2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow big do Sanders wins have to be to overtake Hillary in the delegate lead?
From what I have heard its not just wins that Bernie needs but OVERWHELMING wins in order to catch Hillary Clinton in the delegate lead. So is there any place that has put together a realistic map of the remaining primaries and caucuses to show what he has to do to catch up? Is there a certain number that he needs to keep Hillary under? What are the chances he catches her? And not just hope and wishful thinking, but the real chances he catches her and then could make a case for superdelegates switching.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)FarPoint
(14,765 posts)The Democratic Party and voters/ delegates will not give him anything close to what he would need. It's almost over now...
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Otherwise, why would there be such a fervor to tell him to drop out after ~50% of the voting? Logic would seem to say that
a) in the second half it could be possible to get just as far ahead and Hillary is now and tie
b) possibly get farther ahead than Hillary is now
c) lose
d) be the only candidate if she is indicted or suffers some fallout from the email scandal.
Anyone saying anything is definite is just lying. Polls may indicate things will go one way, and maybe they will. Truth is we can't predict the future.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)No matter-Let's go all the way- Hillary will win and Bernie will hopefully campaign against Trump. That will be the true test of Bernie
revbones
(3,660 posts)I don't get the unifying and focusing on the GE part of your statement, or how it pertains to my comment.
Also, maybe he does endorse her - god that would be a hard pill to swallow after all her lies during this campaign. It won't affect my vote. I'm not a cult member. I vote Bernie because of his policies and positions, not because of what he tells me to do.
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Garrett78
(10,721 posts)We know that Clinton does best in larger, more diverse states. We know that Sanders does best in smaller, less diverse states. That's a pattern, and I see no reason to believe that pattern will get flipped upside down. Given that and Clinton's 300+ delegate lead, it's virtually impossible for Sanders to win the nomination.
Request after request has been made for someone to use one of the delegate calculators to demonstrate a realistic path to 2026 for Sanders. As far as I know, those requests have never been answered. There's a reason for that.
H2O Man
(79,048 posts)RandySF
(84,260 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)You are correct.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)In FBI investigations. She's probably more worried about superlawyers than superdelegates.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Sanders will be at 117%
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)There is always another laughable post coming from Bernie supporters!
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Tarc
(10,601 posts)Which would only put him up around a +80-90 or so.
As soon as you start swapping out those 60% with real numbers...30% in KY, 40% in AZ and NY, and a few others, Clinton is right back on top.
Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)what we all know after Secretary Clinton's AIPAC speech . . . Hillary can care less about what a majority of Democratic primary voters in a majority of states in which a majority of voters reside think about her.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Uponthegears
(1,499 posts)from the same playbook as "Any candidate who doesn't accept corporate dollars is toast?"
reformist2
(9,841 posts)On this issue, Hillary looks ridiculous as usual. She goes way overboard to please whatever group she's in front of that day. And because she panders so much, no one really believes her.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)and that's for the FBI to recommend an indictment before the convention, a prospect that grows more and more likely by the day.
RandySF
(84,260 posts)That a right wing story comes true?
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)We can always hope that Hillary supporters sober up enough to recognize that they're driving us all off a cliff before it's too late.
But I'll take an indictment if that's the way it comes. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, they say.
Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)On Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:52 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
He only needs one win
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1548204
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This is a vile comment and doesn't belong on DU. We don't support our candidates by wishing indictments on the opposition. Is this a democratic board or what?
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AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)So some Hillary fan tried to bait me, and failed at it due to too many people having common sense?