Clintons, Contras and Cocaine (Jeffrey St. Clair-Alexander Cockburn March 11, 2016 CounterPunch)

[bobthedrummer]

This article focuses on Jackson Stephens and his son Warren longtime Clinton donors/supporters.

"Just as the BCCI trail heads back towards Arkansas and a prime cash register for the Clintons, so too does a long-running and explosive scandal within the state, involving money-laundering, drug-running and support for right-wing insurgents backed by the CIA."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/11/clintons-contras-and-cocaine

We have discussed BCCI for many years here-it's still a vital topic, isn't it?

[DeGreg]

1. Been waiting for this to come up...

Haven't been here long at all...(no i did not search the hell out the site just to prevent people from calling out because I was a newbie, or didn't catch up enough, etc.,) been holding my tongue from screaming MENA!
Figured I'd be run off as the "kook" that I am.

I'm in you're drum circle Bob, carry on...

[bobthedrummer]

3. I play a full kit but we can jam DeGreg. Welcome to DU!

[iAZZZo]

9. new member as well; welcome

yep, damned mena!

another post read here in the last week or so mentioned jonathan kwitny and it jogged the memory back to the eighties and that whole iran/contra/cocaine/guns/arkansas/cia confluence

you're probably familiar with the colloquy in in the following vid link (as an aside, sure do miss ms. mcclendon and her ilk)

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also, one more: then cia director john deutch (put on the spot here by mike ruppert) was ultimately pardoned by bill clinton in 2000 for having "classified" (confidential/secret/top secret) content on his personal computer. predicament sounds familiar........

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[UglyGreed]

22. What a freaking mess

[bobthedrummer]

30. +1

[bobthedrummer]

120. His Story Is Her Story-then there is the truth which is ridiculed by the "enchanted" to this day

the ridicule is often "promoted" by people like senior Clinton advisor and HRC's 2008 Campaign Manager Maggie Williams

Maggie Williams (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Williams

[wyldwolf]

64. VINCE FOSTER!!!!!

[bobthedrummer]

126. Dead men CAN tell tales today-can't they, old friend?

[TheBlackAdder]

111. If the proper rocks in the stream are overturned, the nuggets will expose themselves.

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As a poli-sci guy, that's all I'm going to say.

Other than, it's best to have an EDU account to do your research.


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[Doctor_J]

2. For the HRC members who swear that I "hate" Hillary...

I don't. But there is just way too much of THIS type thing for me to support her. She's as deep into the swill of our deep state as the Bush family is. I can't in good conscience vote to continue this.

[bobthedrummer]

4. There it is. n/t

[rhett o rick]

6. IMO the Deep State "encouraged" Pres Obama to appoint Clinton as SoS. Just sayin'. nm

[bobthedrummer]

13. On a side note-it was truly quite a "gathering" at Nancy Reagan's services yesterday-war criminals

and all. Some of them directly linked to BCCI, the House of Saud (Jim Baker et al) and quite a few other unindicted felons and traitors. Always "wheeling and dealing". Their eulogies sickened me

[rhett o rick]

14. The Ruling Class is bipartisan and they stick together. nm

[AzDar]

16. ^ This.

[bobthedrummer]

17. Here's an old tune that I dedicate to them all...because there is something in the air indeed.

[AzDar]

18. Perfect.

[bobthedrummer]

19. It could be an anthem, and we have got it together now...

[UglyGreed]

23. +1000

[bobthedrummer]

24. encore...

[rhett o rick]

20. The Ruling Class can't ignore it any longer. But they are dangerous. nm

[bobthedrummer]

32. They are not Spartacus!

[bobthedrummer]

148. They (that have names and histories) sure do, rhett o rick.

[rhett o rick]

150. I would use the "C" word but do take the chance of getting kicked off this supposedly

liberal message board. Conspiracy, there I said it. The Conservatives of our Party don't like to discuss Conspiracies because they prefer to believe their Authoritarian leaders are taking good care of them and anyone dare says different gets a CT burned in their forehead.

But Conspiracies do happen, in fact they are everywhere in politics. And while I don't believe that all of the Wealthy 1% meet and conspire, I do believe they all want more money. And now that the free wealth from natural resources is drying up, they have turned to "acquiring" wealth from others (read stealing). The Iraq War was a great tool to steal wealth from the taxpayers and give it to the wealthy that we bought war materials from. And now some, even Democrats, want to cut SS to pay the debts run up by the War. Oh and we can't forget the greatest theft in history (at least one of them). It was called a Banking Crisis. After all the smoke and mirrors, the 99% were left $5,000,000,000,000 short. No one even flinched. Democrats and Republicons reached across the isle and said good job. So to be clear, this is the business model used. The banksters gambled with each other and lost a lot of wealth. Then they go to our government, those bastards that are supposed to be our representatives and ask for a handout. A $5 trillion dollar hand out. And what did our government do? Bowed and scraped before the mighty Citibank and Goldman-Sachs and gave them a check written on our children's future. Millions of the 99% lost their homes. If it were a natural disaster, they would get help from the government. But our government said "too bad", and has done little to nothing to stop this from happening again.

So did the banksters conspire to steal our money? Well it certainly wasn't a fracking accident.

[KoKo]

58. Senator Diane Feinstein's Secret Meeting between Barack and Hillary...VP Slot?

Remember the speculation on DU about this "Secret Meeting" and whether a deal had been made for Hillary as VP. Feinstein and Schumer seemed to be suggesting this, even thought one report says that Hillary requested the meeting. It was big news as to why they tried to keep it secret. But, after that meeting she did eventually get the SOS position. One could think that an agreement was made at that meeting without being a conspiracy theorist. )

Obama, Clinton Ditch Press for Secret Meeting
By Kate Snow-- ABC News
June 6, 2008

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A stealthy meeting Thursday night between former presidential rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is no longer a secret, but what they discussed — and whether they said the words "vice president" — remains a mystery.

Obama, D-Ill., returned to his Chicago home early this morning, hours after slipping away from his press entourage for a clandestine meeting with Clinton in Washington, D.C.

Clinton, D-N.Y., also eluded the press staked out in front of her Washington mansion to meet with Obama at the home of Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

Feinstein, D-Calif., an early Clinton supporter who has publicly made the case for an Obama-Clinton ticket, told reporters outside the Senate chamber Friday that the meeting took began at about 9 p.m. ET and lasted an hour.

Feinstein said Clinton called her "sometime in the late afternoon" Thursday to set up the meeting and both came with one staffer, but the conversation was just between the two of them in the living room of her Washington home. "There were no press, no staff. They had one person from each campaign that was in my study separately and I guess the security people outside," Feinstein said.

In a rare joint statement Thursday night, the two Democrats said only, "Senator Clinton and Senator Obama met tonight and had a productive discussion about the important work that needs to be done to succeed in November."

Robert Gibbs, Obama's campaign communications director, confirmed the meeting took place, but said, "I don't have details of the substance of the meeting."

Sen. Charles Schumer, Clinton's New York colleague and a strong backer, told "Good Morning America" Friday that the secret meeting was not about the vice presidential slot and instead was "a good … first step in terms of uniting the party."

Schumer made it clear, however, that Clinton is willing to become Obama's veep and at one point he said, "I urge Sen. Obama to consider her very seriously."

"But on the other hand if he chooses someone else, she'll work just as hard for the party in November," Schumer said.

Nomination Fight Ends, Veepstakes Begins

Obama has said that he won't make a quick decision on his running mate.

Asked on Thursday if there was any possibility that he'd pick Clinton as his running mate, Obama said, "I have said before that Senator Clinton would be on anybody's short list. She is an extraordinary talent and a major leader in her party as she showed during this campaign. But I am not going to discuss who is being considered, how they're being considered. We're just not gonna talk about this anymore."

"He'll take his time," Schumer said. "He said to some of us, it's better to do it right than to do it quickly."

Schumer also defended Clinton against criticism that she should have promptly conceded on Tuesday night when Obama won the necessary number of delegates to lock up the Democratic presidential

nomination.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=5012995&page=1

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[Politicalboi]

80. Being VP wouldn't help her as much as SOS

To rake in the BIG bucks. She'd be ready for the WH, but she would have not made nearly as much money. I don't think she ever wanted to be VP.

[KoKo]

84. Bargaining Tool for SOS, which she did win..

I could see the logic of her being pushed for VP given Obama was young and inexperienced..but, I always thought SOS was what she wanted given her "Friends" and she was a Madelyn Albright Disciple...and a "Friend of Kissinger."

I think there was a bargain made there.

[bobthedrummer]

129. Let's overthrow the "conventional wisdom" of all of them KoKo and their rigged "system".

There's only 1 Secret Meeting that I endorse-it's by The National

[vintx]

52. +1

And anyone who's been paying attention should already know this.

[asuhornets]

86. who cares....we don't need you anyway...n/t

[Duppers]

87. ^^ And here we have Hillary's supporters reaction to corruption:

"WHO CARES !"

Wow. Isn't that like Trump's saying his supporters wouldn't care if he shot someone.

[libdem4life]

142. "What does it matter?" of Benghazi fame .... birds of a feather ... n/t

[Doctor_J]

88. It warms my heart that so many "democrats" support the most dishonest and corrupt candidate we've

run in my rather long lifetime. And also support capital punishment, TPP, TTIP, poverty level minimum wage, for profit heathcare, for profit schools, for profit mass incarceration, wall street crime, endless war, drone murder of civilians, and regime change in the middle east and latin america, and fracking. You must be so proud. Admit it - if it's Sanders against a Republican in November, the republican - whoever it is - will be much closer to your politics than Bernie.

[asuhornets]

89. Save it

heard all that nonsense before. getting old.

[libdem4life]

124. Perhaps you can identify specifically the "nonsense "?

But I rather doubt it.

[libdem4life]

143. Never get an answer to this...just crickets. n/t

[VulgarPoet]

92. Boom. That's my view. Right there.

None of this crap-- Blackwater, and that ilk-- nothing in my OP of cataloging her misdeeds-- NONE of it is anything I can support. And if that's what it takes to fit under the so-called big tent of corrupt interventionism, then no. I'm not a Democrat anymore.

[pangaia]

152. Yes, you ARE a Democrat. it is TGHEY who are no longer Democrats.

[840high]

101. .+1

[olddots]

5. this is a yuuuuuuge can of worms

[Octafish]

7. Jackson Stephens also part of Walmart and BCCI stories.

Same for his attorney, Hillary R. Clinton, who would become a board member at Walmart.

But few know the story about BCCI IN THE UNITED STATES. CIA director Bob Gates called it, "the Bank of Crooks and Criminals International."

Maybe that's why Wonder Woman endorsed HRC for President. Her husband Robert Altman was BCCI frontman Clark Clifford's No.1. Until the S&Ls went under, BCCI was the largest bank scam in history with the usual crony capitalism, CIA, narcotrafficers, Mafia, GOP, DEM, etc...

Wonder Woman Isn`t Much Help In BCCI Scandal

August 04, 1991|By Michael Kilian, Chicago Tribune.

WASHINGTON — If you ever wondered what happened to Wonder Woman, a.k.a. Lynda Carter, the statuesque actress whose comic-bookesque ``Wonder Woman`` TV series ran from 1976 to 1979, well, she later did a couple of miniseries and some cosmetics commercials and promotions. But mostly she married (in 1984) hot-shot Washington lawyer Robert Altman, junior partner and protege of Clark Clifford, longtime lobbyist/lawyer, presidential confidant and former defense secretary.

While her husband was knocking down the big bucks, setting her up in a fabulous estate in suburban Potomac, Md., with a reported 16 bathrooms, Carter hit the Washington social scene in as big a way as possible, lending her highly visible presence to ballet balls and disease-fighting charity functions and generally carrying on more like a grande dame than a comic book super hero.

According to Friday`s Washington Post, she`s been such a whiz at socializing that her circle of friends now includes Blaine Trump, the much-photographed wife of Donald Trump`s even less-successful younger brother, Robert; defrocked former House Speaker Jim Wright and his wife, Betty; the socially indefatigable Honey Skinner, wife of Illinoisan and Transportation Secretary Sam Skinner; tennis stars Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova, and, yes, Dorothy Bush LeBlond, daughter of President and Mrs. Bush.

Not bad for a woman who used to go around in a skin-tight strapless outfit and use magic bracelets to help corral bad guys.

Trouble is, husband Robert and his boss, Clifford, are finding themselves all over the newspapers these days as major players with the capital`s First American Bankshares Inc., a bank holding company that turns out to have been connected with the notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce International. With a client list that allegedly includes some of the world`s least savory terrorists and drug dealers, BCCI has not only won the sobriquet ``sleaziest bank in the world`` but also was hit with indictments in New York charging bribery and fraud.

Altman, although president of First American, says he had no knowledge of any deep connection with BCCI, but is said to be preparing legal paperwork in anticipation of an investigation by federal prosecutors and Federal Reserve Board regulators.

CONTINUED...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-08-04/features/9103250783_1_honey-skinner-mrs-bush-bush-family-compound

Magic Bracelets of Buy Partisanship

[bobthedrummer]

11. Thank you Sir! n/t

[rhett o rick]

15. I also thank you. nm

[Avalon Sparks]

117. Good Find!!

[Uncle Joe]

8. 'A powerful gust of wind."

On October 8, 1987, Tommy Baker, a former Arkansas State Police officer and longtime friend of Buddy Young, says he happened to be passing Reed’s hangar when a powerful gust of wind blew the door open, revealing a plane. Baker says he thought the plane looked “suspicious” and so called his pal Young at the Governor’s mansion. Young later claimed in testimony that he called the registration number on the plane into the National Crime Information Center to see if a plane with that number had been stolen, found no record of this and so instructed Baker to check if the plane’s markings had been changed, a common practice of plane thieves (also a routine practice at Mena and in North’s Project Donation). Baker established that they had been, and by October 21 the two had turned the case over to the F.B.I.

Thanks for the thread, bobthedrummer.

[bobthedrummer]

130. It's still blowing strong Uncle Joe. n/t

[iAZZZo]

10. "We have discussed BCCI for many years here-it's still a vital topic, isn't it?"

yes it is bobthedrummer. thank you

interestingly, posted just a while ago containing cockburn-st. clair at http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511471146

[bobthedrummer]

12. Welcome to DU iAZZZo! Yep-it's another "open wound" indeed.

[bobthedrummer]

21. In context-take a look at Chelsea and Marc's wedding guests, elitists plan for maintenance first...

"In the countdown to the big event, The Daily Beast has learned some new details about the bridesmaids, the flower girl, and the truth about the guest list."

Inside Chelsea's Wedding Party (Lynnley Browning July 29, 2010)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/07/29/chelsea-clintons-bridesmaids-and-wedding-party.html

These are cradle-to-grave networks, literally, intermarried like breeding (eugenics) "good stock".

Below is another case illustrating that context, a 1998 New York Times article focused on the "fabulous" Liz Robbins and her former ABC employed husband that hosted Bill and Hillary's wedding among other things. Review that wedding guest list too. Uh huh!

Long Island Journal: An East-Ender Who's a Real Friend of Bill (Diane Ketcham 8/9/98 NYT)
http://nytimes.com/1998/08/09/nyregion/long-island-journal-an-east-ender-who-s-a-real-friend-of-bill.html

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. the "boys on the tracks case''

Arkansas State Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak, appointed by Gov. Bill Clinton, quickly ruled the boys' deaths "accidental," saying they were unconscious or in a deep sleep as a result of smoking marijuana.



The State medical examiner concluded they had smoked the equivalent of 20 marijuana cigarettes. He determined that Kevin and Don had been in a deep sleep induced by the drug and had never heard the oncoming train. He ruled their death an accident. Don and Kevin’s parents would not accept the medical examiner’s conclusion. Kevin’s father Larry hired a private investigator to find out what really happened:


http://unsolved.com/archives/don-henry-kevin-ives


Five months after their sons were killed, the boys’ parents held a press conference. They hoped to force the authorities to re-open the investigation. The day after their press conference, the investigation was officially re-opened. Newly appointed Prosecutor Richard Garrett had the boys’ bodies exhumed for a second autopsy. The doctor concluded that, together, the boys had smoked, not 20, but between one and three marijuana cigarettes. He also found evidence that one boy was already dead, and one unconscious, before the train ever hit them. A grand jury reversed the medical examiner’s original finding of accidental death and officially ruled the boys’ deaths were “probable homicides.”

[bobthedrummer]

26. "...mainly based on the actual experiences of people in key government positions, former drug smugg-

lers, former Mafia insiders and others. There are no wild conspiracy theories; facts, provided by people wanting the information known."

CIA Drug Operations in Arkansas (Rodney Stich September 1, 2014)
http://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140901170230-29817943-cia-drug-operations-in-arkansas

An excerpt from Dillon Read & Co. Inc. And the Aristocracy of Stock Profits by Catherine Austin Fitts
"During the 1980s a sometime government agent named Barry Seal led a smuggling operation that delivered a significant amount of narcotics estimated to be as much as $5 billion from Latin America through an airport in Mena, Arkansas."

Chapter 4: Narco Dollars in the 1980s-Mena, Arkansas (Fitts)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0709/S00059.htm

[Octafish]

27. Bastards used Bill Clinton to cover up their treason.

The CIA/MSM Contra-Cocaine Cover-up

Exclusive: With Hollywood set to release a movie about the Contra-cocaine scandal and the destruction of journalist Gary Webb, an internal CIA report has surfaced showing how the spy agency manipulated the mainstream media’s coverage to disparage Webb and contain the scandal, reports Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry
ConsortiumNews, September 26, 2014

In 1996 as major U.S. news outlets disparaged the Nicaraguan Contra-cocaine story and destroyed the career of investigative reporter Gary Webb for reviving it the CIA marveled at the success of its public-relations team guiding the mainstream media’s hostility toward both the story and Webb, according to a newly released internal report.

Entitled “Managing a Nightmare: CIA Public Affairs and the Drug Conspiracy Story,” the six-page report describes the CIA’s damage control after Webb’s “Dark Alliance” series was published in the San Jose Mercury-News in August 1996. Webb had resurrected disclosures from the 1980s about the CIA-backed Contras collaborating with cocaine traffickers as the Reagan administration worked to conceal the crimes.

SNIP...

Besides tracing the evidence of Contra-drug trafficking through the decade-long Contra war, the inspector general interviewed senior CIA officers who acknowledged that they were aware of the Contra-drug problem but didn’t want its exposure to undermine the struggle to overthrow Nicaragua’s Sandinista government.

According to Hitz, the CIA had “one overriding priority: to oust the Sandinista government. . . . [CIA officers] were determined that the various difficulties they encountered not be allowed to prevent effective implementation of the Contra program.” One CIA field officer explained, “The focus was to get the job done, get the support and win the war.”

Hitz also recounted complaints from CIA analysts that CIA operations officers handling the Contras hid evidence of Contra-drug trafficking even from the CIA’s analysts.

Because of the withheld evidence, the CIA analysts incorrectly concluded in the mid-1980s that “only a handful of Contras might have been involved in drug trafficking.” That false assessment was passed on to Congress and to major news organizations, serving as an important basis for denouncing Gary Webb and his “Dark Alliance” series in 1996.

Although Hitz’s report was an extraordinary admission of institutional guilt by the CIA, it went almost unnoticed by major U.S. news outlets. By fall 1998, the U.S. mainstream media was obsessed with President Bill Clinton’s Monica Lewinsky sex scandal. So, few readers of major U.S. newspapers saw much about the CIA’s inspector general admitting that America’s premier spy agency had collaborated with and protected cocaine traffickers.

CONTINUED...

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/09/26/the-ciamsm-contra-cocaine-cover-up/

[bobthedrummer]

28. There's so much more to this as you and I and some other DUers have said for quite awhile, Sir.

It really has impacted all of US for such a long, long time-hasn't it?

[EndElectoral]

29. My God, there is so much of this stuff it is hard to keep up with it all.

[bobthedrummer]

34. It has been suppressed and people were made "examples" of-those days are over this AMERICAN SPRING

[asuhornets]

31. You are

no better than the repugs. Associating Hillary to drugs and money laundering. This nonsense does not do your candidate any good whatsoever.

[bobthedrummer]

33. Your opinions about me are worthless-oh lover of the truth. You are going to be surprised tomorrow.

[blm]

35. Bill had one role in it - look the other way. This was 100% Poppy Bush

and there is no doubt in my mind that Clinton was ordered to not interfere with Bush's CIA operations.

Also - just to keep things straight, Jackson Stephens was Poppy Bush's longtime ally. Clinton's roles were always peripheral to that partnership. Bush NEEDED to lose in Nov 1992 because of the expected release of the BCCI report in Dec 1992, so it was Jackson Stephens who bankrolled Clinton's primary and Poppy Bush was glad to lose so he could be off the hook.

[bobthedrummer]

36. I'm so sick of the lesser of two evils thing, blm, as are many others. Some more support for my OP

for everyone to consider.

Jeb Bush and the Murder of CIA Drug Smuggler Barry Seal in 1986 (Varied sources March 3, 2013)
http://barrysealmurder1986jebbusholivernorth.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-bushes-oliver-north-bill-clinton.html

The Crimes of Mena by Sally Denton and Roger Morris

"This is the article which had been scheduled to appear in the Washington Post. This is the story that couldn't be suppressed.
An investigative report into a scandal that haunts the reputations of three presidents-Reagan, Bush, and Clinton."

https://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/crimes_of_mena.html

[Avalon Sparks]

116. So much stuff out there - thanks for posting.

[mcar]

37. I knew we'd get here sooner or later

The Mena Airport.

DU has completed its full tour around the anti-Clinton RW talking points.

Please read anything by Gene Lyons or Joe Conason for real facts.

[CorkySt.Clair]

44. +1 an oldie but a goody

I believe it was Pat Robertson that pushed a book and companion piece VHS documentary on Mena back in the early 90's.

I'm not sure what's more entertaining. Those who think this is "new" fodder from the GOP fever swamp, or those that heard about it years ago, thought it was BS, but have now "evolved" to the point where they believe it's relevant because it might help Bernie in some way.

[bobthedrummer]

45. Information Operations/IO don't work so well on many of us boomers today. Here's an oldie 4 ya

[CorkySt.Clair]

46. There's confirmation I was right on one count

[bobthedrummer]

125. What count REALLY made sense to you, self-confirmationwise, Corky?

[bobthedrummer]

47. You aren't a know it all, are you mcar? Lots of us are learning a lot of things today.

Keep this kicked-don't kill it, people.

[whistler162]

38. The article failed to mention the link

to the cases of Jimmy Hoffa and Judge Crater.

[bobthedrummer]

43. What article is that, whistler162, since there are many links in this thread-mine are FACTUAL.

[GusBob]

39. Kick

[kgnu_fan]

40. kick

[bobthedrummer]

41. Kick...

[bobthedrummer]

42. Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part II (Catherine Austin Fitts March

2006)

This is still a vital topic especially today. Don't kill it, kick it.
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

[bobthedrummer]

48. "As a senator, John Kerry was a tenacious investigator and exposed BCCI..."

Election 2004: The Case That Kerry Cracked (Lucy Komisar October 24, 2004)

http://www.alternet.org/story/20268/the_case_that_kerry_cracked

A Whitewater Chronology (The Wall Street Journal May 28, 2003)
What really happened during the Clinton years

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122721127833145225

[bobthedrummer]

49. Don't kill this thread-kick it...

[msanthrope]

50. Been waiting for a Mena airport thread. Gotta go check if I won the pool. nt

[bobthedrummer]

51. Follow the money msanthrope-it's got a little blood on it though I'd wager.

[msanthrope]

73. Care to expand? nt

[bobthedrummer]

74. Obviously people were murdered thoughout the decades-eventually the money trail fragments as design-

ed. Worst of all, to many of us, is the lack of accountability for anything-including murder.

[Fast Walker 52]

71. cocaine was flown by the CIA into Mena, it's a fact

[msanthrope]

72. Of course it is. nt

[shrike]

110. Is there a Clinton Body Count pool?

If so, I want in.

I'm a Bernie supporter, but I can't believe the crap I'm seeing on DU.

[msanthrope]

114. Can't wait for this primary to be over. nt

[bobthedrummer]

53. Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part II (Catherine Austin Fitts 2006)

http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

[bobthedrummer]

54. So, who else has followed adaptations by some of the networks that laundered money through BCCI ?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

55. Damned baggage car is leaking again.

[bobthedrummer]

56. Drip, drip, drip...and there's blood on the tracks from the cow catcher...

[MineralMan]

57. Back to the 1980s?

Really? WTF? I expect the Republicans to bring this up again, not Democrats.

Now, you've kicked your March 11 thread back up again. Several times. Makes no sense, unless you think about it for a little while.

[whatchamacallit]

59. What's the approved shelf life for issues these days?

The 'ancient history' dodge is probably the weakest of all.

[MineralMan]

60. I dunno. Yours may be longer than mine.

In any case, my opinions is mine alone. See my signature line. I have no way to control anyone else, so I speak for myself, as and when it pleases me to do so.

I'd think you'd already know that, but I can repeat it as often as needed:

My posts, if not quoted from other sources, are my opinion and my opinion only. Your opinion might differ.

You are welcome to question my opinion and disagree with it. I will continue to have that opinion, however, regardless of your opinion about it.

[whatchamacallit]

61. Your opinion in favor of ignoring history is troubling

but we know why you might have a personal issue with history.

[MineralMan]

62. Oh, for pete's sake.

I'm sorry for troubling you. I mean, I count on you to help kick my threads, so I wouldn't want to ruin that. Your insinuations and innuendo about me are silly. People can go see my explanations in my current journal and make their own judgment. Since you only hint at these "nefarious" things I'm supposed to have done, it's meaningless.

I do hope you'll continue to keep bumping my posts up in the thread list though. It's difficult to keep threads current on DU, and every kick helps, so I don't want to discourage you.

[whatchamacallit]

63. Says something about the quality of your posts

if you need me to help keep them alive.

[U4ikLefty]

149. Nice

[bobthedrummer]

66. BCCI, Iran Contra relevance: UAE, Saudi, Pakistan, money and Bush family (ProSense 10-7-06 DU)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2870996

I no longer will be "doomed to repeat the past" either, whatchamacallit.

[bobthedrummer]

65. You got that right amigo. Thinking is what the real DU reality-based community does best. K n/t

[bobthedrummer]

75. You are MineralMan in 2016. The H-Man originated in 1958. Think about that for a little longer..k.

[bobthedrummer]

67. Kill this thread, don't kick it-it's over...blah,blah,blah...

[bobthedrummer]

68. ^

[bobthedrummer]

69. Let's talk about it...

[bobthedrummer]

70. What did POTUS Bill Clinton (whom I voted for twice) do on his last day in office in the OP context?

Bill Clinton pardon controversy (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

[mcar]

76. Mena Airport!!11

[bobthedrummer]

77. "Numbs" the word, heh, mcar?

Bill Clinton pardon controversy (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

Mena was a very big source of money that needed further exchange/cleaning etc...
http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

[floriduck]

79. If the Repubs are going to throw this out there,

we might as well get it out now. That gives Hill a chance to dance around it until she finds the right answers to use.

[bobthedrummer]

98. Yep. n/t

[72DejaVu]

78. Congratulations

GDP has now gone full Heritage Foundation.

[SidDithers]

81. ...

Sid

[bobthedrummer]

135. <^>

[NCTraveler]

82. Kick. Men's? Clinton? Hell yes.

This is the op that was needed to bring them all out of the shadows. The only thing on solid ground here is the transparency.

[think]

83. still relevant IMO....

[bobthedrummer]

95. Absolutely still relevant for millions of US that voted for POTUS Clinton and value the rule of law.

[KoKo]

85. It should be, Bob. (As You Know)-- Informed voters should know some History

before they go to vote. But, then, even history won't have your vote "Counted" given the new Repub Laws denying Voter's Rights across America. But, if we stick to the Principles of "Informed Voters" casting their ballots then it's up to the People to RAISE HELL if those Votes are NOT COUNTED! (I'm doing a "Bernie Shout" with my full caps, here.)

[bobthedrummer]

90. Kick...

[DemocraticSocialist8]

91. Subs

[bobthedrummer]

96. Tunnels

[bobthedrummer]

93. ^

[bobthedrummer]

94. "Hillary Clinton: The Bible is 'the biggest influence on my thinking'" (Ben Johnson citing NYT 2014)

Mine too, Madame Speaker, no longer the addictions or demons that once dominated so many of us.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/hillary-clinton-the-bible-is-the-biggest-influence-on-my-thinking

[bobthedrummer]

97. ^

[bobthedrummer]

99. ^

[bobthedrummer]

100. The Tailor of Panama isn't fictition today either...kick

[rbrnmw]

102. What's the matter Bob the indictment fairy let you down again today?

[FreakinDJ]

103. Clintons quest for money and power knows no depth

Too low

[bobthedrummer]

138. There it is, FreakinDJ. n/t

[haikugal]

104. Kick! K&R!!

[bobthedrummer]

105. This is just part of the reason I voted for Bernie Sanders this morning-btw the turnout was huge n/t

[haikugal]

106. OMG Bob, that's wonderful! Go Berners Go!!!

[bobthedrummer]

107. As a public service keep this kicked every day until the convention...

[bobthedrummer]

108. From Wisconsin with Love-today's kick and call for participation

[bobthedrummer]

109. What a time for these Panama Papers to appear out of nowhere, right? Then there is the real NAZI

connection-just like in BCCI, etc. Waffen SS member Erhard Mossack was the father of one of Mossack Fonseca's founders. Much of the wealth stolen by the Third Reich is still in circulation indeed-in that context this post is right on topic.

Take a look at the FBI copy of his CI Special Interrogation Report after his arrest in May 1946 (set-up by another real NAZI) and spend a little time today reviewing the absolutely factual Annex II List of Personalities.

Erhard Mossack FBI dossier (pdf)
https://cryptome.org/pp-mf/nyt/Erhard-Mossack-NationalArchives-icij-nyt-16-0406.pdf

[silenttigersong]

112. Yes indeed it is with Bill Clinton and his BLM meltdown n/t

[bobthedrummer]

115. Then his full Slickness about "I was going to apologize..." while Madame Secretary lies to everyone

not just people of color...

[Zira]

113. Thanks for posting it!

[bobthedrummer]

118. It is a public service my friend. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

119. Another public service kick...

[iAZZZo]

121. psa kick

psa kick in honor of a true journalist, gary webb

[bobthedrummer]

122. PSA kick in memory of Danny Casolaro...

[bobthedrummer]

123. Here's some more Panama Papers analysis that is dead center on topic in this thread

Panama Papers: Links Revealed to CIA and Iran-Contra Affair (Will Fitzgibbon April 6, 2016)

"Documents show ex-CIA gun-runners, contractors use offshore firms for personal gain"
http://www.constantinereport.com/panama-papers-links-revealed-spies-iran-contra-affair

"Ex-CIA"...

[Buzz cook]

127. I'm waiting for the Clinton murders book to come up next.

What was old is now new.

[panader0]

128. Kick

[bobthedrummer]

131. A PSA kick. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

132. Kick...

[bobthedrummer]

133. For those of US that follow dark $$ until it vanishes another public service kick & a helpful link

The International Consortium of Investigative Journalists/ICIJ Panama Papers Reporting Partners
http://panamapapers.icij.org/pages/reporting_partners

[bobthedrummer]

134. And here's the ICIJ's official site: The Panama Papers

http://panamapapers.icij.org

[bobthedrummer]

136. The "introduction" of the Koch Brothers network support comes as no surprise to me-how about you?

[bobthedrummer]

137. The money laundering thread: A DU collaborative investigation (July 2010) drip, drip, drip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8716178

Funny how truth is priceless-isn't it?

[bobthedrummer]

139. May Day PSA n/t

[SidDithers]

140. Sunday must be the day to kick all your old threads back to the front page...

Sid

[bobthedrummer]

141. I wear my old threads with pride, and they wear well with age-thanks for the k

[libdem4life]

144. Everyone is a culmination of their actions

since the age of accountability...which used to be 12 years old.

It's not like anyone gets a total pass for their past...especially the nefarious and damaging acts. One can change, repent, get saved, ignore, deny...but the facts still remain. And when the facts are written down, and now on video, sorry...no victim passes based on the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

[bobthedrummer]

145. Yep, accountability! Thanks! The Clinton's controversial foundation (June 27, 2015 The Week)

http://theweek.com/articles/562566/clintons-controversial-foundation

[bobthedrummer]

146. How's the Clinton campaign's federal criminal investigation going today? Anyone know?

[bobthedrummer]

147. Senate Foreign Relations Committee 1992 The BCCI Affair Executive Summary (FAS archives)

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci

[revmclaren]

153. Hey Skinner....

How do you like what your forum has become. Is it what you dreamed it would be? Is it now your definition of 'DEMOCRATIC'?

Is it just a group of like-minded people discussing politics, world events, etc in a safe nurturing environment?

Yes Skinner...take a look here. Enjoy!



(this symbol not allowed).

[bobthedrummer]

154. You sound like you are worried about something concerning the truth to me and others.

Thanks for the kick revmclaren, and try not to worry so much about this thread-which is factual or it would have been locked long ago imho.

[revmclaren]

155. Just want the trash taken out so we can concentrate on the GE.

And no, it wouldn't be locked with the jury stacked as it now stands. But don't think Skinner isn't reading the alerts and planning how to stop this from happening again after DU goes into GE mode. I have no problem at all kicking this til July 29th if I really cared to. Then this will be the type of post banned along with its various RECers.

Enjoy the last 80 days here (or less if Skinner calls it sooner...as in after Calif when the numbers will be impossible to ignore).

And yes...this is a wave goodby in advance.



P.S. My sig line will change after today again.

P.P.S. Wont answer any replies to this because none of you are worth my time any longer.

[bobthedrummer]

156. I'm not "trash"-nor am I "life unworthy of life" and I'm certainly not alone. My sig line is the US

All Power To The People.

[bobthedrummer]

157. Hillary Clinton and the End of the Democratic Party (Rob Urie May 6, 2016)

"...the Democratic Party is the Party of Wall Street and corporate America." There it is.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/hillary-clinton-and-the-end-of-the-democratic-party