2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton ASKS FOR $353K To Sit With The Clooneys
The Bay Area fundraiser, hosted at the home of venture capitalist Shervin Pishevar, is one of two events starring the Clooneys. On April 16, Clinton and the Clooneys will reunite at the Clooney Los Angeles mansion, where tickets cost $33,400 per person to dine at the table next to one of Hollywoods most glamorous couple. Both events raise money for the Hillary Victory Fund. While the maximum donation to a presidential campaign is $2,700 for the primary elections (plus another $2,700 for the general), the Hillary Victory Fund can accept much larger contributions because it is a so-called joint fundraising committee that is comprised of multiple committees.
In addition to Hillary for America, which is Clintons main campaign committee, the Hillary Victory Fund also includes the Democratic National Committee and 32 state party committees. The maximum donation to the DNC is $33,400 per year, while the state parties each can accept donations of $10,000 per year into their federal accounts. Clintons typical, non-A-list-actor fundraisers for the primary require hosts to raise between $10,000 and $50,000. A fundraiser last week at the home of bestselling author John Grisham in Virginia, for instance, required co-hosts to raise $10,000.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/hillary-clinton-george-clooney-fundraiser-221207
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The money surrounding privilege and influence-buying is truly sickening.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)remaining $15 million?
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Thanks for playing!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Why should Bernie (who is devoting his life to income equality) be vilified? She's the one whose daughter recently upgraded from a 6 1/2 bathroom NYC apartment because it was too small, or something.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)When all this settles down read Hillary's biography
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Why does she go corrupt to make deals with the world's most corrupt people?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Just politics....
That's why we all support Bernie Sanders! he IS DIFFERENT!
metroins
(2,550 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)Do you need a dictionary?
www.dictionary.com
metroins
(2,550 posts)Inclined is the same thing as saying "not gonna happen".
Neither of them are giving away their donated money to anything except their campaigns.
I'm replying to a poster who said Bernie would be more inclined to, which is not true at all. It's a statement that sounds like it should give Bernie a moral high road, but is completely laughable in the context of real life.
More unicorns and rainbow speak.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)That's not at all what inclined means. Someone who is inclined to do something will often do that something.
Good luck with your continuing study of the English language!
metroins
(2,550 posts)Let's see Sanders donate all of his campaign money.
Laughable.
You just said he would suspend his campaign and donate the money.
arikara
(5,562 posts)The post is about Hillary and HER fundraising.
riversedge
(80,814 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Why do you want kids to starve?
Luciferous
(6,586 posts)person running who is actually fighting for the poor and middle class doesn't care about starving children. One of his main talking points is the level of childhood poverty in this country. You should be ashamed of yourself.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)fought for the poor and disadvantage her entire life, or that hey.... They do not care about starving children either.
It is offensive.
Right?
grasswire
(50,130 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Good post!
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Funny how some here 'care' what the fuck Republicans think.
Bold and format HTML. That'll stop her.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)More money to beat the GOP with (and Bernie).
BTW, he outspent her 3 to 1 in AZ on TV ads and still lost badly.
Segami
(14,923 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)More money, just what America needs in politics. Must be one helluva dinner.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)revbones
(3,660 posts)Tanuki
(16,448 posts)shares the money with the DNC and 32 state Democratic Committees, thus supporting fellow Democrats down-ticket all over the country.
revbones
(3,660 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)DC next year. Nice of you to jump to the conclusion that there is something nefarious. How much is Sanders making for his down ticket races? I know of one candidate in my area, and he needs ads.
"the Hillary Victory Fund can accept much larger contributions because it is a so-called joint fundraising committee that is comprised of multiple committees."
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)SANDERS CAMPAIGN CMTE contributions to Democratic party committees
9 contributions totaling $226,521
http://www.followthemoney.org/show-me?f-core=1&pt-pt=1&d-eid=8206022
HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON CAMPAIGN CMTE contributions to candidates and committees
8 contributions totaling $6,425
http://www.followthemoney.org/show-me?f-core=1&d-eid=569313
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That deserves an OP.
Truly.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)and never have a response when enlightened otherwise.
But Bernie is 'berning' through his money !omg! So is she.
But Bernie isn't contributing down ticket !zomg! More than Hillary.
But Bernie is spending a fortune on advertising !faints! Same as Hillary.
But, but, but ... ad infinitum.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)quarterly, and the PAC were just formed in Dec. If you think she won't out fundraise Bernie by a longshot you'd have to be delusional. And I know that when she does- then, and only then, will this fundraising be a BAD thing, whereas now she is not doing it enough. That is how it works here.
I have never seen such bullshit double standards. LOL.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I have every confidence that she will raise a lot more AND that you will say that is crappy too. She can only get the 2,700 per person, so everything above this is for the party and individual campaigns. Every cent of it. If she was greedy she would do bigger events at 2,700 a head and fuck everyone else.
But it is awesome when Bernie raises the money. I get it. The rules are different.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Keep moving those goalposts. You asked what Bernie had contributed, I showed you. NOW, you are saying it counts when she raises it in the future? BTW, her total was aggregated over a period of YEARS.
But I get it. the rules are different for hillary.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Hillary is set to get something like 1/15 of the money? The rest goes to congressional candidates and the DNC. She is only going to get the 2,700. per person no matter what, the rest goes to party building. I bet it takes 6-8 weeks minimum to show up on the website, easily. Those things always do.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)She has been doing big ol' fundraisers for quite some time now. Why do they not show up on the March 2016 graph yet?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)So someone seems to have gotten their math wrong. Even though the below list is only contributions through 12/31/15.
This is a whole lot of fundraising for the entire nation.
Democratic Party of New Hampshire D P $74,700
Democratic Party of Pennsylvania D P $70,500
Democratic Party of Texas D P $69,100
Democratic Executive Cmte of Florida D P $66,200
Democratic Party of Nevada D P $66,200
Democratic Party of Colorado D P $66,000
Democratic Party of Ohio D P $66,000
Democratic Cmte of Utah D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Alaska D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Mississippi D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Montana D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Oregon D P $64,100
Democratic Party of South Carolina D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Tennessee D P $64,100
Democratic State Cmte of Massachusetts D P $64,100
Georgia Federal Elections Cmte D P $64,100
Idaho State Democratic Party D P $64,100
Michigan Democratic State Central Cmte D P $64,100
Minnesota Democratic Farmer Labor Party D P $64,100
Missouri Democratic State Cmte D P $64,100
Rhode Island Democratic State Cmte D P $64,100
West Virginia State Democratic Exec Cmte D P $64,100
Wyoming State Democratic Central Cmte D P $64,100
Democratic Party of North Carolina D P $64,000
Democratic State Central Cmte/Louisiana D P $64,000
Indiana Democratic Congressional Victory Cmte D P $64,000
Democratic Party of Arkansas D P $63,000
Maine Democratic State Cmte D P $59,800
Democratic Party of Virginia D P $43,50
https://www.opensecrets.org/jfc/summary.php?id=C00586537
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)Most of her contributions are for party committees. Where's the contributions for the downticket candidates?
Thanks for the link though. I see from it her biggest contribution by industry is Securities & Investment $18,716,991.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)At that rate, they are probably up to 5-6 million for the states now.
I don't know the Follow the Money site, seems to be misleading. I am sure Bernie's number would be way off too.
I know it does often take months between updates for Open Secrets. The state money does go to support state candidates who are chosen locally. Hillary does not choose the candidates herself- and if she did, you know you all would be screaming to high heavens about that! These big fundraisers help build the party nationwide- which we desperately need- more than they enrich her own campaign.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)The pacs were new in Dec, and those paltry figures you are looking at are likely Dec only filings.
These fundraiser totals (from the OP) won't show up for many months. By that time, you'll be spinning it that fundraising is a bad thing, no doubt. Either way, I doubt the truth of it matters to you.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Who is laughing now? Updated 3/24 my ass. Follow THIS:
https://www.opensecrets.org/jfc/summary.php?id=C00586537
Democratic Party of New Hampshire D P $74,700
Democratic Party of Pennsylvania D P $70,500
Democratic Party of Texas D P $69,100
Democratic Executive Cmte of Florida D P $66,200
Democratic Party of Nevada D P $66,200
Democratic Party of Colorado D P $66,000
Democratic Party of Ohio D P $66,000
Democratic Cmte of Utah D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Alaska D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Mississippi D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Montana D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Oregon D P $64,100
Democratic Party of South Carolina D P $64,100
Democratic Party of Tennessee D P $64,100
Democratic State Cmte of Massachusetts D P $64,100
Georgia Federal Elections Cmte D P $64,100
Idaho State Democratic Party D P $64,100
Michigan Democratic State Central Cmte D P $64,100
Minnesota Democratic Farmer Labor Party D P $64,100
Missouri Democratic State Cmte D P $64,100
Rhode Island Democratic State Cmte D P $64,100
West Virginia State Democratic Exec Cmte D P $64,100
Wyoming State Democratic Central Cmte D P $64,100
Democratic Party of North Carolina D P $64,000
Democratic State Central Cmte/Louisiana D P $64,000
Indiana Democratic Congressional Victory Cmte D P $64,000
Democratic Party of Arkansas D P $63,000
Maine Democratic State Cmte D P $59,800
Democratic Party of Virginia D P $43,50
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)And the link I gave you was updated March 2016. So you can take it up with them and keep your ass.
"Who is laughing now? Updated 3/24 my ass."
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)support, and yes that is what they do with the money- try to win local elections. You can try and criticize it all you want- but this was your metric, and believing EITHER of them only gave 4-9 K over the last six months was always ridiculous. For Hillary that number is going to be 4-5 million in April, not 5K. Huge gaffe on your part.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)since this thread started. I WILL read them. But you are still being snotty about a link that said exactly what I posted. I gave the link and have asked questions when responded to. For you to respond with "my ass" and snark, well - I won't go there. I asked an honest question about where the money to the parties goes and where the down ticket candidates get theirs. I have now been enlightened. Ain't learning a wunnerful thing?
You asked "How much is Sanders making for his down ticket races?". I posted links showing otherwise. You and others provided more info. I didn't denigrate any of them or you. Nor respond with "my ass". People will take what you want to show them much more willingly without the snark. I do come to DU to learn, and have been handed my ass more than once - sure to not be the last time!
Now I have the other links to read and will give you the space to enjoy to yourself.
Have a good evening. I sure will
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)know them but the bulk of the stories there are from earlier election cycles. They don't even have the Victory Fund in question listed! I am doubting it was updated much this season, but can see that it says it is- that is kind of bizarre. Sorry if this confused things. I just knew it was BS.
I assumed you would also know better than to think that 5K was even possible, and do apologize if Follow the Money screwed with us. I get the idea that site is semi-abandoned at this point- the "my ass" was referring to the site's accuracy, not you. Sorry. You are not a jerk at all.
One silver lining in this for you- if Bernie gets the nomination, he gets the benefit of the Victory Fund she has been building up. Whether he wants it or not, the party has resources for the candidate. God know the candidate will need them.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)do you have any, ANY - idea what atrocities you find when you google "ass handed to me" gifs?
I'm breaking out the vino after that!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I'm glad I made you smile, I was glad to find that out about the fundraising- because really worried about Bernie if he would have to fight the GOP, I am afraid he will need every cent for the general! And the states need it, whether they are red or blue! Either way, I want an awesome Supreme Court, and a bluer congress, dammit.
Enjoy the wine and .gifs, and thanks for handing my ass back, LOL.
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C_U_L8R
(49,386 posts)NWCorona
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Segami
(14,923 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)compared Trump to Wallace a few weeks ago, maybe that is why Bill might of encouraged Trump to run...
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)To be the Republican nominee
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)most peculiar, mama
One big club and we ain't in it
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)No more! This is disgusting.
50+ yr Democratic voter, supporter & activist here. I don't support the Goldman Sachs candidate or her donors.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)monmouth4
(10,712 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)The event marks Clintons third Victory Fund event. A fundraiser at Radio City Music Hall earlier this month featuring Katy Perry and Elton John raised big dollars for the Victory Fund. And last December Sting hosted an event for the Clintons, where ticket prices ranged from $33,400 for one person to $100,000 for a couple at the event chair level. The event raised $8 million in one night.
RANGERMAN89
(91 posts)Better show class around the Queen and her rich Nobel friends or it will be the dungeon for them.
progressoid
(53,179 posts)SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)You could pay $35.34 to have dinner with Bernie Sanders at the local Denny's.
Segami
(14,923 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)I'd love to have dinner with Bernie in a diner.
SoCalMusicLover
(3,194 posts)He's a cheap date.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Must have been an interesting exchange going on in the Clooney homestead over this....I'm sure it was.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)riversedge
(80,814 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)I know its a hard pill to swallow when the queen is involved.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)The facts are what they are. You just don't like people talking about this kind of ugly stuff.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(130,538 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Vinca
(53,994 posts)Jeez. For that kind of loot I expect more from George Clooney than a seat at the table. LOL.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)Individual HappyHillaryMeals normally retail for $250,000. This is a bargain!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)the gold fixtures in the guest mansion replated, and I had to buy a new yacht since the ashtrays were dirty in the old one. My timing sucks. I had to decline. Damn, damn, damn...
KoKo
(84,711 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Eating Bernie supporters' liver notwithstanding,
Hillary's campaign will only get $5400 maximum (less if the people have already donated to her campaign)
She is raising funds for OTHER DEMOCRATS -- which is good for the party.

Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but not THAT handsome.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)I wouldn't pay a nickel.
longship
(40,416 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I'll pass.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)brooklynite
(96,882 posts)Remember that whole "this isn't about me" message? The Revolution (TM) needs a lot more than just Bernie's election. Where's the money for Party organization, and support for Senate, House, Governor and State Legislature races going to come from?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)You can't tell me that this kind of obscene flow of money into the campaign system is remotely close to how they envisioned. And how anyone can look at this and simply shrug, thinking "eh, we're just playing by the rules" is beyond me. How can this be ok with anyone?
think
(11,641 posts)Hillary's entire career seems to be about looking how to game the law for maximum advantage.
From raising money from campaigns by bundling donation into a Victory Fund like stated above;
to coordinating with super pacs via loopholes; to giving speeches to corporations that collectively spend billions buying our government; Hillary has found a way to avoid breaking the letter of the law while leaving the spirit of the law in the dust.
Why anyone trusts her to not continue these shady tactics if president?