YOU HOO, RUST BELT VOTERS !!! HRC: Bernie Sanders is "reflexively against" any trade deals - CBSNews

[WillyT]

Hillary Clinton: Bernie Sanders is "reflexively against" any trade deals
By Stephanie Condon - CBS News
March 14, 2016, 8:35 PM

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Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has taken heat from the left wing of her party for being slow to express opposition to international trade deals that could hurt American workers. However, Clinton on Monday suggested that her opposition to such deals was more thought out than her opponent's.

Bernie Sanders, she said in a Springfield, Illinois town hall televised by MSNBC, is "reflexively against anything that has any international implication."

"I know you have to trade with the rest of the world," Clinton said, remarking that the U.S. can't forgo the economic potential of international trade, given that the U.S. is home to only 5 percent of the world's population. Clinton said she isn't sure if Sanders generally supports international trade.

"His position is so anti, he's against things before they're finished, before they're read," she said.

Clinton added that she's "learned some things from the 1990's," when the Bill Clinton administration passed NAFTA, "and I've put that to work." She noted that she voted against the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) as a senator in 2005.

Clinton also explained why it took her a relatively long time to come out against the Trans-Pacific Partnership [TPP], which the Obama administration supports. "I hoped that we could deal with currency manipulation...it turned out when it was all said and done, it didn't meet my standards," she said.

As the primary season has moved to the Midwest -- Illinois and Ohio vote on Tuesday, while Sanders defied expectations and won in Michigan last week -- Sanders has focused a great deal on issues like trade and manufacturing. At a rally in Youngstown, Ohio on Monday, Sanders pointed out to supporters that 31 percent of manufacturing jobs in the state were lost from 1994 through 2015.

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Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-is-reflexively-against-any-trade-deals/

[Mufaddal]

1. Given our history of trade deals since the early 90s,

this is like saying someone is "reflexively against" cancer before we even know what kind it is.

[Snarkoleptic]

10. Bingo!

Well put.

[Ed Suspicious]

2. I imagine she thinks that sounds pretty good from her insulated bubble. International trade has

been a real fucker for working class, midwestern Americans.

[warrprayer]

3. Rustbelter here

In Erie Pa, a solid Democratic town.
Kick and rec for Bernie!

Here's why you should too...

[senseandsensibility]

4. She hasn't shown how out of touch she is yet?

After this past week-end, I wouldn't think she would have anything more to prove.

[EndElectoral]

5. So it's only the lack of dealing with currency manipulation that stopped HRC from supporting the TPP

[Art_from_Ark]

7. One of the biggest currency manipulation events in living memory

was the Plaza Accord that was pushed by Ronald Reagan in 1985.

[roguevalley]

6. then she's saying even after deep deep thought and

deliberation she still wants to fuck everyone in the ass with these trade deals. Nothing reflexive about that, Hill.

[eggman67]

8. Funny thing about CAFTA

Was that the released emails show that she was lobbying other Senators to vote for it while she herself was voting against it. So she helped get it passed while maintaining cover.

[vintx]

13. How can ANYONE support someone so two-faced?!

[AzDar]

9. She's ridiculous. Can't believe a word that comes out of her mouth...

[BernieforPres2016]

11. She and Tweety were bragging about how they're so open minded that their views have changed

While old Bernie believes what he's always believed. And after over 20 years of believing in the free trade mantra, they've finally come around to questioning it (though I don't believe Hillary really questions it, she will continue to do the bidding of corporations). And now we've come to the point of view (at least publicly) that Bernie has always had. Isn't Bernie stupid and rigid instead of being open minded like us????

[Octafish]

12. Ohio. Illinois...even Missouri: RUST BELT

[vintx]

14. Thanks, sharing that. nt

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

15. Hillary is for them because her Third Way supporters accept her apologies for mistakes

We'll only have you to blame now for more terrible "free market," Libertaian trade policies.

[snagglepuss]

16. KNR

[pdsimdars]

17. Even Forbes called her out for lying on this.

And yet, she keeps right on lying about it.
It reminds me of the Republicans. . . they just keep going with the big lie.

[pdsimdars]

18. Oh, I also liked the OP last week about all the trade deals she did vote for.

She had said in one debate that she only voted for CAFTA, but someone went and got all the trade deals and her votes on them. There was lots of them.

[Waiting For Everyman]

19. The 5% population fallacy. Rubio said it too.

The number of people we have is irrelevant to how much of the world's buying power we are.

We are 27% of the global consumer market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets

We don't need to trade with the world, we would do BETTER only selling to ourselves. Why? because then all of us would be employed (as it used to be) and at very high income (as it used to be, relatively speaking), with much better quality of life... except for the class that is vastly overpaid now at our expense.

Bankers, top executives, stars and such used to make a lot less. Why? Another sane idea called a 92% top tax rate for excessively high incomes. It stops people paying themselves ridiculous amounts of money just because they can.

This is not a theory, it was done before and worked fabulously well. Lots of things we used to do worked fabulously well. That's why we were #1 in the world in almost every measurable category.