Bill is really sliding down the sleazy poll while trying to push his wife up the polls

[Seeinghope]

I am sorry but I just feel that President of the United States should be above stumping on the campaign trail for his wife. Pulling some of the shenanigans like campaigning on election days, blocking the entrance to entering the polling places, shooing away Bernie Sanders voters so that Hillary Clinton voters could take a picture with him.....

Here she is trying to tell is that she is qualified to be the most powerful leader of the world yet her husband, who still is obviously the star power here, has to go out to help her win the election.

Between the 2 of them I don't know who is more pitiful.

Both of them having to use their vast resources to fight David. Must be a hard fight if it takes the two of them. It really should have been a cake walk.

Hillary Clinton is not able to do this w/o the help of her husband? What does that really say for feminism? You need hubby to climb to the top?

If Elizabeth Warren would be running that would be a career that I could respect BECAUSE she obviously did not need a superstar husband to get her to the position that she is in now. She got it TOTALLY on her own merit.

[Thinkingabout]

1. So spouses are restricted from stumping for their candidate spouses?

[snowy owl]

53. YES. Per the law, no stumping at polling places. You should know that.

He says he's not stumping. But he impedes traffic and makes voters wait. You for that?

[Thinkingabout]

97. Exactly what law are you talking which prevents anyone from going to polling places,

News reporters goes to polling places, poll watchers goes to polling places. Are you sure the Sanders supporters was voters at this location and maybe the supporters was preventing people from entering and voting. I watched the complete video. They were chanting, standing right by Bill Clinton, address this situation. In fact the same rules applies to the voters as does the non voters.

[Lucinda]

101. He broke NO laws!

[snowy owl]

104. Lucinda,Thinkaboutit-you need to "think" about it-WAS HE VOTING 4 TIMES?

http://hubpages.com/politics/Sanders-Voters-in-MA-to-Sue-Bill-Clinton-for-Illegal-Electioneering-During-Primary#comment-16760807

On that Tuesday, known as "Super Tuesday," reports emerged, to the consternation of Sanders supporters, that Bill Clinton was illegally campaigning within 150 feet of polling stations during voting hours, in some cases walking inside the stations, all of which Massachusetts law expressly prohibits. Laws governing how close to a polling station one can campaign on voting days are similar in all 50 states.

A draft copy of a civil action posted in a Drop Box account states:

"On March 1st, “Super Tuesday” in the Massachusetts Democratic primary...Bill Clinton, did disenfranchise a large group of voters by diluting their votes through illegal campaign activity in and near polling stations.

And what do you think he was doing? Voting four times?

[SidDithers]

2. Uh huh...nt

Sid

[hrmjustin]

3. You are just a special type of cute ain't you.

[Fawke Em]

4. Well, the voters in Massachusetts are suing Bill, now.

http://hubpages.com/politics/Sanders-Voters-in-MA-to-Sue-Bill-Clinton-for-Illegal-Electioneering-During-Primary

[hrmjustin]

6. That is so pathetic.

[Fawke Em]

10. It's pathetic to protect voters' rights?

Is this DU?

[hrmjustin]

11. Bill Clinton did no such thing and no court will rule for this nuisance lawsuit.

[Fawke Em]

12. Yes. He did.

Standing in front of polling places with a bullhorn, having your security detail block voters and glad-hand inside a polling place is in violation of electioneering laws in the state.

Did you even read the article and the excerpts from the lawsuit?

And, I do think the court will take it and adjudicate it, but I'm not sure if the remedy is what the plantiff's are asking or if its simply a fine.

[hrmjustin]

13. The AG said he broke no such law. But hey you guys need an excuse to explain the Massachusetts

loss. Really sad that you guys are pushing this lie that he broke the law.

[Ned_Devine]

20. You must not be from MA

[hrmjustin]

22. NY.

[Ned_Devine]

24. I'm from MA and it was for real. People were taking video and calling in complaints. It was a mess

I was genuinely surprised at how disruptive it was, because it was four or five polling places in heavily trafficked areas where it took place. The problem was that all of our state's (D)'s were in the Hillary camp which makes me think they were cool about turning a blind eye to it all.

[hrmjustin]

25. I will take the ag's word he broke no law.

Could it have been better manages yes but no crime happened.

[Ned_Devine]

27. You may have sung a different tune had it been your candidate...

...that lost a state under questionable circumstances like this. But I'm not a mind reader, so maybe not.

[hrmjustin]

29. 17,000 people were prevented from voting?

[Ned_Devine]

31. There were some big towns with high populations that were held up for hours during these shenanigans

Mind you, this was a work day where people don't have an extra three hours to stand in line in a city like New Bedford. We may never know how many votes were lost, but I do know that the exit poll numbers didn't match the final result. In fact it was a 6 point swing. Up until 2004 when GWB stole Ohio from John Kerry, exit poll numbers always matched the final numbers within a point or so.

[hrmjustin]

35. Exit polls are not perfect.

They don't account for absentee ballits and they over state Sanders numbers. Same thing happened in 2008. The numbers over exaggerated Obama's numbers in the primary.

[Seeinghope]

46. Watch the video's that I posted and then in all good conscience tell me that the AG is actually

Right.

What he did was voter suppression.

[hrmjustin]

57. Good luck with that argument.

[noiretextatique]

103. depends on what the definition of is is

AG has already endorsed Clinton. but SOS Galvin didn't find any evidence of electioneering, in spite of evidence to the contrary. It helps to have tentacles that reach high places.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/herald_bulldog/2015/08/ag_maura_healey_endorses_hillary_clinton

Though a representative for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign told Boston he received a dozen complaints that Clinton’s speech blocked voters from reaching the polling place, Brian McNiff of Secretary Bill Galvin’s office said the polls were “never inaccessible.”

Massachusetts election law prohibits any person from distributing “campaign material intended to influence the vote of a voter in the ongoing election” within 150 of a polling location. In addition, “no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election,” the law reads.


McNiff told the New Bedford Standard-Times via email Thursday “there was no violation,” despite Clinton and Mitchell standing, by the paper’s estimate, 85 feet from the polling place “The Secretary of State has already said it’s not looking into the matter any further. That office has made its decision,” Mitchell told the Standard-Times.
.

[Seeinghope]

51. Watch the video..the whole video

[Politicalboi]

15. They are pathetic

They support this shit. Like I said, don't forget this come time to support the nominee. If you feel slighted, show them your not going to cave in the end. If the law can't do anything, we still can. Fuck them and their cheating. We'll see more of this I'm sure. Don't let them win.

[George II]

19. The MA Secretary of State already determined that there was no infraction.

[Agschmid]

62. They don't care.

[Logical]

78. Bill is pathetic! Surprised you agree! Nt

[840high]

79. Why?

[cantbeserious]

26. As They Rightfully Should

eom

[Major Hogwash]

66. Good.

He deserves it.

[snowy owl]

84. Oh, didn't you know...clintons above the law?

I just added my comment to the link. Thanks for providing.

[NurseJackie]

5. Oh brother! GMAFB!

[RandySF]

7. So Bill Clinton blocked 17,000 voters from a polling place and cost Bernie the primary?

Gotcha

[Thinkingabout]

38. It was probably the Bernie people chanting Bernie Bernie Bernie which blocked

Hillary voters.

[AzDar]

9. K & R

[zappaman]

14. Ok. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. "Ok. n/t."

[DemonGoddess]

17. alrighty then n/t

[FarPoint]

18. Hillary is the first former First Lady to ever run for President...

Bill Clinton campaigned for his wife in 2008 as well...He campaigned for Barack Obama, Elizabeth Warren, and at least 1,000 other Democratic candidates running for political office over the years....

I sense you are bitter because ...well, I can't imagine why?

[Seeinghope]

28. Bill Clinton called for a photo op on Election Day

Very close to the legal limits of, I believe, 150 ft of each the polling places across the state.

He shooed the Bernie Sanders voters away and pulled the Hillary Clinton voters in to take pictures and disrupted voting. Was it against the law? Some say yes some say no. Was it sleazy? Was it against the seriousness of holding the right to vote be impeded by some stunt like this. Presidents of the United States travels with an entourage, which holds up traffic, blocks streets, entrances to areas for parking to vote...... This all was unprecedented.

President of the United States Bill Clinton campaigning for his wife Hillary Clinton shows a weakness in her candidacy. Bill Clinton is using the office of President of the United States to influence the vote.

Spouses campaigning for spouses is not a problem except when you have a superstar President of the United States husband carrying you all of the way which is what he did for Hillary Clinton.

It is easy. Take Bill Clinton out of the equation and where would Hillary Clinton be today? Definitely not a contender for being President of the United States.

I think that his a dual power trip for the 2 of them.

[FarPoint]

30. Just chill....

Get over it...Bill Clinton is on our side....A Democratic Leader.... It's campaign season... Go work a few actual top level campaigns...you may learn something new.

[Seeinghope]

41. Lying and cheating? No thanks. You get what you give. Good luck with that.

[FarPoint]

45. Have you ever worked in a National Political Campaign?

It does not appear you have thus only judge a situation from your couch and keyboard. Have you ever coordinated a sit-down dinner party for 150? Probably not...Just saying, it's all complicated.

[Seeinghope]

64. Honesty isn't complicated.

Counting 150 ft outside of a polling place is not complicated
Being inside of a polling place when you are not supposed to be within 150 ft of a polling place is not complicated. It is a flagrant violation of laws.
I suppose if you are the ordained King, above the law Bill Clinton, than nothing in the law books matter. Only "coordinating a dinner for 150" people count in your mind.

I do that kind of thing without batting an eye. Have you ever heard of weddings?

[FarPoint]

70. Jeeze already...

Get over it.....Support our Democratic Candidates on a Democratic Discussion Board....you have an aggressive tendency... Yuck.

[Thinkingabout]

40. There was people chanting Bernie Bernie Bernie within the 150 ft also,

What happens to them?

[Seeinghope]

42. What happened to the APOLOGY that you promised?

Those people were VOTERS!

Unless I missed something, was Bill Clinton voting?

Did you even watch the videos?

[Thinkingabout]

48. They were chanting and preventing Hillary voters from voting, nothing for me

To apologize, I just pointed out Bernie supporters was there also. This isn't going anywhere, especially when both candidates had people there. It has already been decided.

[Seeinghope]

65. Voters. Voters. Voters. NOT THE CANDIDATE SPOUSE. ----------President of the United States

BIG DIFFERENCES!


President of the United States---------Voter Get the difference

[Thinkingabout]

96. No it isn't, Bill Clinton is still a citizen of the US, BTW, Bill Clinton's term as president ended

in 2001. News reporters goes to polling places, poll watchers goes to polling places. What law prevents Bill Clinton from going to a polling place?

[quickesst]

21. Show me one picture...

" blocking the entrance to entering the polling places, shooing away Bernie Sanders voters so that Hillary Clinton voters could take a picture with him..... "

... Yep, just one picture of Bill Clinton blocking anyone and shooing Bernie's voters. Did a Bernie voter step to the right and Bill step to the left to block her/him? A video would be even better. I've got an apology waiting right here for you.

[Seeinghope]

36. Don't you watch the news?

Or do you just watch Hillary Clinton speeches?

[quickesst]

59. I watch the news everyday...

... And I still haven't seen Bill blocking or shooing anyone. Got a pic or a video? Show me.

[Seeinghope]

39. APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 not 1, but 2 clips (one showing a couple of instances of being within 150 ft of polling place)

[Thinkingabout]

43. Who is taking the pictures, Bernie supporters. There you go, what goes with those?

[Seeinghope]

73. Seriously? Are you that desperate? You are saying that Bill Clinton showed up and

Told the Bernie Sanders people to move so that he could get pictures with the Hillary Clinton voters. You are saying that the Bernie Sanders Sanders voters filmed it.......

You know what....what if they did. That doesn't make any difference BECAUSE

It did not make Bill Clinton show up to a polling place

It did not make Bill Clinton start talking to the Hillary Clinton supporters

It did not make Bill Clinton shoo the Bernie Sanders voters out of the way and call the Hillary Clinton over so that they could take pictures

It did not make Bill Clinton make a speech...campaign speech for Hillary Clinton


Everything that Bill Clinton did he did of his volition and against the law.

[Thinkingabout]

95. There is not exception for the supporters of Sanders either, no I am not desperate, I am not the one

complaining about Bill Clinton showing up at a polling place. You have to understand everyone has to follow the rules, it is not rules for Hillary supporters and another for Sanders supporters. If there is a complaint about Bill being within 150 feet then there has to be a complaint against the Sanders supporters, Bill was not chanting Hillary Hillary Hillary, let's get the story on the correct line. What do you think should happen to the Sanders supporters?

[quickesst]

63. Still don't see Bill...

... Blocking or shooing anyone. Unless you have a picture or a video demonstrating Bill Clinton shooing or blocking someone the OP is not accurate. I do not apologize to dishonesty.

[Seeinghope]

85. Then you must be blind or in heavy duty Denial!

.23 sec. Bernie Sanders voters were removed as Bill Clinton moved to the polling station

[quickesst]

99. Haha....

... The way the arrows are pointing in the video tells me he looks as though he was addressing the Bernie supporters. The other arrows pointing to the left are doing just that. Pointing to the left somewhere off camera, can't see how far the polling station is. Think you guys are just way too pissed off, and letting your imaginations run away with you.
By the way, still haven't seen him "blocking" or "shooing" anyone away which was clearly stated in the OP.

[Metric System]

23. There's a very good chance Bill wouldn't have done as well as he did without Hillary. In fact, she's

the one who convinced him to stay in politics when he lost the Arkansas Governorship after only one term. It cuts both ways.

[Seeinghope]

33. That is not the point

She really did not carry any real power, star quality and/or connections everywhere. She was his wife counselling her husband just like any spouse would do. Hillary Clinton was the 1st lady of Arkansas ----Period. Not a world leader powerhouse. Former or current.

He probably knows so many secrets and so many weak spots in the whole system. He is the heavyweight in the Democrat Party.

[Nonhlanhla]

52. Democrat Party?

Your use of that expression makes you sound like a Republican...

[Agschmid]

54. ... That's not the only part IMO.

Jury went 2-5 on that one.

[leftofcool]

32. Oh good gawd!

[Sheepshank]

34. Wah. Fuck this shit. Let's just go by past precedent....oh wait....nt

[asuhornets]

37. Oh Brother what utter nonsense....n/t

[Agschmid]

44. ...

[kristopher]

47. WHEN YOU TALK HORSERACE, HILLARY WINS; TALK ISSUES BERNIE WINS.

Yes The Shouting Is Intentional

[KingFlorez]

49. If Bill Clinton is sliding down a pole

Then Hillary is definitely in trouble. A former President and potential First Gentlemen sliding down a stripper pole is not good optics. Hillary obviously needs to get him under control.

[Agschmid]

56. DUzy.

[Buns_of_Fire]

98. Bill is doing pole dances to attract voters for Hillary?

Sorry, but Chris Farley he ain't.

[brooklynite]

50. There's been no violation of election laws...

...there's been no voter who claims they were prevented from voting...

...there's been no compliant filed by the Sanders campaign.

[Seeinghope]

55. Yes there has

People were complaining outside of the polling place while Bill Clinton was INSIDE the polling place.

Law states that you are not suppose to be WITHIN 150 ft of the polling place. He was I send it with the Mayor!

[brooklynite]

60. The SECRETARY OF THE COMMONWEALTH says no violation has occurred...

...and nobody has file a formal complaint asserting that THEY were prevented from voting.

Point to any evidence otherwise.

[msongs]

58. gee Jane Sanders is out the promoting Bernie. She must be sleazy as well then nt

[RandySF]

61. Then ask Bernie to take his wife off the trail.

So sleazy.

[redstateblues]

68. There's always excuses when Bernie loses

Sander's supporters have so many conspiracy theories it's like a whole season of X-Files episodes. The MA loss was a devastating blow for a New Englander to lose on his home turf where he was supposedly revered.

[Carlo Marx]

76. Clinton beat Obama in Massachusetts by 16 points, Sanders by 2.

Independent media watchdog groups documented the media blackout of Sanders for all of 2015. Obama had enormous coverage--which he deserved. The media is universally negative against the one guy not taking corporate money. No conspiracy just the corrupt anti democratic order of our current system. Academic research documents the reality of big money donors and elected representatives shutting the people out legislatively.

[vintx]

83. Great post,

thanks for adding some perspective.

[Carlo Marx]

94. Thank you.

[redstateblues]

86. More excuses- That was then. When the primary season started

the media was pulling for Bernie- They love a horse race-It's good for ratings and more $. That's all they care about. So your saying the media is universally negative toward Trump for not taking corporate money? You must be kidding-it's Trump 24/7. Kind of blows a hole in that part of your premise.

[Carlo Marx]

91. No. Sanders and Trump represent different things.

Trump is a loose canon and exposes the Republican base as racist and sexist. He's self funded so he can mock the donor politician relationship. The media loathes the idea of Trump humiliating our political system and most importantly, he's unpredictable and uncontrollable. But they love the ratings; they're trapped by him since ratings equals advertising money. Bernie is honest and on a 40 year straight line to transform our political system. It's just that he was easy to ignore til he ran for president. They have never been anything but hostile to him. He quietly caught up to Hillary in the polling right before Iowa, despite not getting covered.

[CountAllVotes]

69. Damn right!

Nail on head!

P.S. Welcome to the Democratic Underground !!

[synergie]

71. So blah-blah slime-slime, because you just hate Hillary sooooooo sooooo much?

I'm pretty sure the pitiful one is the one that felt the need to post such a message. I know it's hard when your candidate simply cannot win votes, and whose spouse is harming him by doing silly things, but that is really no reason to go all off the deep end because a male spouse is supporting his wife's campaign that's going quite well.

That it's upsetting you THIS much, is rather pitiful. Chin up, the primary shall be over soon, and you can figure out how to cope with the nascent misogyny that seems to have bubbled up and over taken you. It would appear that many on the right are dealing with the same issues, they never know just how much the thought of a woman beating a man, and becoming president would hurt and frighten them. It's okay <pat> <pat>

[Agschmid]

72. Sometimes it comes out of no where.

[Carlo Marx]

88. Quick, before someone analyzes another embarrassing Hillary gaffe, cry sexism or racism.

You Hillary people are as stilted and intellectually constrained as the talk radio brutes dutifully reciting the Limbaugh Memo. Keep to your 5 stick figure talking points and hope your candidate is not expected to actual talk away from the tight script poll tested by her thousand markers and handlers.

[jalan48]

74. Bill is definitely sleazy, he's proven that beyond a doubt.

Why Hillary chose to stay with the man is just one more question about her judgement.

[redstateblues]

77. That's really none of your business. You sound like Sean Hannity

[jalan48]

81. The judgement of a person who's running for President is all of our business.

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I notice when the subject of Bill's character is brought up the Hillary crowd responds with the "it's none of your business" routine. You sound like a robot.

[redstateblues]

90. Yeah- Damn right-I'm a Hilbot as you condescending Sanders supporters like to call us.

The slam was about why she stayed with Bill after he strayed which I repeat is none of your business-there I said it again. Hillary is not a perfect candidate like St. Bernard but I happen to believe she would make the best President. If Bernie wins I'll vote for him even though I have reservations about the campaign he has conducted.

[jalan48]

92. LOL-keep repeating the mantra if it works for ya.

I think you're going to find a lot of people don't want the man near the White House, with or without his bull horn.

[840high]

82. While he played in the White House - it

was my business.

[Carlo Marx]

93. I'm not a fan of Hillary but think what he did to Hillary was vile.

Politics aside, Hillary was an exceptional person and quite beautiful. So, it was a shitty thing for him to do to his family while in the White House.

[MFM008]

75. your misreading

some Sanders supporters OR/ HRC haters (can be seperate) are just reading to much into to many things.

[Seeinghope]

89. The video has nothing to do with reading too much into this.

[SHRED]

80. Ill Bill

The guy looks sick and confused to me.
I hope he's okay.

[Beacool]

87. Wuuuahhhhaaahhhaaa!!!!!!

That's all this ridiculous post merits.



Talk about "pitiful".......

[snowy owl]

105. So whatever it takes to win. Sooooooo Clintons.

[RiverLover]

100. Great post. Esp the last line. /nt

[Stellar]

102. Bill had a lot of racist attacks against Obama, along with...

Rep. Charlie Rangel...I was so p/o. Rangels wife probably felt badly and contributed to Obama's campaign.