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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 05:58 PM Oct 2012

Last night on the Daily Show - I think I heard Obama come out and say that

the republicans in Congress have been blocking progress. Is that the first time he's been that blunt? Is he starting to say that in his stump speeches? I think Biden sent up a trial balloon at his debate when he said something about they need to get out of the way.

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Last night on the Daily Show - I think I heard Obama come out and say that (Original Post) hedgehog Oct 2012 OP
It's about time RATM Oct 2012 #1
+1 amborin Oct 2012 #13
Yeah he finally brought it up high density Oct 2012 #2
Is there some kind of gentleman's agreement we aren't privy to? NightOwwl Oct 2012 #3
He's brought it up before ejbr Oct 2012 #4
I don't know why ALL Dems don't bring it up daily; Lord knows, I have on a daily basis on FB. Repugs Booster Oct 2012 #5
He's brought it up ailsagirl Oct 2012 #6
Exactly - I think Obama had to wait until other people said it before he did - hedgehog Oct 2012 #7
Bingo ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #8
I didn't realize that ailsagirl Oct 2012 #11
{:o( whttevrr Oct 2012 #12
Funny ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #9
The President always accepts responsibility Z_California Oct 2012 #10
I've heard it before.. a lot Cha Oct 2012 #14
They use it, but it has to be done carefully. Lucinda Oct 2012 #15
I would like to think theKed Oct 2012 #16

high density

(13,397 posts)
2. Yeah he finally brought it up
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:11 PM
Oct 2012

I don't know why they haven't been pounding this drum for ages... Rmoney keeps telling us how Obama has failed when in fact Republicans have blocked just about everything he tried to do.

 

NightOwwl

(5,453 posts)
3. Is there some kind of gentleman's agreement we aren't privy to?
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:40 PM
Oct 2012

Like how calling someone a liar used to be off limits until people like Romney/Ryan said things that were too outrageous to ignore.

Republicans have stated over and over they will undermine Obama at every turn in order to sabotage his presidency. They are blatant about putting politics over what's best for this country.

I don't get why Obama isn't repeating this over and over.

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
4. He's brought it up before
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:42 PM
Oct 2012

even in the first debate when Rmoney was bragging about bipartisanship in MA when he was Gov. Obama said: You should tell those Dems to teach the Republicans in Congress about cooperation. However, he never says it as forcefully as he should. Even on the Daily Show, it was a luke warm jab. He needs to talk about it like he talks about Romnesia. IMHO.

Booster

(10,021 posts)
5. I don't know why ALL Dems don't bring it up daily; Lord knows, I have on a daily basis on FB. Repugs
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:54 PM
Oct 2012

have said it on national tv so what's the big deal. They brag about it so it's fair game. You would think that every Dem that is running for one o the seats would include it in every speech they give to boost their own chance of winning. I just don't get it.

ailsagirl

(22,887 posts)
6. He's brought it up
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 06:56 PM
Oct 2012

but perhaps if he says it too bluntly, the repukes will claim he's "whining"

I'm sure Biden has brought it up.

But it would be nice to hear it said much more often

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
7. Exactly - I think Obama had to wait until other people said it before he did -
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:03 PM
Oct 2012

otherwise the focus would shift from the Republican blockade to a discussion of Obama whining. I think he had to hold back on the first debate and have people demand he come out swinging. Otherwise he would have been criticized as being un-presidential and the angry black man and everything in between!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. Bingo ...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:17 PM
Oct 2012

Black people, often, have to play by a different set of rules in public discourse ... I order to be heard, sometimes someone else, someone of stature/authority must say it first. We can hint at it, imply it; but can't just come out and say it.

ailsagirl

(22,887 posts)
11. I didn't realize that
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

That makes me sad. I assumed it was because the President is not a bragger and that he is naturally modest about his achievements-- another reason I admire him so much. I can't stand someone standing there saying how great they are-- you know, like Nitt?? Very unflattering and people often turn off their ears.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Funny ...
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oct 2012

I saw that appearance and President Obama's appearance on Letterman, and went to bed thinking ... Stewart and Letterman give tougher interviews of President Obama than anyone on fox does any gopper.

Z_California

(650 posts)
10. The President always accepts responsibility
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 07:35 PM
Oct 2012

And he doesn't want to be perceived as making excuses or passing the buck, even if (as in this case) it's more than valid.

Cha

(296,870 posts)
14. I've heard it before.. a lot
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:21 AM
Oct 2012

of times on the campaign trail. Thanks for highlighting that he said it AGAIN, hedgehog.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
15. They use it, but it has to be done carefully.
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 02:28 AM
Oct 2012

It would be very easy to it against him...spinning it as his being unable to get people working together.

theKed

(1,235 posts)
16. I would like to think
Sat Oct 20, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

in some ways that he's pacing it out. There's other reasons - not coming off whiny, racial double standards, as mentioned - but perhaps he's been planning to use it for the last debate all along (and people have been hinting to prime the audience). Presented properly that close to election day, it could smash the party and all incumbent downticket races for the republicans. Wishful thinking? Probably.

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