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cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:31 PM Mar 2016

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) cyberpj Mar 2016 OP
vote by mail so there is a paper record questionseverything Mar 2016 #1
Good advice marions ghost Mar 2016 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #6
Absolutely agree marions ghost Mar 2016 #9
how on EARTH is it acceptable for votes to not get counted? renate Mar 2016 #11
It's an eye-opener for sure marions ghost Mar 2016 #13
+1 quantass Mar 2016 #3
We do it here every year. Do NOT trust GOP officials anywhere in ANY state. blm Mar 2016 #4
Verification links for upcoming contests: Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #7
Only took a few seconds on the googles Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #14
checked in Oregon, all good Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #10
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #12
I stopped voting early the year I cast my vote for John Edwards.. frylock Mar 2016 #15

questionseverything

(11,962 posts)
1. vote by mail so there is a paper record
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

then report your vote to bernie's campaign so he can count us

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
2. Good advice
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016

you should ask when the mail in ballot is counted in your state. In some states they are not counted til after all the others or never.

This article is about California, but shows the Issue:

http://www.cafwd.org/reporting/entry/is-your-absentee-ballot-being-counted-californians-may-have-new-ways-to-fin

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Even if your vote by mail ballot is, as the absentee voter anthem says, “Signed, Sealed, Delivered,” it might not get counted. Not only are vote-by-mail ballots twice as likely to go uncounted than those cast in person, the rejection rate for absentee ballots in California is among the highest in the country.

In some cases, the tens of thousands of Californians whose vote-by-mail ballots were rejected were not only unnecessarily disenfranchised by problems within the vote-by-mail system, they were unaware that their votes weren’t being counted at all. One bill signed on Monday changes that, giving voters the legal right to know.

Under SB 589, county elections officials are required to create a system allowing voters to verify whether their vote-by-mail ballot was counted and more importantly, why or why not. However, voters will bear the burden of seeking out that information.

“This legislation will ensure that voters whose ballots were rejected have the ability to fix the problem for future elections,” said Senator Jerry Hill (D-San Mateo), author of the bill. Ballots cast by mail are rejected for a number of reasons, but the majority of disqualifications result from signature irregularities or late arrival.

Think about it. Our signatures change over time. The signature on my drivers’ license looks nothing like the one I use to sign my checks. Sounds harmless, but this creates a significant challenge for elections officials who authenticate vote by mail ballots through signature matching. If the signature on a voter’s registration form doesn’t match the signature on the absentee ballot envelope, it’s rejected.

Response to marions ghost (Reply #2)

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
9. Absolutely agree
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:56 PM
Mar 2016

We can send people up to the space station but we can't seem to ensure the right to vote efficiently and safely. (!?) The only reason we are not doing it --is that having an antiquated, unverifiable system leaves great opportunities for corruption--that's the only conclusion you can come to. It should be number one priority in a real democracy.

renate

(13,776 posts)
11. how on EARTH is it acceptable for votes to not get counted?
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

Even if they wouldn't change the winner, they give an indication of how the electorate is feeling about important issues. I just can't believe counting a citizen's vote is optional. I knew that the general election vote count was shady, but this election is really opening my eyes to how absurd the voting process in the primaries is.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. It's an eye-opener for sure
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

I got my eyes opened awhile ago in the 90's but still haven't gotten over what I saw then and since.

Of course every vote should be counted. But depending on the state, it doesn't always happen.

Sounds like you've got the nerve to keep your eyes open. Not everybody does, it's so depressing.

Until we get real election integrity in this country, we don't really have results we can count on.

 

quantass

(5,505 posts)
3. +1
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

blm

(114,760 posts)
4. We do it here every year. Do NOT trust GOP officials anywhere in ANY state.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

.

Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #5)

Ruby the Liberal

(26,703 posts)
8. Only took a few seconds on the googles
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 07:53 PM
Mar 2016

You should copy those into your OP so folks see them.

Oh, and just checked mine and I'm good to go, so thanks for the reminder!

Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #8)

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
10. checked in Oregon, all good
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

I'll have check a few more times before we get to vote in May

Uncle Joe

(65,508 posts)
12. Kicked and recommended.
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for the thread, cyberpj.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. I stopped voting early the year I cast my vote for John Edwards..
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

dropped my absentee ballot in the mail the night before he suspended his campaign. Now I complete my ballot the night before and deliver it to my polling place.

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