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One candidate would have been acceptable to progressives AND corporate Dems (Original Post) yurbud Mar 2016 OP
Because he knows how corrupt the system is. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #1
No, I don't think so. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #2
Definitely a mixed bag yurbud Mar 2016 #3
He was also an original DLCer. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #6
definitely, but I think he'dsqueaked by on his strong environmental stance with progressives yurbud Mar 2016 #10
It would help him a lot. Nt HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #22
Bill Clinton talked Gore into that Samantha Mar 2016 #14
No way RockaFowler Mar 2016 #19
Yep, it is true Samantha Mar 2016 #21
Likely he's happy doing the good he can on the issues he most cares about, and ignore the BS Nailzberg Mar 2016 #4
I can't remember Democrats ever renominating a once-failed candidate. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #5
They did. 1956. Adlai Stevenson Thirties Child Mar 2016 #8
And what happened that year explains why Dems haven't done it since. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #13
I like him a whole lot, but his time passed. closeupready Mar 2016 #7
Not sure I agree. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #9
I prefer Bernie, but this is a thought exercise. DLCers don't seem to make the effort yurbud Mar 2016 #11
Early on when they sensed Hillary might not be able to win and they didn't want Sanders Samantha Mar 2016 #12
The baggage of his breakup with Tipper would get dredged up, if nothing else. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #15
yep, Dems can't get divorced or cheat on spouse, but Repubs can sleep with underage boys, yurbud Mar 2016 #17
And let's not get started about what the farm state 'Thugs like: Ken Burch Mar 2016 #18
Like this classic Alan Colmes interview... yurbud Mar 2016 #25
Not to me, he wouldn't... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #16
Fuck what Corporate Dems want.[n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #20
Isn't he a big fan of NAFTA? I remember him debating Ross Perot. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #23
I think that candidate would have been Joe Biden phleshdef Mar 2016 #24
establishment cred cancels out his ability to help middle class. yurbud Mar 2016 #27
That's some really simple minded binary thinking phleshdef Mar 2016 #28
When has Biden intentionally stopped the rich from screwing the rest of us? yurbud Mar 2016 #29
"At best, he would be like Obama"... and thats good enough for me. phleshdef Mar 2016 #31
Undoubtedly shut out by DNC. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #26
Why do some anti-Clinton people like Gore and Obama? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #30
you are mostly right. my point was more... yurbud Mar 2016 #32

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,267 posts)
2. No, I don't think so.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016

His work on climate change has been a lot more important. Also, I'm not sure how "progressive" he really is, considering he chose Joe Liebermann as his running mate.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
6. He was also an original DLCer.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:01 PM
Mar 2016

His environmental record is good, but would have to think carefully about the rest.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
14. Bill Clinton talked Gore into that
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:32 PM
Mar 2016

He told Gore Lieberman would help him carry Florida, and Gore really needed Florida. Gore and Lieberman were never compatriots; the Liebermans and the Clintons are longstanding good friends.

Sam

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
19. No way
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/11/15/271521/-

He selected Joseph Lieberman, a Clinton administration critic, as his vice-presidential running mate. With few exceptions (e.g., a New York fundraiser), Gore and President Clinton never campaigned together, a clear break from their teamwork in 1992 and 1996. In keeping with the maxim, "actions speak louder than words," recall how passionately the Gores kissed before the Democratic nominee delivered his acceptance speech. Was this a sign that their marriage was a different kind of relationship than what the country had observed in the Clintons the previous eight years?


Lieberman wanted to impeach Bill Clinton before the Independent Investigation even came out

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
21. Yep, it is true
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

and I can believe Lieberman wanted to impeach Bill Clinton before the Independent Investigation came out.

I think they are still friends today.

Sam

Nailzberg

(4,610 posts)
4. Likely he's happy doing the good he can on the issues he most cares about, and ignore the BS
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

And maybe Al has had enough of the other stuff. As president, he wouldn't get to ignore the BS.

But you're right, he could've run in 08, he could've run now. And he'd have been a real interesting voice in the mix.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. And what happened that year explains why Dems haven't done it since.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

ReThugs haven't done it since '68, and the only reason it worked for them then was that Johnson's bloodyminded insistence on keeping us in Vietnam destroyed the party.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
7. I like him a whole lot, but his time passed.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

Make no mistake, he WON, but it was stolen from him. After that kind of earthshattering injustice, don't you think most anyone would be 100% over it?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
11. I prefer Bernie, but this is a thought exercise. DLCers don't seem to make the effort
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:27 PM
Mar 2016

to appeal to progressives except on cultural issues. On core economic, foreign policy, trade, and the like, they spout bland platitudes at election time then do what their Wall Street masters tell them once in office.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
12. Early on when they sensed Hillary might not be able to win and they didn't want Sanders
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:29 PM
Mar 2016

Al Gore was one of three people asked to consider jumping in. He declined. He has a great life now and I don't blame him.

Sam

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. The baggage of his breakup with Tipper would get dredged up, if nothing else.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

Probably 80% of the R's are sleeping around in some way or other, but they'd still feel entitled to get in touch with their inner Cotton Mather about that.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
17. yep, Dems can't get divorced or cheat on spouse, but Repubs can sleep with underage boys,
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

pay prostitutes to change their poopy dipeys, and just about anything else without fear of removal from office.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
16. Not to me, he wouldn't...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

...he is another corporatist in my book, and also, he's not enough of a fighter. He selected Joe Fucking Lieberman for his running mate, based in part on Joe's moralistic finger-wagging (he was the very first Democrat to chide Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky debacle), and when Bush stole the election he failed to fight as hard as he should have IMO.

No, he had his day.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
23. Isn't he a big fan of NAFTA? I remember him debating Ross Perot.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

Has he ever renounced that position?

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
24. I think that candidate would have been Joe Biden
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

He has establishment cred and middle-class background cred and he has genuine authenticity

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
27. establishment cred cancels out his ability to help middle class.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Didn't his son have stock in some petroleum interests in Ukraine?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
29. When has Biden intentionally stopped the rich from screwing the rest of us?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:29 PM
Mar 2016

At best, he would be like Obama: he would help us when it also helps the rich or at least they don't object to helping.

On foreign policy, he would probably be somewhere between Obama and Hillary, which is still too hawkish for me.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
31. "At best, he would be like Obama"... and thats good enough for me.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

I voted for Bernie here in Ohio. And would love to see him beat the odds and pull off the nomination. But I don't live in a fantasy world either.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
30. Why do some anti-Clinton people like Gore and Obama?
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

I don't get it. Gore, the Clintons, Kerry, Obama...they're all cut from the same cloth.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
32. you are mostly right. my point was more...
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

That the DLC/New Dems care so little what the progressive base thinks that they don't even bother to try to find a candidate who will fire us up a bit (while still carrying his quota of corporate water).

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