2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's campaign spends money efficiently. It raises less than Bernie but gets better results.
Hillary's campaign has effective gatherings. Smaller than Bernie's but she gets her message across effectively.
Hillary's campaign is winning the primary season. She has millions of more votes than Bernie and more delegates.
I think Hillary will make a very effective President. She knows how to put together a winning team.
astrophuss42
(290 posts)Pass.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...name recognition. Not even close. Sanders, on the other hand, has had to raise awareness in every single state to get every vote he can. It's far more expensive to do that when you're not a nationally recognized figure.
thesquanderer
(11,982 posts)CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)I assume that he is already well know Vermont - so where is he going to go from there. At 78 is he going to make another run for the nomination or will he fade into the sunset?
think
(11,641 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)noamnety
(20,234 posts)peace13
(11,076 posts)..she would be broke.
amborin
(16,631 posts)with special performances by Mary J. Blige, Estelle, and Ben Harper
MCd by Russell Simmons
Los Angeles, California
Thursday, March 24th
Evening
$500 - Attendee
$1,000 - Friend (Includes Preferred Viewing)
Co-host: Raise $10,000 (Includes photo and host reception with Hillary)
Conversation with Hillary Rodham Clinton at the Home of Julia Franz and Chris Silbermann
Santa Monica, California
Thursday, March 24th
3:00 - 5:00 PM
$2,700 - Champion
Co-host: Raise $10,000 (Includes photo and host reception with Hillary)
I am also delighted to share that Bill Clinton will be headlining a fundraising event in La Canada Flintridge (north of Glendale) on Tuesday, March 22. I hope you will consider supporting Hillary for America at the following event:
Reception with President Bill Clinton at the Home of Teena Hostovich and Doug Martinet
La Canada Flintridge, California
Tuesday, March 22nd
Evening
$1,000 - Guest
$2,700 - Champion (Includes photo)
Co-host: Raise $10,000 (Includes photo and host reception with President Clinton)
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)because he is raising money from those who can't afford it.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Absolutely stupid too
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)We know that Bernie keeps saying that his average contribution is $27.
We also know based on Election Commission records that a number of Bernie's supporter have exceeded the amount - $2,700 - that and individual can contribute to the Bernie campaign for the nomination process. So I think we can assume that these people are contributing more than $27 at time.
That means that the average small contribution had to be smaller than $27 to average out with the larger contributions to $27. As a guess lets say the average smaller contribution would be closer to $20 - some will be larger, some will be smaller. These are not the type of contributions of people who can afford to contribute much to a political campaign. Usually the smaller the contribution, the tighter the budget that contribution comes out of.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Speaking personally I have given money to sanders that I can ill afford....And I did it with eyes wide open as to his real chances and how it would be used.
A few bucks from people with modest incomes can -- in a practical sense -- help to wean politics from the Teat of Big Business and Wealthy contributors.
And symbolically it is participatory democracy at its best.
As to your other contention, I will not respond because that has more to do with bookkeeping and procedural issues.
CajunBlazer
(5,648 posts)When I added it up all of my ActBlue after the last election I found that I have given far more money to Hillary's campaign in the primaries and then Obama's campaign in the general election (especially the latter) than I could readily afford. And I dang sure gave to much to Democratic Senate campaigns across the country during the mid-terms with very little return for my money. But you have to do what you have to do to keep the wolves out of the White House, and, if possible out of the Congress.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)Odd you would leave this heinous aspect out of your 'equation'
But then again HRC isn't willing nor motivated to move against the Citizens United ruling
so is that 'winning'? try again, might need a larger troll stick
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)I think he has done better. Obviously not enough, but quite better.
rock
(13,218 posts)She has the better product.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Presidential candidates have understood & accepted that their campaigns require modern advertising methods for going on 60 yrs. Deal with it.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)But politics is not just a "product" in which the only thing that matters is the quick sale. But that Wal mart "brand name" mentality is why politics-as-usual has become so irrelevant and meaningless to so many people.
amborin
(16,631 posts)The best reply to ignorant statements, is silence.
frylock
(34,825 posts)It's new! Improved! 15% more liberal!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)...to more money. It's the easy path to victory.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)they do a hell of a good job spreading Hillary propaganda, and trying to tear down Sanders to boot!
jeff47
(26,549 posts)For example, IA and NH are problematic for your thesis.
ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Not to mention she started the race at the 20 yardline going in, while Bernie started on the opposite goal line. I'd say Bernie has been way more efficient and effective than Hillary as a money raiser and campaigner. Not even close.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)She understands the value of money. Socialists do not.