MSNBC Just Did It Again - Showed Delegate Totals Including Super Delegates No Distinction - BULL

[scottie55]

Bernie is only 200 some pledged delegates behind, but their chart showed him with 994 delegates and Hillary with 1672, and no distinction whatsoever.

Is it so hard to show the real numbers that really matter assholes?

The real numbers are Bernie is a little over 200 delegates behind Hillary, with almost half the country to still vote.

No distinction on their chart whatsoever pledged/super.

Why don't they give all the super delegates to Bernie and show him ahead, and say Bernie has the momentum, and will probably win, and all the super delegates will change at the convention?

ASSHOLES.

This is total bullshit.

MSNBC Just has to get that Clinton Girl elected so nothing can happen to campaign finance, and ad revenue!!!!!!!

[DCBob]

1. Best case scenario Bernie is 235 delegates behind after last night.

Still a huge lead given delegate allocation and the fact there are not many big delegate states left that Bernie could do well in.

[Sky Masterson]

2. It is possible that by doing so and angering those who support Bernie

Might assist Bernies GOTV effort.

[woolldog]

3. Why shouldnt they show the superdelegates in the total?

Aren't they pledged to Clinton? If so they should be included.

[scottie55]

5. They Were Pledged To Hillary Last Time Then Switched To Obama

Remember?

The people are speaking.

No more Wall Street control of our government.

If the super delegates don't listen, their careers in politics are over.

They can go to work for the banks, and corporations they really work for while pretending to be Democrats.

[woolldog]

9. Delegates can change their minds at the convention too.

But we still count them as delegates of the candidate they are pledged too. Same with superdelegates. For now the supers pledged to Clinton are pledged to Clinton. I don't see why we should pretend that they aren't.

[quantumjunkie]

11. In 2008 the MSM did not include them

If they had the narrative would have been different for Obama. It was only during May/June when we began to hear about them and the media began doing endless primers.

They are including them this year (from the very beginning) because through the direction of the DNC it helps set up a narrative for Hillary (fixing a flaw of 2008 against Obama) so it can be easier for the public to be misled into thinking she is on the verge of winning when in fact it isnt the case.

If the supers can and will switch then it is clearly a strategic move to mislead by including them for MSM broadcasts/print.

Whats even worse is that no one in media ever explains the differences and irrelevancy (their ability to switch sides) of superdelegates.

If this were a true democracy superdelegates would not exist. If you can't see that then you are more to-the-Right then i expected.

[Impedimentus]

6. Thank you for your post, it helped grow my ...

ignore list.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[woolldog]

7. Grow up.

[Impedimentus]

8. The polite response would be "Please grow up" ...

I learned that in kindergarten.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[JoePhilly]

13. + 1

[hellofromreddit]

10. Super delegates have not voted yet

Presenting pledged delegates (number based on votes actually cast) as equivalent to supers (numbers not based on votes cast) is akin to mixing vote totals with polling estimates. And history of past election cycles and even this one show us that such an estimate of supers would have an unusually high error margin. As we've seen, if the supers go against the primary results then they can face considerable political pressure to flip their votes. Being politicians, they might give in to that pressure.

They're similar things, but not actually equivalent, so combining the totals is misleading.

[SusanCalvin]

14. Oh please.

Those supers will, in the end, vote for the winner of the majority of the regular pledged delegates. But you knew that.

[rbrnmw]

4. California has a big delegate haul

SBS supporters need to phone bank hard there and New York

[JoePhilly]

12. ... "that Clinton Girl" ??

... you're slipping.

[scottie55]

18. Not Slipping

Just not happy about being robbed every time I turn around.

Not happy I have to pay more in taxes so Boeing can get a 9 billion dollar tax break.

The list goes on all the way to the Cayman Islands, and Zurich.

[JoePhilly]

19. Yea, slipping.

And it's pretty obvious.

[casperthegm]

15. what network is not biased in favor of hrc?

I used to rely on cnn and msnbc for credible news. Are there any good alternatives out there?

[lovuian]

16. The Media doesn't get it. We know what they are doing

but as everyone can see ...it's backfiring ...Bernie just won three states

if they listened what the media said ...they'd stay home

but they came out in record numbers


Media has no credibility at this point

[oldandhappy]

17. STOP watching. STOP

They are bought and paid for.