beware of those looking to shore up the purge list....

[restorefreedom]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by treestar (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

i am sure this will be locked as meta, although, if we can see thread after thread by posters (some might call them trolls), posting bait threads asking bernie supporters if, under about a thousand freaking different circumstances, we would ever consider voting for hillary in the ge in order to get names for an upcoming purge list, i think it is equally fair to leave a thread warning people about it.

you are being baited. they are looking to clean out bernie supporters in the exceedingly unlikely event hillary becomes the nom.

don't fall for it.

[MisterP]

1. then it's up to us to make sure we can ask THEM if they'll vote for the nominee

and not Clinton

[winter is coming]

26. I don't care about purge lists.

I doubt the admins either need or want them, and I'm a lot more interested in winning in November than I am in cleansing DU of wrongthink.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

31. One thing you have to admit, if somehow Trump, Cruz or Rubio wins

life will get extremely interesting.

Deadly for many, sure, but interesting for all.

Maybe the conditions need to go into full fascist mode for the people to get it, not just Bernie supporters who stayed home but everybody.

[Smarmie Doofus]

2. Good point. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

3. I have a couple of go-to responses to that one:

I will vote for the person who best represents my views.

It's none of your damned business for whom I vote.

[bkkyosemite]

4. I am so tired of the oaths. But they have mostly been about would Bernie supporter

vote...what about the other way around.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

5. If the site owner doesn't want us here, should we want to stay?

If he truly wants to purge Bernie supporters and chop his site traffic by 90%, shouldn't we be willing to allow him to drive his site into obscurity?

[onecaliberal]

12. I would give my monthly donation elsewhere. Granted it's not alot but if we all did that

[marew]

52. Ditto!

Why would we want to be in such a group and my monthly donation will go with me also. The Hillary people are becoming increasingly intolerant- like Trump- every day.
They explode if anything less than extremely positive is said about Hillary despite her own admitted ongoing gaffes! Even mild comments gets one BANNED forever from the Hillary group!

On Fareed Zakaria this morning there was a social scientist who wrote a book predicting this behavior. These Trump and Hillary people are extremely authoritarian and if you do not believe as they do, you will be banned and "get what you deserve"! The author predicted that this will only get worse, much much worse. We see it here every day!

Reminds me of a phrase from the Broadway hit, "Alexander Hamilton." At one point the following advice was given to our youngest Founding Father. He was told: "Talk less, smile more; Never let them know what you're against or what you're for." Resonates even today!

[Scootaloo]

6. I don't pay attention to loyalty pledges from the people who brought us the PUMA movement.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. I ignore any such threads. n/t

[jillan]

8. They don't need to bother. If Hillary is the nominee many of us will leave anyway.

DU has become a place to share info with other Bernie supporters.

At the same time - I agree completely with OP.

[philly_bob]

9. I think too highly of this site's adminstrators to believe they're doing this.

Tension is high, feelings are intense, maybe some people are doing this. But not the admistrators.

[Hydra]

40. It's not the Admins

But the Admins have the stated policy that Team Hill will exploit. They talk about the list and alert stalk people out of here.

I've been missed on more than one occasion during such purges. We'll see if I make it this time :p

[malletgirl02]

10. Enemies list

A Hillary support kept on using the meme that Bernie Sander's supporters had an enemies list. It looks like it is the Clinton supports are the ones with the enemies list.

[winter is coming]

27. Oh, I do have a list. It's called "Ignore". n/t

[NCTraveler]

11. Nooooo. Not the list!!!!

Happy Sunday restore.

[restorefreedom]

20. lol. happy sunday to you too! :) nt

[marions ghost]

13. If Hillary is the nominee

probably there will be a lot of self-purging...

[John Poet]

33. On the internet, and off of it. Amirite or amirite?

"If Hillary is the nominee, probably there will be a lot of self-purging"

[Logical]

14. Conspiracy BS IMO. nt

[Garrett78]

17. Ding, ding, ding.

Winner!

[goldent]

15. For those worried about purge lists, I've got a little secret

You can re-signup with a new user name. In fact, you could do it now so that by the time the purge comes around, you will be ready with a new (but not TOO new) username.

[restorefreedom]

23. interesting. maybe pig latin or something.

estorefreedomre sounds a little strange, though

[DeadLetterOffice]

47. Jury results

On Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:15 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

For those worried about purge lists, I've got a little secret
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1483427

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Gaming the system? C'mon DU we are better than this

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:22 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not a board monitor, not my lookout.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that but it won't help you too much either
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is not news to anyone.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: ATTENTION ADMINS advocating socks and full of purge paranoia
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[goldent]

49. I guess my "little secret" was more a secret than I thought!

I am not advocating gaming the system - I never have. I simply mis-spoke.

If my completely innocent words offended or hurt anyone, I apologize, but I really don't need to.

If need be, I will leave DU to spend more time with my family.

You won't have goldent to kick around anymore.

[zappaman]

48. Posting privileges over principles!!!

[goldent]

51. I'm really in a quandary

Do I vote my conscience or do I maintain my DU account with its not-great but not-newbie post count?

[PatrickforO]

16. As I said in response to this post in the Bernie room,

I made it 55 years without ever having heard of DU, and while I like DU a lot, I'm not willing to compromise my morals for the privilege of staying here.

I'll vote for whomever I please and it is none of anyone's business who gets my vote.

[closeupready]

45. Bingo!

That's exactly how I feel. They won't have to ban/purge me either - I'll go, and that will be that, if I decide that's what's best.

[gwheezie]

18. Does that work for all of us?

Bernie supporters seem convinced he will be the nominee, so if there are any Hillary supporters who have made posts that they would never vote for Bernie, should they be purged ? Is someone making a list of Hillary supporters?
I'm all for letting it rip during the primary but once we get a nominee, purge the people who don't support the nominee in the GE, no matter who it is. This is a democratic site. Personally, I'm not going to hold it against anyone for prior posts supporting their candidate but it's a new day when we get our nominee, purge the non supporters then.

[restorefreedom]

22. i would not care to see anyone get purged for their political feelings

discussions should continue no matter what happens in the primaries. i am sure that non supporters of the nominee will either leave or just not discuss anything related to the pres race if it reflects negatively on the nom.

i just hope the admins are going to stick with the tos and not pay much attention to things being said now about something happening later.

and yes, it applies to all candidates supporters imo

[zappaman]

19. Posting privileges over principles!!!

[bettyellen]

44. It is important to talk about integrity all the time.

Having it matters naught.

[UglyGreed]

21. .

[Voice for Peace]

24. I'll be happy to leave DU if she gets it.

No purge necessary.

[earthshine]

25. DU is a business. It generates money for its owners via star memberships and ads.

Without profits, it cannot function. So, a massive purge does not make any sense.

For the most part, people who are Democrats will vote for the Democratic nominee. People who are independents have a larger freedom of choice.

[AgerolanAmerican]

28. Why do people do such things?

Don't they at the very least understand that, if current trends hold, it will be Sanders who will be the nominee, and that they themselves are going to be the ones subject to the demand they now make?

[restorefreedom]

29. that would be an interesting turn of events nt

[MisterP]

32. you want them to recognize and avoid double standards?!

[AgerolanAmerican]

36. or at least have a sense of self-preservation

It's like trying to fire a defective RPG that's got a 70% chance of blowing up in the tube. The universe of good ideas does not contain this.

[MisterP]

38. "The universe of good ideas does not contain this." that's very Twitter-worthy

[HooptieWagon]

30. Wouldn't make good business sense to kick out 75% of posters.

[Garrett78]

39. See post #14.

This thread needs a tin foil hat.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

43. 75% of the more reasonable members have left temporarily or are in different forums.

I'm sure they will come back during the GE when we have a very scary, Hitletesque candidate Trump vs Sanders/Clinton or a religious fanatic (Cruz).

[kerry-is-my-prez]

34. If people are not going to support the Dem candidate (Bernie or Hillary) and decide to be green,

Republican, or Indy why would they want to remain on the DEMOCRATIC Underground website? They would just be a troll/disruptor. There are plenty of websites for the Green Party, Socialist Party, independents, Republicans.

[Kip Humphrey]

35. Look, people died to prevent other people coercing them to hold certain views, to

vote for a certain party or person. I'm not about to step on those folks' graves or cower before a purge list or a site's TOS.

NO ONE WILL DICTATE HOW I VOTE.EVER.

To put it in terms some should better understand,

I will not come to heel when it comes to my rights or my vote!

[Zorra]

37. The best strategy is to be noncommittal, even if you are a Bernie

supporter who intends to vote for Clinton if she is nominated.

Keep 'em guessing, and always get as much leverage as you can. We've been abused and taken advantage of by the Dem Establishment for decades.

We need to let them know that our votes are no longer automatic, and that we have demands that must be met if they want our votes.

[valerief]

41. They're just letting us know who to put on Forever Ignored. nt

[kgnu_fan]

42. Just say NO!

[Betty Karlson]

46. I'll leave DU anyway for a couple of months if

Nancy Reagan's hagiographer ends up on top of the ticket, and only return once we may start serious discussion of the president's shortcomings again.

F*CK homophobia, in all its forms!

[LostOne4Ever]

50. Don't worry about purge lists

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