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Media disparages Bernie Sanders' pro-gay rights record (Original Post) vintx Mar 2016 OP
"Sanders, the better candidate by a mile" Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #1
HRC admitted she was the worse candidate, but endorsed her anyway! MisterP Mar 2016 #9
Confirmation bias Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #17
and it's well-known that Clinton has enemies lists and keeps grudges for decades MisterP Mar 2016 #19
Didnt Mayor Bernie Sanders sign an... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #2
He did. He also believed marriage was a states rights issue. He has since evolved. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #4
Look up WHY he did that Armstead Mar 2016 #6
It's called politics. vintx Mar 2016 #16
That is a distortion, he supported states' rights to PASS marriage equality. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #13
It was a silly ordinance to honor the family and marriage at a totally different time Armstead Mar 2016 #5
He also as mayor gave health care benefits to all kinds of families karynnj Mar 2016 #8
No that's a lie, it says nothing about marriage between "a man and a woman". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #11
He has evolved to his current position as has many politicians. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #3
He didn't need to evolve because he never opposed marriage equality. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Team Hillary is still trying to erase Hillary's revision of history to favor Ron and Nancy Reagan Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #7
*cough cough* pinebox Mar 2016 #10
Yep. I suppose there is a "dollar bin" containing "poutrage" and "pony" tshirts now that .... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #14
lol "Pony tshirts" pinebox Mar 2016 #15
Seems to be a paid echo chamber. Octafish Mar 2016 #18
Everyone has evolved on marriage equality, including Obama, Hillary and Bernie. Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #20

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
1. "Sanders, the better candidate by a mile"
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Mar 2016

"who was there for us when everyone hated us," as compared with, "Hillary Clinton is the better candidate for me because she actively fought against my rights as an LGBT person."

Mike Figueredo is brilliant in decrypting the half-truths and lies told about Sanders' record on LGBT rights to make Clinton's stinking product smell like a rose. Thanks for posting this, vintx.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
17. Confirmation bias
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

A classic textbook example. I can think of no other explanation than that for the constant blindness to reality.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
19. and it's well-known that Clinton has enemies lists and keeps grudges for decades
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

so the best policy is to surrender out of fear and help throw shade on Sanders' record!

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
2. Didnt Mayor Bernie Sanders sign an...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

City marriage declaration designating marriage between a man and a woman?

I'll see if I can find it.

Update https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8FLYbegXp9JNENTR0pVelk3bHM/view

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
6. Look up WHY he did that
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

He was trying to stop a bad bill -- DOMA -- with a constitutional argument, to give legislators a way to oppose it that would keep them off the hook on the issue.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
16. It's called politics.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

Something that some people think he's no good at, despite his record. (Thanks to those 'artful smears')

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. That is a distortion, he supported states' rights to PASS marriage equality.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

That's why he voted against DOMA.

Here is a quote from 2006:

I was a strong supporter of civil unions, I believe that. I voted against the DOMA bill, I believe that the federal government should not be involved in overturning Massachusetts or any other the state because I think the whole issue of marriage is a state issue.


He didn't want the feds overturning states that passed same sex marriage legislation.
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
5. It was a silly ordinance to honor the family and marriage at a totally different time
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

Also note it says "husband and wife" not a "man and a woman"....That may sound like a technicality -- but it is NOT a statement against gay marriage

karynnj

(59,466 posts)
8. He also as mayor gave health care benefits to all kinds of families
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

No, I do not have a link for this, but was told this by several Burlingtonians. That proclamation, which he did not write, was not controversial in 1982. Unlike, DOMA, which Sanders was among the few to vote against.

This strikes me similar to HRC raising the House vote on the commodities future modernization vote that only FOUR Congressmen, led by Ron Paul voted against to argue he was not really pro regulation.

I really do not get why her team is trying to attack the core of who Bernie Sanders is. Including attacking his real civil rights record, his real inclusiveness and his real record of holding Wall Street accountable. This when an underlying message is that he is too extreme in the other direction.

At this point, she is very likely to win, that she and her campaign is pushing meme aimed to destroy Sanders is something that appalls me. Obama did not do this in the far closer 2008 race and there was no hint of this in 2004 or 2000.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
11. No that's a lie, it says nothing about marriage between "a man and a woman".
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

Why do you make up falsehoods?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
7. Team Hillary is still trying to erase Hillary's revision of history to favor Ron and Nancy Reagan
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016



"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan — in particular Mrs. Reagan — we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

I love the wise crack about other people's memories she opens with....self serving, ironic and offensive.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,243 posts)
14. Yep. I suppose there is a "dollar bin" containing "poutrage" and "pony" tshirts now that ....
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:07 PM
Mar 2016

.... those memes are no longer politically expedient for that segment of our conservadems.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
20. Everyone has evolved on marriage equality, including Obama, Hillary and Bernie.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

Most of us voted for Obama in 2008 knowing that he opposed marriage equality at that time. Basing your choice of candidate upon the precise time they evolved seems a little silly.

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