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I was never very good at math (Original Post) Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 OP
Great. It's impossible for Bernie to win. onehandle Mar 2016 #1
Not impossible at all. ibegurpard Mar 2016 #3
F is for Fail. cui bono Mar 2016 #13
Heh-heh,...you've been playing that same 3-note tune Segami Mar 2016 #15
six straight now AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #58
LOL, you are confused. Head back and whine at the gun forum. nt Logical Mar 2016 #25
Not impossible ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #27
Your ignorance and Bernie hate is showing. morningfog Mar 2016 #30
Im afraid MFM008 Mar 2016 #2
Is your math is failing you? I thought so! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #4
Hete is a great article about the REAL math (not the Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #5
Thank you, I've not seen this. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #8
Don't you know? They all moonlight as mathematicians, foreign policy experts, VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #6
Thank you! That's what I was getting at! Experts at bullshit!! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #7
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #9
You sorry person. I feel very sorry for your ineptitude. Peace be with you. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #10
and the results are in! yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #11
Thanks, yui !! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #14
That guy is a troll. We used to be able to tell simple truths like that. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #16
You see, the PROBLEM is that the MATH is based on the VOTERS and they are motivated by pdsimdars Mar 2016 #12
How come the popular vote doesn't follow those turnouts? Nt hack89 Mar 2016 #22
You mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #29
Exactly. Reasonable question don't you think? t hack89 Mar 2016 #32
Well ... It does seem to run counter to a narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #33
Popular vote is irrelevant in the primary OR the GE. Live Bait Mar 2016 #41
I know how primaries and general elections work ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #47
Has Hillary had ONE crowd as large as 4000? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #43
Still pretty damn good Trenzalore Mar 2016 #17
Closed primaries with hackable voter registration databases. Wars continue. Nt lostnfound Mar 2016 #18
Trash Trenzalore Mar 2016 #19
I didn't say anything about Hillary lostnfound Mar 2016 #37
It's like knowing the difference of climate vs, weather, actually. Tarc Mar 2016 #20
Very good. Obama never had a lead this big in2008 hack89 Mar 2016 #21
This thread is very telling ... Myrina Mar 2016 #23
We understand the delegate math hack89 Mar 2016 #28
Ooh, another one for the ignore list. Myrina Mar 2016 #35
Why are Bernie supporters so immature? hack89 Mar 2016 #36
Her expected victories will be defeats. Live Bait Mar 2016 #42
Isn't it though! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #40
Sorry. It was over on March 15... SidDithers Mar 2016 #24
Pretty much. Then when you see that less than 300,000 folks voted in all three states yesterday Number23 Mar 2016 #38
Thanks for reminding me.... AGAIN!... Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #39
I regret to inform you that your math skills haven't improved much.....LOL Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26
Please don't demean mathematicians Impedimentus Mar 2016 #31
I'm flattered. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #49
Excellent. Things are going pretty much as we've been saying they would! Lucinda Mar 2016 #34
Pretty good actually. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #44
Where did you get your numbers? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #45
Here: NuclearDem Mar 2016 #46
Well, those states are 3-4 weeks out. I'm not concerned. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #51
Well, voter registration closed last week for New York. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #52
Maybe you should be, I'm not. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #54
Well, as you said, math isn't your strong suit... NuclearDem Mar 2016 #57
Math is limited when predicting the human heart. Very limited. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #59
Hmmm. Considering he gave Hillary a 99%+ chance of winning SheilaT Mar 2016 #53
Michigan was an open primary. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #55
LOL Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #60
Good, thanks. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #48
Well, as an actual statistical analyst Godhumor Mar 2016 #50
+1 grossproffit Mar 2016 #56

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. F is for Fail.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 05:51 AM
Mar 2016

You need to go back to school. It's not at all mathematically impossible.

Is it an involuntary reaction that you have to post things that are so completely wrong? Or is it a premeditated attempt to dissuade us?

.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
15. Heh-heh,...you've been playing that same 3-note tune
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:44 AM
Mar 2016

since May 2015.........

..so why did Bernie just finish CRUSHING the inevitable uncertain candidate three straight?....

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
30. Your ignorance and Bernie hate is showing.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:54 AM
Mar 2016

Impossible is a word that has a specific meaning.

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
2. Im afraid
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:09 AM
Mar 2016

its not going to happen, I dont care which one gets it, Im voting democrat and will vote for the nominee.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
6. Don't you know? They all moonlight as mathematicians, foreign policy experts,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:43 AM
Mar 2016

information technology experts with CCNAs, CCSPs, and Sec+ certifications, and sociologists on the regular-- I mean, that's how I justify their wide brush tarring of people and their oh so obvious understanding of subject matter.

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

yuiyoshida

(45,409 posts)
11. and the results are in!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:42 AM
Mar 2016

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Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
14. Thanks, yui !!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:33 AM
Mar 2016

I was hoping someone would alert that. I don't alert much at all, but I thought the Bircher thing was a BIT over the top!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
16. That guy is a troll. We used to be able to tell simple truths like that.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:46 AM
Mar 2016

I'll probably have my post locked, but I find myself not caring very much about that. It's more important for me to point out the obvious: Ericson00 is a fucking troll, and to my eyes, indistinguishable from a Republican.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
12. You see, the PROBLEM is that the MATH is based on the VOTERS and they are motivated by
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:59 AM
Mar 2016

ENTHUSIASM. . . . . . .

Average Hillary crowd 4,000
Average Bernie crowd 18,000 (or something like that)

That "math" is going to follow those turnouts.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
33. Well ... It does seem to run counter to a narrative ...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

It amazes me that some would hold up victories in states with populations smaller than some U.S. cities.

 

Live Bait

(93 posts)
41. Popular vote is irrelevant in the primary OR the GE.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

It's the delegates AND the EV that matters, not popular vote.

If we had popular vote, Gore would have won in 2000. No question.

But we don't so drop the popular vote meme that makes absolutely zero sense.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. I know how primaries and general elections work ...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:48 PM
Mar 2016

My comment was more to the "will of the people" of a losing campaign meme, going stound here; but, thank you and welcome to DU.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
43. Has Hillary had ONE crowd as large as 4000?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

I would guess her average is closer to 400, given how many of her events are private fundraisers. The handful of regular events i've seen from her have a few hundred people in attendance. Bernie's average is probably more like 8000. The really big crowds have been 15,000 or so, but not many of Bernie's venues have had capacities of above 10,000.

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
17. Still pretty damn good
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:47 AM
Mar 2016

The upcoming map even looks better.

Closed primaries ahead...not caucuses. Good luck.

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
19. Trash
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:20 AM
Mar 2016

If you believe that Hillary conspired with the Arizona republican Secretary of State there is no hope for you.

Caucuses are undemocratic and they disenfranchise the elderly, disabled, people with children, and the working class.

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
37. I didn't say anything about Hillary
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

I don't jump to conclusions.

There are many people with a stake in continuing neoliberal policies and hawkish foreign policy. There is also a Republican penchant for vote suppression.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
20. It's like knowing the difference of climate vs, weather, actually.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:25 AM
Mar 2016

A storm is passing over Camp Hillary at the moment, but once the clouds drop all they have, they become insubstantial and drift away.

The forecast for New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware looks to be sunny and warmer, temperatures in the 60s with a reported high of 80 in Washington DC, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico.


hack89

(39,181 posts)
21. Very good. Obama never had a lead this big in2008
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:34 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary was winning primaries in May and could still never catch up.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
23. This thread is very telling ...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Mar 2016

... even in the light of Sanders' complete sweep of the Saturday primaries, the HRC folks are doubling down on their campaign strategy of "No You Can't ".

It seems to be the general theme that surrounds her & her supporters, doesn't it? Helluva governing philosophy. No thanks.

The arc may be steep, but yes we can. :kick:

hack89

(39,181 posts)
28. We understand the delegate math
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

we know that she has victories ahead in large states that will erase Bernie's success yesterday.

hack89

(39,181 posts)
36. Why are Bernie supporters so immature?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

can't wait for the primaries to be over they they will go away.

 

Live Bait

(93 posts)
42. Her expected victories will be defeats.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

Including NY and PA.

Wisconsin belongs to Bernie.

SidDithers

(44,333 posts)
24. Sorry. It was over on March 15...
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie may get closer, then further away, then closer, then further away.

But he'll never pull ahead.

Sid

Number23

(24,544 posts)
38. Pretty much. Then when you see that less than 300,000 folks voted in all three states yesterday
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

and he's still down by 260+ delegates even after his sweep, it sure as hell puts everything in perspective.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
31. Please don't demean mathematicians
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

"Apparently Hillary supporters are all mathematicians."

I disagree with the premise. Mathematicians are very smart people.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
49. I'm flattered.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
Mar 2016

For what it's worth, the only candidate who we can be mathematically certain is not going to win on votes is Kasich, but this professional mathematician thinks that, based not on maths per se but on broadly mathematical reasoning (looking at how well things like polls, racial demographics, geography and primary vs caucus have correlated with the outcomes up until now, and how far ahead Clinton already is) only a fool would offer anything other than very, very long odds on Sanders winning, and also that by staying in he's non-trivially increasing the chance that the next US president will have a lemming on his head.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
44. Pretty good actually.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:32 PM
Mar 2016

48 point lead in a closed primary state with 247 delegates, a double digit lead in a closed primary with over 100 delegates, and a double digit lead in a closed primary with 95 delegates.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
52. Well, voter registration closed last week for New York.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016

So, maybe one should be a little worried.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
59. Math is limited when predicting the human heart. Very limited.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:49 AM
Mar 2016

You keep doing your calculations, I've got a political revolution to go to.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
53. Hmmm. Considering he gave Hillary a 99%+ chance of winning
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:37 PM
Mar 2016

Michigan, I'd say those states look at best like a toss-up.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
55. Michigan was an open primary.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

The polls were wrong because they didn't anticipate so many Democrats crossing over to vote in the GOP primary.

New York is closed.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
48. Good, thanks.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:53 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton is well ahead on delegates.

She's also ahead in the polls in Wisconsin and New York, and there aren't many caucus states left.

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