2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs CNN and MSNBC Working For The Clinton Campaign?
If you don't think so, you probably don't have a television.
The unfairness of the press makes me sick.
What the hell can we do?
The brainwashing apparatus is working as it is supposed to.
The country, and the planet may have to deal with a Clinton/Trump presidency.
Hopefully we survive.....
Z_California
(650 posts)Fortunately smart people and young people don't go to television or newpapers for their "news" any more.
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)wow, who knew that Joe Average was their target audience!
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Boeing is their biggest and Boeing will keep them on the air because MSNBC is corporate and they stick together. Why do you think you see so many ads for products that required prescriptions or have to do with military? Corporate pockets maintain a limited conversation on topics corporations don't want talked about much such as limiting the war machine or healthcare or even net neutralioty which benefits Comcast. You don't hear debates about a lot of things as long as big money controls the media and they do that by buying advertising.
xloadiex
(628 posts)I highly doubt their customers would boycott.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)I can't watch that garbage any more.
It's not journalism. It's effectively paid advertising to look like journalism.
What I mean by "paid" is "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" favors - not money directly exchanging - maybe a bunch of ads are bought
When they try to take control of the internet - and you can be sure they'll try in a Trojan Horse kind of way - we're in real trouble in terms of remaining a free society.
This Democratic primary is not determining the will of the people - it's executing the will of the 1% through the 90% of the US media they control.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)There are many ways we can spread his message.
You can find a thread about how to help with that in the Bernie group.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)I love it!
Stellar
(5,644 posts)I love it!
Raster
(21,010 posts)...I know, more of a rhetorical question.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Olbermann was still on the air, Edwards and Kucinich were both running. Who did Keith have on three times that week, it was Edwards, he voted the wrong way and gave three speeches just before the IWR on why we needed to invade NOW.
Did he ever have Kucinich on that week or the weeks after, no never nada.
So back in 2007 it was clear to me that MSNBC, the supposedly 'liberal' channel was bought by the establishment.
"The brainwashing apparatus is working as it is supposed to."
You got that right, but it goes WAY back!
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)who turned out to be pretty wack (UFOs anyone?). He never stood a serious chance.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)Seems pretty silly to me.
By the way how did the Egyptians place a stone ever 9 seconds to build the great pyramid anyway?
With ropes and sticks right?
navarth
(5,927 posts)scottie55
(1,400 posts)War is good for news profits.
No one told him......
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)msongs
(73,754 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)in fact, the media talks so much about the dangers of fracking to our water supplies that we banned that shit!
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)that if they don't shape up with balanced, objective reporting, WE WILL DO TO THEM WHAT WE DID TO HATE RADIO! Hate radio is now $20 BILLION in the red thanks to threats of boycotts against their sponsors. Lets do the same to MSM "news". Here is a link to a list of mail, email and phone numbers of the major outlets:
http://www.nytix.com/Links/TV/articles/newsmediacontacts.html
Feedback for NPR, the 24 hour Trump station that occasionally mentions the "presumed Dem nominee", but never Bernie: http://info.ds.npr.org/contact.html
Other than voting, donating to Bernie, and talking to people you know about Bernie's policy positions and history, THE SINGLE GREATEST THING you can do to help his campaign is to WRITE A HARD COPY LETTER to the media protesting their Bernie Blackout and wall to wall Trump coverage! Mention that you will be contacting and boycotting their advertisers if they continue the Bernie blackout and Trump "infomercials". I know people who work in newsrooms, and I am told that one hard copy letter has the weight of 100 emails to a news director. This is, they have added, a huge reason why the media skews to the Right; right wingers mail in letters frequently, the Left never does, so the perception is that only the right wing is dissatisfied with their "reporting". Let us change that notion TODAY!
Please borrow time from posting here and on Facebook TODAY to write letters to FIVE of the organizations listed below. When finished, post the text of your letter and who you contacted to this thread.
ABC News: 147 Columbus Ave. New York, NY 10023
CBS News: 524 W. 57 St. New York, NY 10019
NBC News: 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10112
MSNBC: One MSNBC Plaza, Secaucus, NJ 07094
CNN: One CNN Center, Atlanta, GA, 30303
New York Times: 620 8th Ave. New York, NY 10018
The Washington Post: 1301 K Street NW, Washington DC 20071
Timing is CRITICAL, DO THIS TODAY for Bernie!!
Associated Press: 450 West 33rd St. New York, NY 10001
Do you have a question regarding CNN's programming?
Tweet us @TeamCNN
Phone Numbers:
MSNBC
- Phone: 1-212-664-4444 EMAIL: letters@msnbc.com
CNN-
(404) 827 1500
Comment line: (404) 827 - 0234
(From grasswire
CNN NEWS CHIEF Eason Jordan. 404.827.5111. fax: 404.827.4215. eason.jordan@cnn.com
CNN NEWS DIRECTOR Kim Bondy. 404 827 1500. fax. 404 827 1099
CNN NEWSROOM 404.827.1500 . 404.827.1500. cnnfutures@cnn.com
Call Anderson Cooper at 1-866-NY-AC360
Everyone at CNN is listed individually on this page: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv /
CBS
-Phone: 212 975 3247
ABC-
ABC NEW YORK NEWSROOM: (212) 456-5100 newsradio@abc.com Newsroom Fax Machine 212.456.5150
Peter Salinger (THE MAN IN CHARGE OF ELECTION COVERAGE) Director, Special Events & Sports 212.456.5105 peter.salinger@abc.com
Cristi Landes, Manager, Programming 212.456.5107 cristi.d.landes@abc.com
Wayne Fisk Director, Programming 212.456.5327 wayne.fisk@abc.com
Jeff Fitzgerald Executive Director, Operations 212.456.5554 jeffrey.t.fitzgerald@abc.com
Heidi Oringer Executive Director, Entertainment 212.456.5541 heidi.b.oringer@abc.com
Jon Newman News Coverage 212.456.5100 jonathan.m.newman@abc.com
Joyce Alcantara Assignment Manager 212.456.5106 joyce.a.alcantara@abc.com
Jim Kane Deputy D.C. Bureau Chief 212.222. 6604 james.f.kane@abc.com
Andrew Kalb Executive Director, Programming 05.567.2269 andrew.l.kalb@abc.com
Robert Garcia Executive Director, News & Sports 212.456.5103 robert.garcia@abc.com
C-SPAN
Contacting C-SPAN's Washington Journal:
Republicans: (202) 737-0001
Democrats: (202) 737-0002
Independents: (202) 628-0205
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ASSOCIATED PRESS OFFICES:
212-621-1500
http://www.ap.org/pages/contact/contact.html
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS DEPARTMENT
To send comments and suggestions (about news coverage only) or to report errors that call for correction, e-mail nytnews@nytimes.com or leave a message at 1-888-NYT-NEWS. To contact a reporter, click on the byline of one of his or her articles to access the reader e-mail form. You can also find any reporter's archive here (alphabetized by last name; reporters' names are italicized): Times Topics: People http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/peo...
The Editors
executive-editor@nytimes.com
managing-editor@nytimes.com
The Newsroom
news-tips@nytimes.com
Start writing and calling first thing tomorrow!
jillan
(39,451 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)So to answer your question - YEP!
GreatGazoo
(4,609 posts)Soon we won't be as inclined to see MSM coverage as the goal rather than an addiction.
The Sanders campaign has been built without significant or helpful TV coverage -- perhaps then, it is not hostage to TV coverage? And if it is not then neither are we.
Young voters now watch about 60% less TV than their elders and it is falling. The fastest falloff is among 18-24YO who went from 27 weekly hrs of TV to just 19 hours. A 30% reduction in just 4 years.

http://www.marketingcharts.com/television/are-young-people-watching-less-tv-24817/
As the shift to social media continues, CW will be increasingly less influenced by corporate cable news.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)who are more likely to get info from the internet and not wanting to pay for cable news, their focus is internet access. It also shows the somewhat steady use of cable use by those of us over 50, habits are hard to break
We're trying to break those habits .. It don't come easy
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Is naturally going to get more coverage.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)it is a hard habit to give up for us older folks who grew up with 7 or 8 channels.
Corporate news media is dying, although they still have an influence, but we need to realize their days are numbered. Still frustrating, we need to venture out into the world of the younger generation via social media.
snowy owl
(2,145 posts)There will always be a corrupt element as long as we have what we have. Net neutrality will not last forever. When the left prefers Hillary over Bernie, I'll stake my bank account on net neutrality being next on the list.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)LOL
I grew up with 3 channels, and we had to get up out of our seats to change the channel.
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)It is Hillary/Trump 24/7. And every host/commentator is pro-Hillary from anchors to the least among them.
Kasich on MTP - I'm kind of sick of Kasich. I thought he was pretty good at first but I'm tired of the self-aggrandizement. But he got his Ohio.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)stonecutter357
(13,045 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)come on, tell a big fat whopping lie. It's the Internet. You could have told everyone what a true blue Dem you are. Instead you play coy, and avoid answering. Got it
PATRICK
(12,396 posts)and from what is posted here not much is missed except their missing the mark of reason, public service, truth justice or the Amjerican Way. The only mug I would recognize is the crankpot O'Reilly. Haven't read or listened to the bombastic idiot. Haven't seen a commercial much less a political encomium of the latest incompetent fascist. Do the Amish buy boxed cereals from ads? I don't, but I don't see the ads either. TV is a vast wasteland. The bangs or whimpers are nothing to me.
Anyone excited about being informed by the National Travesty is seriously delusional. Dump the box and try living some other way than glued to a screen for a while. Stretch it out and the addiction ceases. The it becomes irrelevant and exposed. Then maybe we can talk to each other, even if in the dangerous digital ocean filled with sharks, bots, thought police, idiots and the decadent or maybe IRL.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)snowy owl
(2,145 posts)Stellar
(5,644 posts)I just don't watch cnn/msnbc anymore. I've had it with those people trying to fed me the news that they want me to have. F**k'em!
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)something that will result in a hide.
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Rage against the dying of subject/verb agreement!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)If the press isn't constantly advnacing Bernie and maintaining that he still has a good chance for the nom, then they are biased.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)In delegate totals.
Sanders hasn't got a chance so why bother right?
From day 1.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)He has not had great things to say about the democratic Party and even Pres. Obama over the years. It's not surprising that that the Party apparatus isn't likely to support him. I think it's very unlikely that Sanders could ever get a majority of supers.
I can tell you from my point of view, as an HRC supporter, that I've seen TONS of attention to his crowd sizes, even when it is now clear that crowd sizes don;t necessarily translate into election results.
I think it's a matter of perspective.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I get the impression many people leave their TVs on MSNBCNN all day and then think everyone does that as well. It's not really a dedicated device, you don't really have to watch cable commentary shows. Very few Americans do. Very few. Look it up.
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reddread
(6,896 posts)its the other way around.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)so much ignorance and pretense.
may we turn a corner soon.
yuiyoshida
(45,415 posts)The Corporations don't like it and are curbing Bernie.. ne?
Goman na hitoga kirada! (I hate arrogance)
hereforthevoting
(241 posts)Like the Daily Beast for example.
artyteacher
(598 posts)They're working for themselves. If they were, they would never report on the fake Clinton scandals.
tblue
(16,350 posts)Bernie's the only major candidate who's truly opposed to it.
Remember: The CEO of Comcast/MSNBC is a fundraiser for HC. CNN lobbyists are too.
So yeah. They are using their oligarchicalpower to skew this election so it favors them and furthers their agenda (TPP, investments, other leg). And it drives me crazy too. I don't watch anymore. Not even Rachel.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)20..30..50?
LOL it seemed like that many.
Some people have to face the fact that what the loser of the primaries does now is not newsworthy.
Just because Sanders supporters are bad at math, doesn't mean the news networks are. Plus he gives his standard stump speech every time. We have all heard it a million times.
Its not news anymore.
It is what it is, time to move on and stop Trump and the republicans now.
scottie55
(1,400 posts)Anyone with a working brain can see it.
Can you?
Bernie crushes all Republicans in ALL POLLS.
Do you want a president Trump zero?
randr
(12,648 posts)just as they have our whole of our society. Divide and conquer. Black/White, rich/poor, city/rural, young/old; the list goes on and on.
This election will pit the Outsider against the Insider. Step right up and chose your side.
The only thing that matters to the MSM is that we don't blink and pick a candidate that does not fit the mold.
Hillary will essentially be a continuation and affirmation of the Obama Administration.
Trump will be the outsider who reunited the Republicans and is going to fix the whole wide world for them.
Pass the popcorn while you can still buy it non GMO no matter who wins.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Using Republican arguments doesn't make them valid, all of a sudden.
LOL.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Stupid Joe went on and on and on and on and on and on.......about Trump
CentralMass
(16,971 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)smiley
(1,432 posts)It's been going on since t.v. was invented. But we are definitely at epic levels of distortion these days.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)It has been going on for months.
H2O Man
(79,052 posts)Recommended.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)Bernie facing tough questions as well?
RandySF
(84,278 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)whooooooooooooooooo boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RandySF
(84,278 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)$50,000-$100,000
Bloomberg L.P.
Discovery Communications Inc.
George Stephanopoulos
ABC News chief anchor and chief political correspondent
Mort Zuckerman
Owner of New York Daily News and U.S. News & World Report
Time Warner Inc.
Owner of CNN parent company Turner Broadcasting
these kind of scared me -
$1,000,000-$5,000,000
Carlos Slim
Chairman & CEO of Telmex, largest New York Times shareholder
James Murdoch
Chief Operating Officer of 21st Century Fox
Newsmax Media
Florida-based conservative media network
Thomson Reuters
Owner of the Reuters news service
$500,000-$1,000,000
Google
$10,000-$25,000
Knight Foundation
Non-profit foundation dedicated to supporting journalism
Public Radio International
Turner Broadcasting
Parent company of CNN
$5,000-$10,000
Comcast
Parent copmany of NBCUniversal
NBC Universal
Parent company of NBC News, MSNBC and CNBC
Public Broadcasting Service - this one freaks me a little. Why is PBS funneling money to Clinton?
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)The event will take place on June 26 at the home of Cohen and his wife, Rhonda. Those who donate $50,000 or more will have access to a private reception with the candidate.
Cohen's involvement in the political system includes a term as chief of staff for Ed Rendell, the former governor of Pennsylvania.
The fundraising event comes after progressive consumer groups proved instrumental in torpedoing the Comcast-TWC deal, one spearheaded by Cohen himself on the regulatory end.
Surprised there's not been one question by the media to Clinton if she'd be more welcoming to such mergers in the future.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)....plus they didn't mention they were counting early/absentee ballots. Those two stations were the only two with the 71% number, every other sources was reporting the the percentage as the precinct results came in.