2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf you believe PPP state polls, Iowa is +6 Republican compared to Ohio
Iowa is ALWAYS more Democratic than Ohio.
RandySF
(80,856 posts)Yeeeaahhh that does sound a bit off. But Iowa is not the liberal state it used to be.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)2008: Obama won Iowa by nearly 10 points, won Ohio by 4-5
2004: Bush won Ohio by 2 points, won Iowa by less than 1
2000: Gore won Iowa by 1, lost Ohio by 4
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)running ahead of 2008 at this time with Dems 20pts ahead so...
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)He won Ohio by over 4 points.
Iowa should be polling better then Ohio and in NBC/WSJ/Marist it is, 6% to 8%.
RandySF
(80,856 posts)You can't underestimate what the auto bailout meant to everyone.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)entity altogether from the rest of the midwest in terms of economy, jobs, and demographcs.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Or is that their Party ID for the state?
RandySF
(80,856 posts)They caught a lot of flack for their polling in 2010 and they turned out to be right. I did read somewhere that the firm was having a hard time weighting their samples. Whatever it is, it's probably an outler like Zogby having O up by 3 in Florida.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)their samples as +2 D in Iowa and +5 D in Wisconsin.
Ohio was weighted +6 D in their Ohio poll, I believe.
franklin200
(16 posts)Actually they missed quite a few races in 2010. Most of their senate polls were too favorable to republicans. Their final polls had Angle, Buck, and Rossi all winning.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)early vote numbers because in every other poll Obama is killing in early voting.
Blaukraut
(5,979 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)obviously the didn't get as many early voters as NBC-Marist did. They said 34% of their sample already voted.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)it looks like.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)All polls right now are LV.
aaaaaa5a
(4,686 posts)Remember electoral math: Ohio + Nevada=270
People keep talking about Iowa as a part of the firewall. This is wrong. The last part of the firewall is Nevada.
Ohio+Wisconsin+Iowa= 4 more years
OR
Ohio+Wisconsin+Nevada= 4more years
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)LisaL
(47,343 posts)Early voting numbers look similar to 2008 in terms of party affiliation. And I presume Obama gets most democrats (all polls seem to show that).
Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)Id bet money that Obama is ahead in Iowa but I don't think its as big as margin as in Marist.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)I see it as Obama ahead by about 4 in Iowa, which is pretty good.