II]

80. Let's revisit this on Wednesday morning.

[OhZone]

87. It's a closed primary so nope. nt

[WillyT]

90. So Let Me Ask You This...

You don't think the people, elected officials, the Democratic Party, do not see the ground moving under their feet ???

You don't think that the side of the bread that was previously buttered, is about to be buttered elsewhere ?

Politicians will jump at ANY chance to be on the side of a political winner.

Remember all the Super-Delegates that were for Clinton in 2008... until they weren't ?

[OhZone]

93. Um. No.

She's way ahead in delegates even without the supers. She's way ahead in actual votes.

Remember Obama is a Democrat. Hilly and Barack have been all about the party. Supers aren't going to jump ship easily for someone who has spoken so ill of their party, especially since he's still running as an Independent for his reelection campaign.

And Bernie has very little path to the nomination mathematically.

Oh well.

[WillyT]

94. Here... Have A Beer Or Two... You're Gonna Need Them...

[OhZone]

95. I prefer box wine! hahaha nt

[ebayfool]

122. Ha! In my 'day' we referred to box wine as "spo-dio-do". Killer headaches free with the box!

Please reconsider the beer

[OhZone]

125. Why not both? haha

[ebayfool]

127. Oh my aching head! I'm too old for that, I'll stick to a nice sip o' Glenfiddich with my feets up!

But you can take both for my good old days. Keep the painkillers handy and drink lotsa water before bed, it helps!

[Duckfan]

110. Sounds like someone needs to contact Professor Nate Silver

He's really good with math-----even if it's wrong.

[AlbertCat]

113. has very little path to the nomination

He doesn't need a big path.

It's not over so stop pretending it is.

[quaker bill]

118. True but

you probably did not read all the stories about the large lines to change party affiliation 6 weeks ago. It set records. A portion of this was indy's going R to back Trump, but a very large chunk was indy's, greens, and such going D to back Bernie.

The primary is closed, but the electorate knew this and accommodated it.

[Enthusiast]

91. Kicked and recommended to the Max!

[polichick]

98. A beautiful sight!

[WillyT]

103. If These Things Get Any Bigger... We're Gonna Be Playing "Where's Bernie ???"

As Opposed To "Where's Waldo ???"

[polichick]

141. HA! :)

[Larkspur]

100. My brother in St Petersburg already sent in his ballot and voted for Bernie!!!!

[billhicks76]

101. Don't Let Her Rig It

[d_legendary1]

102. Already have a few people who voted for Bernie

Every vote counts! Go Sanders!!!!

[Lorien]

107. Attended the rally yesterday and cast my vote for him today!

a cop at the rally said to me "Everyone here has been so nice! It's a big change from that Trump rally we worked; people there were not so nice."

[Spitfire of ATJ]

111. She needs to book a STADIUM....

She could fill it with fake Twitter followers.

[Ken Burch]

116. Or thousands of Will.i.am. holograms

[Lunabell]

114. Early voted in Florida!

Guess who I picked? LOL I was so happy to do it!

[Betty Karlson]

119. Given that Clinton now thinks the Reagans "helped" AIDS victims,

I hope he will BURY Clinton in Florida and everywhere else. That clueless woman needs to hide her face in shame, and never be anywhere near any modicum of political decision-making, ever again.

[gordyfl]

124. I Believe Bernie Did Not Campaign on the East Coast - From Jacksonville on Down

That's where the many retirees live. Seniors. Probably Clinton supporters. So, I'm not getting my hopes up too high, yet. Just crossing my fingers.

[Tree Frog]

126. He needs Florida News Reporting

How to get him on the Florida news outlets?

When people learn about Bernie....
He Wins!

[warrprayer]

128. kick and rec n/t

[LWolf]

135. K & R

[IllinoisLabour]

137. Closed primary in the south, though...

It'd be fantastic, but no way. The deck is just too stacked for Hillary in Florida.

Bernie strength lies in being the guy who brings indies into the party, but they're being kept out here.

[bvar22]

140. 600? for Ms. Inevitable?

1/2 of those would be Media (paid to cover the rally),
and Hillary Campaign Workers and Security, also paid to attend.

[GusBob]

143. He'll ya

[NCTraveler]

144. .

[firebrand80]

145. oops nt

[WillyT]

156. There's Nothing I Can Do About The Stupidity Of Others...

Congrats... you gave us Trump.

[firebrand80]

157. I did what now? nt

[BKH70041]

159. Then just focus on your own.

[JTFrog]

161. Zing! n/t

[ucrdem]

146. I'm calling it RIGHT NOW for Sanders and Rubio.

[beaglelover]

147. Oops.

[randome]

148. Why would crowd numbers mean the same as voting preferences?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

[Alfresco]

149. But the crowds, the crowds, the crowds. :-)

[PeaceNikki]

150. Lol @ Inquisitr

[Bobbie Jo]

151. Not today.

[asuhornets]

158. LOL...n/t

[sagat]

152. lol

[grossproffit]

153. It's gonna be HUGE!

[Spazito]

154. Ummmm....

Crowd size means squat as proven tonight in BIG numbers in the voting booth, those numbers actually count.

[Number23]

160. Just like the 600 recs for the "standing right behind you" OP didn't affect a damn thing

outside of DU??!!

Who knew that crowd numbers and recs weren't great measures for determining success??

[Spazito]

162. Exactly!

Ron Paul had YUUUGE crowds too and look where he is now, lol.

[bettyellen]

155. KICk!