2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHILLY WINS OHIO
Just heard an early call on NPR election coverage . . .
http://www.npr.org/sections/politics/
Will post a better link asap
Per AP she's leading in all five states:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-news-guide-trump-clinton-win-florida/2016/03/15/e6f97c28-eb0c-11e5-a9ce-681055c7a05f_story.html
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Just now.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)I'll look for a link . . .
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)Icing on the cake!
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)Edited.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)brooklynite
(94,571 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Response to ucrdem (Original post)
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MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)eom
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)would not win the general election. And please don't talk about polls right now showing him doing so well in the GE. He hasn't been SMASHED TO PIECES by the right wing ONSLAUGHT of "SocialistCommunistTaxraiser" night and day yet.
Sorry, but Hillary is much more of a national candidate than Bernie.
white_wolf
(6,238 posts)Honestly, I don't think Sanders can win. But I also firmly belive that if he doesn't then we all better get used to saying the words President Donald Trump. Gods the thought makes sick.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)Stallion
(6,474 posts)nm
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)It also shows that Michigan was a fluke.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...a week of yammering about the impact of 'trade' on the Hillary vote.
Looks like black voters showed up in force, making the impact that many of us touted since the beginning of the campaign. All of the denial and defensiveness from the Sanders camp, and the defiance that Northern states would be different, has basically dismissed this important group of voters to their campaign's peril.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)more than a little of a self Indulgence for some. Every voter and voting group should be respected and counted, and certainly not counted out ahead of time. You cannot be for democracy if you despise the people and processes of democracy.
4lbs
(6,855 posts)Michigan afterwards.
It seems a sizable number of Clinton supporters believed the 20 point polling margins in Michigan, and actually decided to vote Republican to mess with the GOP tally.
When they found out what happened, they were in shock.
It appears then the Clinton team told all their people to tell their supporters they have to vote for Clinton, no matter what the polls say for their state.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Hillary reigns.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)I've gotten to where I can't stand her, and I have defended her and admired her.
The Nancy Reagan comments, the death penalty comments, the defense of George W. Bush - and that's just the past week. Flawed candidate, and getting to seem to me to be just a sucky cynical person in general.
We had a real liberal progressive candidate and we may have thrown it away for the crappy patronizing Third Way centrist. I will defend her against the Republican nonsense if there is a Hillary Clinton administration, but won't be happy about it. Maybe she will surprise me. I doubt it. She sure as hell better beat the Republican in the general election.
Be happy all you want. It won't change the fact that this sucks.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Persondem
(1,936 posts)huge, baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, so glad the Tar Heel State finally did some smart voting. It's been since 2008 since we had a happy election at the state or national level.
FSogol
(45,485 posts)HILLY WINS OHIO
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Shades of Karl Rove?
Oh dear.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)As expected, Hillary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. Congrats to her.
nolabear
(41,963 posts)William769
(55,147 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Is there any other news? You say she might go 5 for 5!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)but Bernie is leading in MO by 2 or 3%:
RACE WINNING 2ND RPTG
Ill. Clinton 52% Sanders 47% 53%
Fla. Clinton 64% Sanders 33% 99%
Mo. Sanders 51% Clinton 48% 53%
N.C. Clinton 55% Sanders 41% 77%
Ohio Clinton 56% Sanders 43% 66%
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-news-guide-trump-clinton-win-florida/2016/03/15/e6f97c28-eb0c-11e5-a9ce-681055c7a05f_story.html
Helluva night isn't it!!
Number23
(24,544 posts)Very nice.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)but I'm gonna zip it cuz yeah it's a great night!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
elljay
(1,178 posts)We either get the fascist version or the moderate version.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)MinnieBlum
(38 posts)I'm now guessing that the difference between the polls in Michigan and the vote tally may have been due to the fact Hillary supporters didn't bother to vote because the polls had her so far ahead - they thought their vote was superfluous.
erlewyne
(1,115 posts)Hell no.
It ain't over til its over.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)Just getting ahead of the curve, dear.
I'm sure that will happen soon.
elmac
(4,642 posts)and terrifying election in my history, first voted for Carter. The corporate news created the T-baggers, created Trump and their wall street banksters are reaping the rewards. FUBAR