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insta8er

(960 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:32 PM Mar 2016

How many mistakes, misstatements, misspeakings and outright wrong decisions did HRC made in

Last edited Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:17 PM - Edit history (9)

her professional career that have cost people to lose their livelihood and or lives? Please help compile that list.
And to the Hill Cheersquad, why would you want someone with questionable decision making skills become the leader of this country?

1. Iraq
2. Honduras
3. Healthcare flub, Bernie was standing behind her in 93/94.
4. Shape-shifting aka changing positions when it is politically convenient.
5. NAFTA
6. Libya
7. Sniper fire Bosnia
8. Death broke when they left the white house.
9. Change in her opinion on bankruptcy bill from 2001
10. Hillary Clinton Voted to Continue Cluster Bombing Civilians
11. Pro TPP called it the gold standard in trade agreements. Before she was against it.
12. "Misspoken" during Nancy Reagan's funeral about gays and HIV.
13. She had the prison industrial complex in her superpac.

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How many mistakes, misstatements, misspeakings and outright wrong decisions did HRC made in (Original Post) insta8er Mar 2016 OP
Honduras Doctor_J Mar 2016 #1
This is getting OLD fun n serious Mar 2016 #2
Yeah you are right, a grumpy old man vs a person with questionable morals and decision making skill insta8er Mar 2016 #4
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #9
A lot of right-wingers now post here. Broward Mar 2016 #16
Yeah, that's way more annoying than actual people getting KILLED. djean111 Mar 2016 #5
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #13
Not sure what you are talking about - BUT - Hillary is responsible for the deaths of many people djean111 Mar 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author fun n serious Mar 2016 #18
Are you able to provide a link to your source for Mr. Sanders Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #21
Here since that poster is now locked out for quoting the Senator... Agschmid Mar 2016 #23
Yes, I see. The motherjones article is clearly intended as a hit-piece. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #24
I am 30 and am gay, I had a whole lot of guilt about sex thrust upon me. Agschmid Mar 2016 #27
One must move on. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #28
Mother Jones is the holy grail of 'progressive' thought until they report on Bernie, I suppose. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #34
Tell me about it. Every day another corrupt revelation Doctor_J Mar 2016 #11
She didn't know where Bernie was during her healthcare fight, he was standing behind her. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #3
After opposing her plan every step of the way. Clinton was right to question him on that. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #8
You guys are fucking hillarious. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #22
Maybe because her plan was a corporate dog... dchill Mar 2016 #30
But this is what she had to say at the time NWCorona Mar 2016 #32
1172 to 846...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #6
Comprehension? difficult subject I know...re read the thread again. insta8er Mar 2016 #10
Welcome to DU...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #12
lol. one_voice Mar 2016 #14
NAFTA and Libya just to name two. Broward Mar 2016 #15
Reagan and gays Zira Mar 2016 #36
Didn't she land under heavy fire one time and run under cover off of the Tarmac? Seeinghope Mar 2016 #19
Added! insta8er Mar 2016 #20
Our Military Pilots called it a "corkscrew" landing? & yes, the outdoor event was canceled aswell. Sunlei Mar 2016 #40
You need an English class. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #25
Thank you, duly noted. Feel free to bash me and my use of the English language some more. If it insta8er Mar 2016 #39
"Change in her opinion on bankruptcy bill from 2001" Seeinghope Mar 2016 #26
Thanks for visiting DU Mr Trump, your fellow Republicans are so proud of you. Sunlei Mar 2016 #29
And that is all you can come up with? insta8er Mar 2016 #33
No Mr Trump, you need to make a public messageboard for your followers. I dare you! Sunlei Mar 2016 #41
Who are you talking to? seeing ghosts? hahahahhaahha lol insta8er Mar 2016 #42
/cackles back. No just passing you some "Text Neck" EnJoY :P Sunlei Mar 2016 #44
auto bailout, English Only, trying to make BLM into a sockpuppet and then her foot soldiers MisterP Mar 2016 #31
Voting to Continue to Cluster Bomb Civilians pugetres Mar 2016 #35
TPP floppyboo Mar 2016 #37
Other than Reagan and gays she had to get rid of the GEO group out of her superpac Zira Mar 2016 #38
Sounds about right for someone who's doing something other than be angry and talk on radio shows uponit7771 Mar 2016 #43
 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
2. This is getting OLD
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

Lets talk about Robot Sanders. Same rhetoric everyday. He doesn't directly answer questions from reporters either. He side tracks to his same ol rhetoric every time. As days go by he is getting meaner and grumpier. He walks out on interviews rather than answer hard questions. He is not presidential at all.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
4. Yeah you are right, a grumpy old man vs a person with questionable morals and decision making skill
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

I guess it all comes down to ones own values.

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djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Yeah, that's way more annoying than actual people getting KILLED.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

Oh, and yeah, it must be strange, Bernie has stood by the same principles his whole life, and Hillary changes her "principles" to suit the audience, the poll, the focus group.

OMFG.

Response to djean111 (Reply #5)

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
17. Not sure what you are talking about - BUT - Hillary is responsible for the deaths of many people
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

and would be, IMO, responsible for the deaths of many more. Not an acceptable substitute for Bernie. No matter how nastily you smear him.

Response to djean111 (Reply #17)

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
24. Yes, I see. The motherjones article is clearly intended as a hit-piece.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

These are all ideas I recall coming across in the '70s or late '60s, and reflective of social-scientific research quite popular back in the day.

The Sanders quote that comes closest to the above hidden false accusation merely poses what is, imho, an entirely reasonable question (then and now):

How much guilt, nervousness have you imbued in your daughter with regard to sex? If she is 16, 3 years beyond puberty and the time which nature set forth for childbearing, and spent a night out with her boyfriend, what is your reaction? Do you take her to a psychiatrist because she is "maladjusted," or a "prostitute," or are you happy that she has found someone with whom she can share love? Are you concerned about HER happiness, or about your "reputation" in the community?


By the way, such a sense of guilt was imposed on me in my childhood (it was the norm), and I'm a guy. For quite a while the consequences hurt a lot.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
27. I am 30 and am gay, I had a whole lot of guilt about sex thrust upon me.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

Luckily I've moved on now.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. Tell me about it. Every day another corrupt revelation
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

If she was a male with her right wing politics and mile long list of sleaze, graft, and corruption, she wouldn't even hae entered the race.

onecaliberal

(32,811 posts)
22. You guys are fucking hillarious.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:54 PM
Mar 2016

Is that why she wrote him a letter thanking him for all his support? Don't bother I won't see it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. Our Military Pilots called it a "corkscrew" landing? & yes, the outdoor event was canceled aswell.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:05 PM
Mar 2016

Get out the airsickness bags, seems like those evasive/defensive? type landings were routine in countries with danger from snipers.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
25. You need an English class.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

But the parts that I can read, without trying to figure out what your misspellings and grammatical errors may mean, is complete nonsense.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
39. Thank you, duly noted. Feel free to bash me and my use of the English language some more. If it
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

makes you feel better.

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
26. "Change in her opinion on bankruptcy bill from 2001"
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

According to Warren, Clinton went back to the White House and urged the administration to oppose the legislation. And in 2000, President Bill Clinton vetoed the Bankruptcy Reform Act.
Mrs. Clinton took credit for that veto, Warren told Moyers. “She turned around a whole administration on the subject of bankruptcy. She got it.”

Warren also noted, Clinton went on to support bankruptcy reform legislation in 2001, when she was a senator.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton_us_562e4eefe4b0ec0a389519e3

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
31. auto bailout, English Only, trying to make BLM into a sockpuppet and then her foot soldiers
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:34 PM
Mar 2016

screech whenever anyone dares point out she's the only one they have to protesting anymore (especially since it makes the Jew look good), and now Arpaio

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
37. TPP
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:52 PM
Mar 2016

From the Washington Post 2015/10/08:

And of course, Ms. Clinton’s opposition to the TPP flies in the face of her repeated statements to the opposite effect when she was Mr. Obama’s secretary of state — and after. “It’s safe to say that the TPP won’t be perfect — no deal negotiated among a dozen countries ever will be — but its higher standards, if implemented and enforced, should benefit American businesses and workers,” Ms. Clinton wrote in her post-State Department memoir, “Hard Choices.” As Ms. Clinton understood then, the TPP was not only about economics but also about geopolitics. It’s particularly crucial to Mr. Obama’s essential effort to strengthen U.S. ties to Japan and other East Asian nations, thus counterbalancing China, a “rebalance” for which Ms. Clinton once proudly claimed some authorship.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ms-clinton-avoids-the-hard-choice-on-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/10/08/a795a0cc-6df6-11e5-9bfe-e59f5e244f92_story.html

edit to add from business insider:
As a member of the Obama administration, Clinton repeatedly boosted the deal. CNN once even tallied up 45 times Clinton pushed the Trans-Pacific Partnership, including when she called it a "gold standard in trade agreements."

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-tpp-trans-pacific-trade-bernie-sanders

I add this as it should leave one to question taking advise from someone, and is now saying she was wrong because she didn't know the details. Flogging an idea of great importance that you know close to nothing about, except that it is golden? Why would she believe it was a 'gold standard'? Who told her that, and why repeat it blindly?
 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
38. Other than Reagan and gays she had to get rid of the GEO group out of her superpac
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:53 PM
Mar 2016

and tell eveyrone she would donate the money from them to charity and that she didn't realize she had the prison industrial complex in her superpac. She did this only after the Huffington Post exposed her for having them in it.

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