Why Hillary supporters believe Bernie is done.

[William769]

It's simple, do the math.

[w4rma]

1. Stop the clock when you're up is an age old tactic. (nt)

[lapfog_1]

2. if he was "done"

why are so many hillary people trying to convince DU that this is the case?

or are you just trying to convince yourselves?

[William769]

7. I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm just playing this tit for tat Game with Sanders supporters. The only difference between the two of us is, I'm using facts.

[upaloopa]

11. because we need to work on the general.

The longer Bernie drags this out the harder it will be to fight Trump.

I am sure Bernie sees what we all see. If he stays in for some ego reason he hurts all of us.

You all don't need Bernie to rise up and start a revolution.


Even if he was in the White House he faces the same Congress that Hillary would.

And with health care he would have to try and improve the ACA just as Hillary would. Single payer needs to start in the states. We have to over turn Citizens United by putting new Justices on the Supreme Court to do that.


Bernie and Hillary would nominate the same type of justices.

[jfern]

17. These unity calls are fucking pissing us off

[Coincidence]

22. He's made it clear he's going to drag it out until the end, trouble getting that through your skull?

[bkkyosemite]

27. Upa...we are not working on the General until the Primary is over!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

3. Not so fast

I think you have forgotten something

[Still In Wisconsin]

6. Not this one. I know when it's time

to sit down and shut up.

[Still In Wisconsin]

5. As a Bernie supporter who understands probability and statistics,

I agree. You won. So twist the knife in us Berners, such are the spoils of victory.

[Betty Karlson]

8. kindly don't invite them to knife me:

Hillary's backstabbing at Nancy Reagan's funeral was bad enough for me.

[William769]

9. Hey pab, how you doing?

[Betty Karlson]

12. still mad

[William769]

13. Me?

Never!

[Betty Karlson]

16. Mad at her, I mean.

I've got nothing against you.

[msanthrope]

32. Well, shite...that explains a lot. nt

[DURHAM D]

43. Remember how furious he/she was when

Justice Kagan was appointed by Obama?

[anotherproletariat]

20. See...this is exactly the problem with politics.

Everyone assumes that the actions of their rival candidate are malicious. Hillary didn't mean to backstab anyone (why, for gods sake would a presidential candidate do that on purpose?). She has been busy with the campaign, and on the way to the interview some aid gave her a few (incorrect) talking points that she repeated, then later apologized for. Because you already dislike her, you assume the worse, but come on people. We are all human. Mistakes are made, I am happy when people own up to them and apologize.

And on that topic...why would falsely crediting a dead women with something nice possibly be a 'backstab'. Everyone tries to say nice things when someone dies. It doesn't change history, or take away anyone's rights.

[Betty Karlson]

25. No, I despise her because that praise for Nancy confirmed her record:

DOMA, DADT, "marriage is a sacred union between man and woman" and the rest of the vile bile.

If you don't understand how praising Nancy Reagan for "silent activism" is a backstab to the people she and her gay-hating husband wanted to let die, if you think that is just an "oops" moment, then let me refer you to this post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1474965

and this one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511483223

And that last one also addresses Clinton's sorry attempts to say sorry.

[Autumn]

14. You do know that people can see your past posts

"Bernie supporter who understands probability and statistics"?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1055201

Bernie supporters do not say things like that about Bernie or his supporters.

[Betty Karlson]

15. Oh, that explains a lot.

Some Hill-shills are now suddenly truning into "Bernie-supporters who understand it is time to concede"?

Wow, new depths...

[bobbobbins01]

38. That is at least the second one tonight.

Both seem to forget that their posts and recs are visible to the public. I hope they're not representative of Hillary supporters on the whole, because they aren't doing themselves any favors.

[Betty Karlson]

39. No, these lies and more lies are just a new level of disgusting.

And next we will hear the blaming of millennials again: "why won't you cross this bridge we just burned down?"

[Still In Wisconsin]

19. Read down a little further in the thread. I remember that night. It was the night I got put on

timeout. Pure sarcasm. I've had hundreds of pro-Bernie posts. THAT was sarcasm. And, I was suicidal. But you can think what you want.

[riversedge]

30. Are you feeling better now? Serious question.

[Still In Wisconsin]

37. Well, I have two beautiful children to take care of and a loving wife so I sorta have to.

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The hardest part was having my sister call me a "fucking bastard" for supporting Bernie. She's been, other than my wife, my best friend for my entire life. She's got a LOT invested in Hillary personally, and I in Bernie. At least I had.

But it's over now. I really worry about our country and the world, and I honestly thought it might be our chance to re-claim our system of government from the ultra-wealthy. But again, Bernie lost, and resoundingly so. I'm not going anywhere in terms of doing myself in, and thanks for giving a damn. I hope Hillary does well. I will be voting for her.

[riversedge]

44. I am glad you

have a purpose in life--your family. And yes, you need them and they need you. So keep yourself grounded. And thanks for the conversation

In my younger days I probably would believe in a revolution. Sanders is appealing in many respects but I also think given the make up of our government, it will not happen.

I need to get some sleep eye.
Later.

[Old Crow]

21. Good find, Autumn; thank you. Poster's deceit noted. (N/T)

[Still In Wisconsin]

23. Read response # 19.

[Autumn]

24. You seem to hate Bernie and Hillary equally

Your hidden posts are not sarcasm. Anyway, you have a nice evening.

[Still In Wisconsin]

26. Three posts on ONE night. But, whatever.

[bravenak]

10. Yep

[SoLeftIAmRight]

18. Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

Cut it out

[geek tragedy]

35. Trash this forum for your own good nt

[onehandle]

29. Math has a liberal bias. nt

[bobbobbins01]

40. So you're admitting Bernie can still win?

Because he's the only liberal in the race. Hillary prefers the term 'progressive', which she has co-opted to mean as far left as I have to pretend to be until the GE.

[Peace Patriot]

31. Well, actually they can't add. It is NOT over.

It's just a "talking point" to get Sanders supporters to lose heart.

Clinton supporters are showing contempt for half the voters in the country, who haven't voted yet. That includes me.

So just shut up about "the math." Your talking about MY VOTE. I understand "the math" perfectly well and Sanders can still win the nomination. That is very clear FROM "THE MATH."

And besides all that, you really don't understand the Bernie Sanders campaign. It has never been just a "horse race." It is about NEW IDEAS, or, rather, some new, and some old that go back as far as Harry Truman who wanted Medicare for all, and the public university system in California and other places, which was FREE TUITION in the '60s and ''70s until the Reagan junta. So now, guess what? Hillary Clinton and her supporters are supporting REAGAN policies.

And you wonder why we won't quit.

[geek tragedy]

33. He isn't done, but the suspense is nt

[jillan]

34. Why Bernie supporters do not care.

We do not want Hillary to be the nominee. She does not have our vote.

Funny how that works.

[MohRokTah]

36. Delegate math is harsh to the trailing candidate

It's that whole reducing denominator over time when the numerator fails to reduce at an equivalent rate thing.

[Scootaloo]

41. Or we could go to your nasty little antisemitic hate site and see what y'all really beleive

[Carlo Marx]

42. Hillary supporters are at a disadvantage because they can't even articulate what Hillary stands for.

Nor can they list any meaningful accomplishments. It's like Santorum stuttering when asked why he supported Rubio. I heard a Clinton surrogate tonight on the Benjamin Dixon Show try and answer the 'name one Hillary accomplishment' with the children's chip program. Haha. Very funny. Throwing crumbs to children after you pushed welfare reform, which has been empirically determined to have increased poverty among women and children is insulting and a cynical betrayal of liberal values. Oh yes, Hillary just squirmed away from the label of liberal with Chris Matthews the other night.

[kstewart33]

47. Respectfully, that is ridiculous.

I don't think she's for Bernie's platform of pipe dreams.

[Gothmog]

45. Clinton has a larger delegate lead now than any lead that President Obama had in 2008

There is no way to overcome this delegate lead

[LexVegas]

46. He is more than done, he is Bernt. nt