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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:11 PM Mar 2016

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Keep digging. I'm sure you'll find that pony! winter is coming Mar 2016 #1
That, and her praising the AIDS response. Wilms Mar 2016 #2
When does the light come on? immoderate Mar 2016 #3
When you open the door, silly Fumesucker Mar 2016 #4
"Brilliant" to have to walk back (yet another) clumsy, transparent lie? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #5
You might want to ask Ron Reagan Jr about that "transparent lie" leftofcool Mar 2016 #7
Yep and what she said is not entirely accurate. leftofcool Mar 2016 #6
Oh, now you've done it! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #8
The laughing is seriously hurting her campaign and it does nothing for your cause either. Cavallo Mar 2016 #25
I'm "seriously hurting her campaign" ... little ol' me? HA! :-P NurseJackie Mar 2016 #32
No. You're hurting your integrity. Cavallo Mar 2016 #34
what does not exist... tonedevil Mar 2016 #38
I think you've nailed it. Cavallo Mar 2016 #47
I do not care what anonymous posters think of me. You may continue as well. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #40
I'm just putting you on the ignore list. Cavallo Mar 2016 #46
I guess I'm just too much for ya, huh? :-P NurseJackie Mar 2016 #52
I used to like the Golden Girls TSIAS Mar 2016 #35
You find this funny? libtodeath Mar 2016 #69
Yes it was really brilliant. So brilliant I'm going to rec your thread. Autumn Mar 2016 #9
K&R for sheer creativity Fumesucker Mar 2016 #10
It's downright Hillaryesque. Autumn Mar 2016 #19
It's a another outright lie. And it's so... cold. Cavallo Mar 2016 #27
This! NWCorona Mar 2016 #28
Weak sauce alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #11
Or a massive fuck up. NT. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #12
Good God! You'll friggin' try to spin anything! Have you no shame at all? BillZBubb Mar 2016 #13
Granted there will be more focus on the Reagan's record but she tied herself to them rhett o rick Mar 2016 #14
Praising them for their INactions. longship Mar 2016 #17
You have no shame. TM99 Mar 2016 #15
You must be kidding. Vinca Mar 2016 #16
Clinton retracts praise for Reagans' HIV/AIDS legacy insta8er Mar 2016 #18
some of us actually remember the 80's and Reagan's ummm 'action' on the AID;s epidemic azurnoir Mar 2016 #20
LOL!!!! Yeah, that's what she was doing Arazi Mar 2016 #21
My hamster would love this level of spin TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #22
That is a very cute video! Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #24
FFS, maybe your best work yet. morningfog Mar 2016 #23
Yes, this is absolutely brilliant! There is no way that Reagan can win the election now! Bjorn Against Mar 2016 #26
I remember last Sunday TSIAS Mar 2016 #29
and I was right Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #33
Did you think Clinton would blow a double-digit lead in MI? TSIAS Mar 2016 #37
The polls were obviously off Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #43
Reccing, because this train wreck of an OP belongs on the Greatest Page. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #30
Oh my shawn703 Mar 2016 #31
I think I'm gonna vomit Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #36
You can't help yourself, can you? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #39
Aw, c'mon, guys. She said she "misspoke" - laruemtt Mar 2016 #41
Yeah, I often say "AIDS" when i mean to say "Stem Cell Research" all the time! nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #44
And the best part: the Reagans didn't start a national conversation on stem cell research, either. winter is coming Mar 2016 #51
They were a kind of stroke, though. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #42
Gonna rec this trainwreck... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #45
Yes. Defending Regan. Cavallo Mar 2016 #56
This is the worst interpretation of a situation I have ever seen on here SheenaR Mar 2016 #48
Why she now has said she ahem "mispoke" nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #49
Did she backtrack on this? Cavallo Mar 2016 #53
Yes, in a very clintonian way nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #57
Thanks for posting it! Cavallo Mar 2016 #62
Their twitter feed is where it is nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #64
Hill- lair- ious EndElectoral Mar 2016 #50
Uh-huh... that's what she was trying to do. gcomeau Mar 2016 #54
That's a very bizarre analysis CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #55
Hillary "brilliantly" drew focus on Reagan's appalling AIDS record by spinning it as a great record? Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #58
I'm sure that was her intent all along right? revbones Mar 2016 #59
lol Go Vols Mar 2016 #60
There is just now way you could possibly believe this. Broward Mar 2016 #61
Your comment has all the grace and depth of thought I have come to expect of you and of Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #63
No. MerryBlooms Mar 2016 #65
Shes evolved since this morning Go Vols Mar 2016 #66
Bwhahahahaha. Segami Mar 2016 #67
You have to be kidding. libtodeath Mar 2016 #68
Sorry, but it was a fuck up. zappaman Mar 2016 #70
I think this thread has run its course. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #71

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
1. Keep digging. I'm sure you'll find that pony!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

'Cause nothing says "brilliant" like saying something that makes voters wonder whether you're losing your marbles or just a shameless liar.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
2. That, and her praising the AIDS response.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Mar 2016

But I do agree.

Add that to the list including Kissinger.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
3. When does the light come on?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:14 PM
Mar 2016


--imm

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. When you open the door, silly
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:16 PM
Mar 2016

Unless of course you are one of those who thinks the light stays on all the time and we know how ~they~ are.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
5. "Brilliant" to have to walk back (yet another) clumsy, transparent lie?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016

Yeah, that's just fuckin' brilliant.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
7. You might want to ask Ron Reagan Jr about that "transparent lie"
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
6. Yep and what she said is not entirely accurate.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

Since the GOP contenders seem to want to run on Reagan's record, it is only fair Reagan's record be brought to light in all of its non glory.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
8. Oh, now you've done it!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

This will just piss off the Hillary-haters even MORE! (But, hey, at least they've forgotten about those damn transcripts. Whew!)




Cavallo

(348 posts)
25. The laughing is seriously hurting her campaign and it does nothing for your cause either.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

I'll remember never to use it by how it comes off. Thanks for showing me.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. I'm "seriously hurting her campaign" ... little ol' me? HA! :-P
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

Cavallo

(348 posts)
34. No. You're hurting your integrity.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

Please continue.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
38. what does not exist...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:47 PM
Mar 2016

can not be hurt.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
47. I think you've nailed it.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:59 PM
Mar 2016

Much better board without that.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
40. I do not care what anonymous posters think of me. You may continue as well.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

This is fun!

Cavallo

(348 posts)
46. I'm just putting you on the ignore list.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

No substance and thread hijacks. Got it. Good bye.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. I guess I'm just too much for ya, huh? :-P
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
35. I used to like the Golden Girls
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

Now whenever I think of them I'm just reminded of the snark from this website.

libtodeath

(2,892 posts)
69. You find this funny?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

Millions of people have died horrible deaths largely at the hands of the rayguns and it is a joke to someone that presumes to be a nurse from your name here?

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
9. Yes it was really brilliant. So brilliant I'm going to rec your thread.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

All need to see this shining beacon.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. K&R for sheer creativity
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

Bless your everlovin' heart.

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
19. It's downright Hillaryesque.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

Very impressive.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
27. It's a another outright lie. And it's so... cold.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
28. This!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
11. Weak sauce
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

It's just more evidence that Hillary is terrible at the campaigning part of politics.

How you step in it like this before the Florida and Illinois primaries is anyone's guess. She likely lost both those states with this nonsense.

The problem, of course, is that Sanders is deeply unqualified with more than a little of the demagogue about him, so we really are in a pickle now.

One thing's for sure: we won't have a President as good as Obama for the foreseeable future.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
12. Or a massive fuck up. NT.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
13. Good God! You'll friggin' try to spin anything! Have you no shame at all?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary screwed up. She told one lie too many. Deal with it.

The focus isn't on Reagan's record. We all know that. The focus is on Hillary's inability to get the truth out of her mouth.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
14. Granted there will be more focus on the Reagan's record but she tied herself to them
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:26 PM
Mar 2016

by praising them for their actions. She has always been a big fan of Reagan, which I think is very scary.

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. Praising them for their INactions.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:29 PM
Mar 2016

There. Fixed now.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
15. You have no shame.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

None, zilch, zip, nadda, and it is truly sad and cringe-worthy.

Hillary lied. She got caught and offered the politician's standard non-apology 'misspoke' line.

No she did not make Reagan's record the focus, she made herself and the eve growing list of blatant lies the focus.

Vinca

(54,330 posts)
16. You must be kidding.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:28 PM
Mar 2016

I figured she must be pandering to Reagan lovers in hopes of getting some GOP votes. The remark was completely wrong and totally revolting. I don't know how people can support her.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
20. some of us actually remember the 80's and Reagan's ummm 'action' on the AID;s epidemic
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

but if you need clarification there's an HBO movie called 'The Normal Heart' that'll fill you in on Reagan's 'action' during the 1980's where aids was concerned

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
21. LOL!!!! Yeah, that's what she was doing
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:32 PM
Mar 2016

SMDamnH

Bitter laughter

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
22. My hamster would love this level of spin
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:33 PM
Mar 2016
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
24. That is a very cute video!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. FFS, maybe your best work yet.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
26. Yes, this is absolutely brilliant! There is no way that Reagan can win the election now!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

Oh wait, I forgot that Reagan is not running.

I guess this might help Hillary win the "uninformed and proud of it" vote though.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
29. I remember last Sunday
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

I believe you said that Reagan's expiration would kill any momentum Sanders had from Maine. Well, of course there was that epic upset two days later in Michigan.

I'll give you credit for turning anything into an anti-Clinton or pro-Hillary talking point.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
33. and I was right
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary actually increased her pledged delegate lead by 24 after the Tuesday results.

TSIAS

(14,689 posts)
37. Did you think Clinton would blow a double-digit lead in MI?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

After doing so awful at the debate, and with Nancy Reagan buying it, you would have thought Hillary would have done better than expected in Michigan. The results in MS were on par with how the primary had been playing out and wasn't a surprise.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
43. The polls were obviously off
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:55 PM
Mar 2016

So I don't think she ever had the lead in Michigan. The turnout models sucked and the data was bad. Garbage in, garbage out.

I thought she would win by about 5 points in Michigan, but she lost by 1.5 points.

However, I didn't think she would win in Mississippi by as much as she did so it more than offset her Michigan loss.

I thought she would net about 25 delegates on Tuesday, but she net 24.

Not too shabby.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
30. Reccing, because this train wreck of an OP belongs on the Greatest Page. n/t
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

shawn703

(2,712 posts)
31. Oh my
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016

You put pulsars to shame with the amount of spin you just used.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
36. I think I'm gonna vomit
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

on this delusion of spin

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
39. You can't help yourself, can you?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, you could just let this epically stupid and entirely self-inflicted damage blow over. You're just a writer on a message board, there's no need for you to have a position on it. The news cycle will take care of it, right? There's absolutely nothing to be won by dwelling on it.

But nooooooo... it's almost like Stalinism, with only the reassuring parts, none of the fear or pressure or pain. Onl the harmony of broup think! But also the creativity that each cog gets to express, as you autonomously come up with awesome whopper explanations for why Comrade HRC raised the chocolate ration and has always raised the chocolate ration.

laruemtt

(3,992 posts)
41. Aw, c'mon, guys. She said she "misspoke" -
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
44. Yeah, I often say "AIDS" when i mean to say "Stem Cell Research" all the time! nt
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:57 PM
Mar 2016

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
51. And the best part: the Reagans didn't start a national conversation on stem cell research, either.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:02 PM
Mar 2016

It's true that Nancy supported it at a time when few Republicans did, but she did not start the conversation.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
42. They were a kind of stroke, though.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
45. Gonna rec this trainwreck...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

...so the OP gets more visibility. Everybody needs to see the desperation of the Hillarians.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
56. Yes. Defending Regan.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:05 PM
Mar 2016

Priceless.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
48. This is the worst interpretation of a situation I have ever seen on here
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:59 PM
Mar 2016

Especially insulting to those who have a family member who have died from the disease like my fiance.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. Why she now has said she ahem "mispoke"
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:00 PM
Mar 2016

not kind of hang to convictions huh?

Cavallo

(348 posts)
53. Did she backtrack on this?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

I think she knew better all along and it as a calculating slam to gays. She's so proud of what Nancy and Ronald did - which was absolutely nothing for years.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
57. Yes, in a very clintonian way
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:06 PM
Mar 2016

Cavallo

(348 posts)
62. Thanks for posting it!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

Informative.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
64. Their twitter feed is where it is
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
50. Hill- lair- ious
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:01 PM
Mar 2016
 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
54. Uh-huh... that's what she was trying to do.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:04 PM
Mar 2016

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
55. That's a very bizarre analysis
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:05 PM
Mar 2016

I don't think anyone, including HRC really cares that much about what people are saying about the Reagans.

It's a stretch. And a very odd one.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
58. Hillary "brilliantly" drew focus on Reagan's appalling AIDS record by spinning it as a great record?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016
 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
59. I'm sure that was her intent all along right?
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016




Edited to add: If she was truly trying some 13 dimensional chess like that, then why not come out now and speak the truth about the Reagans rather than just say she "misspoke"?

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
60. lol
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

Broward

(1,976 posts)
61. There is just now way you could possibly believe this.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

It does make one wonder just what your motives are here.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
63. Your comment has all the grace and depth of thought I have come to expect of you and of
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

the Hillary attendees here on DU. She attempted to revise Reagan history. She succeeded in demonstrating her own lack of actual connection to LGBT issues then or now. Beyond tone deaf and into the simply calloused. Much like your OP.
Your candidate is certainly the right choice for you. And how.

MerryBlooms

(12,401 posts)
65. No.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

There's no political gain from her comments.
No excuse for her comments. None.

She basically spit in the face of every soul lost during those horrific Reagan denial years, and their loved ones. This isn't just a little faux pas today, this awful statement will stick to her like chewing gum to the cat. Deservedly so.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
66. Shes evolved since this morning
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

and took back what she said.Pretty good stuff.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
67. Bwhahahahaha.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

B--R--I--L--L--I--A--N--T--............OK...lol!!




libtodeath

(2,892 posts)
68. You have to be kidding.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

What an offensive op.

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
70. Sorry, but it was a fuck up.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

She admits it and has apologized.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
71. I think this thread has run its course. nt
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

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