2016 Postmortem
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(4,185 posts)"who was there for us when everyone hated us," as compared with, "Hillary Clinton is the better candidate for me because she actively fought against my rights as an LGBT person."
Mike Figueredo is brilliant in decrypting the half-truths and lies told about Sanders' record on LGBT rights to make Clinton's stinking product smell like a rose. Thanks for posting this, vintx.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)A classic textbook example. I can think of no other explanation than that for the constant blindness to reality.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)so the best policy is to surrender out of fear and help throw shade on Sanders' record!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)City marriage declaration designating marriage between a man and a woman?
I'll see if I can find it.
Update https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8FLYbegXp9JNENTR0pVelk3bHM/view
LexVegas
(5,999 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)He was trying to stop a bad bill -- DOMA -- with a constitutional argument, to give legislators a way to oppose it that would keep them off the hook on the issue.
vintx
(1,748 posts)Something that some people think he's no good at, despite his record. (Thanks to those 'artful smears')
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)That's why he voted against DOMA.
Here is a quote from 2006:
He didn't want the feds overturning states that passed same sex marriage legislation.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Also note it says "husband and wife" not a "man and a woman"....That may sound like a technicality -- but it is NOT a statement against gay marriage
karynnj
(59,466 posts)No, I do not have a link for this, but was told this by several Burlingtonians. That proclamation, which he did not write, was not controversial in 1982. Unlike, DOMA, which Sanders was among the few to vote against.
This strikes me similar to HRC raising the House vote on the commodities future modernization vote that only FOUR Congressmen, led by Ron Paul voted against to argue he was not really pro regulation.
I really do not get why her team is trying to attack the core of who Bernie Sanders is. Including attacking his real civil rights record, his real inclusiveness and his real record of holding Wall Street accountable. This when an underlying message is that he is too extreme in the other direction.
At this point, she is very likely to win, that she and her campaign is pushing meme aimed to destroy Sanders is something that appalls me. Obama did not do this in the far closer 2008 race and there was no hint of this in 2004 or 2000.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Why do you make up falsehoods?
LexVegas
(5,999 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Your candidate on the other hand:
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan in particular Mrs. Reagan we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."
I love the wise crack about other people's memories she opens with....self serving, ironic and offensive.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,243 posts).... those memes are no longer politically expedient for that segment of our conservadems.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Organized echoes, any way.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Most of us voted for Obama in 2008 knowing that he opposed marriage equality at that time. Basing your choice of candidate upon the precise time they evolved seems a little silly.