Yet another plea - don't burn the boats

[Cosmocat]

I will cast my vote for Bernie in a month and have had that vote in his pocket for 9 months now.

But, we sit here today where I thought we would be back then.

Hillary is who she is ...

1) A warmed over politician
2) A moderate democrat generally
3) Comfy with big money
4) Somewhat hawkish

Big schism between her and Bernie policy wise.

But, while people can project how awesome Bernie would be in the general and how bad she will be, the simple reality is that in order to be on the ballot in the general you gotta win the primary.

And, like it or not, Hillary was too strong of a candidate for Bernie to beat in a democratic primary this go around.

End, of the day, its going to be Hillary v whoever the Rs put on the ballot.

And, as big as the schism separating Bernie and Hillary is, the schism separating Hillary and whoever that is will be much bigger.

Don't burn the boats, let the dust settle and make a sober decision when the time comes.

[Betty Karlson]

1. On matters of economy, Clinton is very close to Kasich.

So your position could do with a bit of nuance.

[DanTex]

7. That's absurd. Kasich wants a $12 minimum wage, higher taxes on the wealthy,

stronger Wall Street laws, expansion of ACA, more infrastructure spending, protecting union rights?

Uhh, no. Kasich wants tax cuts for the wealthy and slashing SS and Medicare and all the rest of the GOP policies.

[upaloopa]

2. What the hell is a warmed over politition?

Maybe 24 years in congress makes you a warmed over politician

[whatchamacallit]

8. From the crowd who love to talk about the importance of experience

[LWolf]

3. Too late. nt

[SamKnause]

4. Exactly.

[Lizzie Poppet]

5. "the schism separating Hillary and whoever that is will be much bigger."

Not on the majority of issues that matter most to me (by a lot), it won't be. Hillary is a center-right, Republican Lite disaster on economic politics.

[question everything]

6. Bottom line: the Supreme Court

Nothing else matters. Really. The Club for Growth started - too late - to air anti Trump ads after Scalia departed. If you lose Congress, you can come back in two year; if you lose a president - come back in four month. The Supreme Court is for generations.

[Cosmocat]

9. YEP

This where the mindless, yet fervent, loyalty to the party that the Rs have beats the herding cat dynamic of democrats.

They see the long game and big picture.

They have only slept on two elections, 06 and 08, in the last 25 years, and because of that have the majority of state houses and governors, and the majority in the SC until Scalia slept in.

[BernieforPres2016]

10. Sorry, I'm not buying it

I don't believe you or anybody else originating threads like this are Bernie supporters.

[Cosmocat]

17. Believe what you want.

I am voting Bernie for two primary reasons.

1) He is by far the most right on the issues
2) He speaks to progressive positions unabashedly, something that so few democrats do today

I would love to see a Bernie POTUS, but I know the people of this country all too well.

I said he was a really big long shot to win the nomination at the same time I was telling people Trump was no joke, and I have said he had their nomination in a sleeper hold starting last August.

Knowing how it is going to play out and accepting that doesn't change what I would like to see.

[magical thyme]

11. Hillary was not too strong of a candidate; she is an extremely flawed candidate

backed by an incredibly corrupt system. And Bernie is being systematically shut out by the media, the DNC and the DLC.

"Somewhat of a warhawk" has never seen a military action she didn't vote for, and many that she pushed hard for.

"Comfy with big money" well, so are high end hookers.

"Don't burn the boats" not sure who you're addressing but I can assure you that nobody on this board has changed my mind on anything.

We don't know what the "end of the day" will bring. Anything can happen between now and November. But the last time I looked, only one candidate is at the center of an FBI investigation.

[marions ghost]

13. ^^^

+++

[Cosmocat]

18. its politics

not afternoon tea.

She was too strong of a candidate in part for the reasons you note - much more institutional support, but mostly because she simply had too much name.

Not saying she was more right on the issues, she isn't.

But, sadly, elections a lot more about things other than the issues - a reality I resigned myself with long before the start of this primary.

[djean111]

12. Boats are burned, sorry.

And bye-bye, I have no patience with this crap any more.

Signed, atrocious Bernie supporter...

Oh I adore these "Bernie-But" things! But no one gets more than one shot at getting me to read one of theirs.

"Favorite group - Hillary Clinton".

[BernieforPres2016]

14. "Favorite group - Hillary Clinton"

LOL. They lie about as effectively as their leader.

[Cosmocat]

20. What is cute about that is

that I actually had unknowingly posted in the Hillary Group two days ago responding to a post that had been put on the home page, and now am banned from the Hillary group because I had defended Bernie ...

But, sure, you caught me ...

[Cosmocat]

19. Yes

three visits to the Hillary group in the last 90s days ...

Real Hillary flag waver there.

Point stands - believe what you want.

[99Forever]

15. "I will cast my vote for Bernie...."

Do you realize your profile, favorite group, and recs are public information?


Or do you think ACTUAL Sanders supporters are really that gullible?

[Cosmocat]

16. lol

yes, all of three posts at the Hillary group in 90 days ...

Jesus.

[SwampG8r]

21. Yep yall alreaxy burned the bridges

Now yall need to poke holes in all the boats too.