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Why are folks attacking Bernie and Jane's Marriage all of a sudden? (Original Post) blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 OP
Because noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #1
And indictments are worse than spreading bull crap. yourout Mar 2016 #7
it seems stupid given the multiple infidelities of Bill and sending her out to defend him when he roguevalley Mar 2016 #53
It's a little thing EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #2
Bookmarked, will need it shortly. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #3
Ooh... How ominous? dchill Mar 2016 #32
... Agschmid Mar 2016 #71
Because her campaign is in serious trouble. nt DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #4
Desperation. Also because attacking your opponent with your OWN weakness is SO Rovian. peacebird Mar 2016 #5
+1000 amborin Mar 2016 #9
it wouldn't do AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #6
Because he swept three primaries so the orders went out to unleash the horseshit of war. nt. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #8
It sure seems that way doesnt it? So sad and pathetic. litlbilly Mar 2016 #35
No one attacked their marriage KingFlorez Mar 2016 #10
don't stand there..ok questionseverything Mar 2016 #13
If you ignore the nasty tone and the shooing gesture it seems fine KingFlorez Mar 2016 #19
lol questionseverything Mar 2016 #34
Bernie's last and only longshot chance at being the nominee KingFlorez Mar 2016 #39
the story has been retracted. hope you enjoyed your little smirk. roguevalley Mar 2016 #56
Ok KingFlorez Mar 2016 #63
Are we exchanging rumors now? How about the one where Clinton will ask Goldman-Sachs to by rhett o rick Mar 2016 #16
Sanders is a second rate diva. Period. KingFlorez Mar 2016 #31
And we're constrained from calling YOU names... dchill Mar 2016 #44
He is an honest man fighting for the people. He has always fought for the people unlike Clinton rhett o rick Mar 2016 #99
If the Secret Service could disclose procedures Gwhittey Mar 2016 #24
Ok KingFlorez Mar 2016 #36
They haven't Gwhittey Mar 2016 #40
It looked entirely as if he was pointing to not to stand in a specific spot. Likely a spot marked by Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #75
sorry. watched the video. he wasn't the slightest bit nasty. magical thyme Mar 2016 #26
Whatever KingFlorez Mar 2016 #41
You think that's a nasty attitude? Loudestlib Mar 2016 #49
Right on - wheee - to 840high Mar 2016 #50
Which didn't happen. The story has been retracted. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #52
^^^This^^^ the story has been retracted, yet Hills folks keep trying to sell it... peacebird Mar 2016 #58
I saw it live KingFlorez Mar 2016 #60
People often see and hear what they want to see and hear. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #64
I saw Jane Sanders on stage KingFlorez Mar 2016 #67
Oh, bullshit. Jane was there. What didn't happen was Bernie being rude to her. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #69
A matter of opinion KingFlorez Mar 2016 #72
You know that old saying... The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #73
People have different ideas of what is rude KingFlorez Mar 2016 #74
No you didn't melman Mar 2016 #78
I'm not pretending KingFlorez Mar 2016 #81
I wonder why, after being told over and over, that the Clintons' marriage The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #82
She moved to the other side of him. OH NOES!! jillan Mar 2016 #94
I'm so glad they retracted it instead of continuing to defend it renate Mar 2016 #93
Well... deathrind Mar 2016 #11
Because they're disturbed individuals with nothing better or more productive to do. whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #12
Three blowout primary losses, so the Clinton gang is desperate. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #14
Where are you seeing this ? agracie Mar 2016 #15
ta-daa! MisterP Mar 2016 #27
The Clinton campaign has 147 reasons. Barack_America Mar 2016 #17
Snap! nt grasswire Mar 2016 #33
It's all they got. smiley Mar 2016 #18
Bernie got caught being rude to her on a hot mic. Nobody's "attacking their marriage." DanTex Mar 2016 #20
And the implication is? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #23
Feeds into the "grumpy" narrative is all. Not really a big deal, IMO, and I have DanTex Mar 2016 #25
Props to you! whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #28
Dirty campaign tricks....remember remember... blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #48
Yes, Hillary does all her rudeness in private nichomachus Mar 2016 #46
Nope. Story's been retracted. jeff47 Mar 2016 #59
I never saw that story, just the video. DanTex Mar 2016 #61
Which you saw after someone told you he was being rude. jeff47 Mar 2016 #65
Actually, I saw it after Bernie fans losing their heads here on DU. DanTex Mar 2016 #68
Cheap shots. Yes, despicable eom PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #21
It's what dumb trolls do, they have nothing else...pitiful as it is. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #22
The is rude and uncalled for Gwhittey Mar 2016 #29
because they cant think of anything else to do. Swinging wildly with eyes closed litlbilly Mar 2016 #30
The Clintons are the LAST people who should talk about demeaning a wife. grasswire Mar 2016 #37
It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'boinking ' is. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #43
cue Mae West here grasswire Mar 2016 #47
more recent - the Energizer bunny. 840high Mar 2016 #51
just desperation. They have nothing to attack him on. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #38
Because they're seething choie Mar 2016 #42
Didn't you hear? Bernie won big Saturday. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #45
It was Weekend At Bernie's and they are sputtering, nervous and trying hard not to let their Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #54
Nothing better to do, or perhaps it's all been bought and sold already. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #55
Because David Brock is catapulting his latest propaganda. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #57
Because this is what the hillary campaign and her supporters have always been. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #62
I don't like it either, anymore than Sanders' folks attacking B Clinton, J Lewis, D Huerta, etc. Hoyt Mar 2016 #66
Lack of ethics and intelligence Android3.14 Mar 2016 #70
It's like they are all watching for any little tibit.....to get him on... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #76
They're running out of ideas, because they never expected the need to EARN the nomination n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #77
I'm sure the Hillary campaign is very upset this is a topic. noamnety Mar 2016 #79
I agree. Beacool Mar 2016 #80
They Fear It Could Be Over corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #83
Are you suprised? PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #84
If you can't win any other way lie. jwirr Mar 2016 #85
BECAUSE THAT'S THE KIND OF THING ASSHOLES DO.[n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #86
Because they are ignorant, petty assholes. End of story. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #87
That's a can of worms they should have thought twice about opening. Autumn Mar 2016 #88
I don't think anyone's "attacking their marriage". Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #89
Hillary can I please sleep with Monica? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #90
Yes, that was horrible. Great that the Republicans impeached him (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #91
They were dumb knobs, who gives a crap if he slept with her? blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #92
Because when they attack him on policy they get their asses handed to them. Scuba Mar 2016 #95
Don't be surprised of any experiment coming out of Dr. Brockenstein's Hillbot laboratory. nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #96
maybe Bill is in the DC madam's book? ViseGrip Mar 2016 #97
Because they've got nothin' and Bernie is squeaky clean. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #98

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
53. it seems stupid given the multiple infidelities of Bill and sending her out to defend him when he
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

guilty as hell.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
5. Desperation. Also because attacking your opponent with your OWN weakness is SO Rovian.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary attacked Obama for his tone also, and his response was something to the effect of laughing and saying of course I will respond to her LIES.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
6. it wouldn't do
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

for there to be a candidate with a stable, healthy relationship in this race... would throw the whole vibe off kilter

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
10. No one attacked their marriage
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

People merely commented on his nasty attitude with her on stage. When someone is so blatantly rude with their spouse on stage it should be expected that people are going to comment.

It doesn't do much to dispel that rumor that Sanders is a pain to work with.

questionseverything

(11,952 posts)
13. don't stand there..ok
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

the horrorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

then bernie starts waving his arms around (as he is prone to do) not hitting his wife since he respectfully asked her to move back

this is the funniest day ever

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
19. If you ignore the nasty tone and the shooing gesture it seems fine
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

It was rude, period. It's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it wasn't a good look.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
39. Bernie's last and only longshot chance at being the nominee
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

Hoping to win by default is so sad.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Are we exchanging rumors now? How about the one where Clinton will ask Goldman-Sachs to by
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:32 PM
Mar 2016

VP. Not the CEO, but the corporation. Since corps are people they can run for office.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
44. And we're constrained from calling YOU names...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

Right? It's OK, I'm sure many people have taken care of that.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
99. He is an honest man fighting for the people. He has always fought for the people unlike Clinton
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

that fights for the billionaires.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
24. If the Secret Service could disclose procedures
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:36 PM
Mar 2016

You would understand why this was done. But let me say that during a open public event like this you want your wife out of the spot she was standing in. Watch the Trump Video of SS protection him when the person rushed the stage.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
36. Ok
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

I didn't realize that Secret Service had confirmed this. I didn't realize she was actually in danger.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
40. They haven't
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

as it is policy of SS to never discuss procedures. I was just telling you to watch they video of Trump to get a idea.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
75. It looked entirely as if he was pointing to not to stand in a specific spot. Likely a spot marked by
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

the Secret Service. It was probably a sightline where the Secret Service had eyes on Bernie and could not be blocked.

When he pointed down and she looked, she got it and laughed a bit and backed off.

Neither of them are accustomed to Secret Service coverage.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
26. sorry. watched the video. he wasn't the slightest bit nasty.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

He was in the middle of his speech and Jane and the other woman got in his physical space and were actually jostling and bumping into him from behind.

He simply broke from his speech, quickly asked them to not stand directly behind him and gestured with his hand, and then turned back to continue his speech.

It wasn't the time or place for him to have a lengthy discussion to explain to them that they were distracting and interfering with the speech. He therefore got his message across as quickly and simply as possible so he could get back to the business at hand.

Neither his tone nor his words were in the least bit nasty.

This is very much ado about nothing and makes clear the desperation of some people to find something, anything, to attack him for.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
41. Whatever
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
Mar 2016

It's not my candidate, so whatever it does is the problem of his supporters. I'm just stating an opinion. End of the debate.

Loudestlib

(980 posts)
49. You think that's a nasty attitude?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

You should see the attitude this guys has:?fit=crop&h=527&w=680

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,193 posts)
52. Which didn't happen. The story has been retracted.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:07 PM
Mar 2016
Sunday afternoon The New Civil Rights Movement published an article on Senator Bernie Sanders with a video showing him speaking to his wife, Dr. Jane Sanders, as the two were onstage. The article inaccurately described their interaction, and even incorrectly reported his words. The Senator appeared to say to Dr. Sanders, "Don't stand there," and we reported that as, "Don't stand next to me."

Worse, however, was the tone of the article. It described the Vermont Senator as a "cad," which we have no reason to believe is fair.

Even if we had gotten these important details correct, the question becomes, was this newsworthy? In an age where the media – sometimes us, included – breathlessly reports what seems like every comment that Donald Trump makes, and now, nearly every comment that Ted Cruz makes, one might say yes, but I do not.

This was not newsworthy, and that we suggested it was by publishing it did a disservice to our readers and to the Senator and his wife. For all this we apologize to our readers and to Senator and Mrs. Sanders. We were wrong. Our readers, and Senator and Dr. Sanders deserve better. Again, we apologize, to you all.


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/an_apology

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
58. ^^^This^^^ the story has been retracted, yet Hills folks keep trying to sell it...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

Rovian tactics, hit your opponent where YOU are weakest....

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,193 posts)
64. People often see and hear what they want to see and hear.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

You wanted to see and hear something negative about Sanders and so you did. But the publication that reported the story has retracted it and apologized.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
67. I saw Jane Sanders on stage
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

But, perhaps I'm just crazy. I apologize for what I said, she was never on stage, it was only Bernie Sanders. I cannot tell how sorry I am. I'm in tears right now.

Not really. I'm not damn crazy, the video clearly shows Jane Sanders on stage. Good grief.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,193 posts)
69. Oh, bullshit. Jane was there. What didn't happen was Bernie being rude to her.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:22 PM
Mar 2016

You wanted that to be true but the story has been retracted. That part didn't happen, much as you wish it had.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
72. A matter of opinion
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:24 PM
Mar 2016

I know rude when I see it and shooing someone like a dog is rude. Again, it's a matter of opinion.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,193 posts)
73. You know that old saying...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

You're entitled to your own opinion but you're not entitled to your own facts?

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
74. People have different ideas of what is rude
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

I saw it as rude, you didn't. Personally, I think snapping at someone and shooing at them is rude, but others might see it differently.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
78. No you didn't
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

You are pretending to think it was rude. Everybody can see that is what you are doing, so why continue?

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
81. I'm not pretending
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

That was my perception and there are others who saw it as rude too. You cannot tell some that they are pretending about their perception of something unless you are some sort of psychic or medium.

Call Dionne Warwick, because we got potential for a psychic friend here!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(131,193 posts)
82. I wonder why, after being told over and over, that the Clintons' marriage
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:43 PM
Mar 2016

is off-limits for discussion, it's perfectly OK for people to pass around false stories that have been retracted about the Sanders'? If that's OK, why may I not mention Bill's wandering weenie and blue dresses and cigars? Sauce for the goose and all that. The only difference is that the stories about Bill's escapades are actually true.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
11. Well...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:27 PM
Mar 2016

When his position on issues and his voting record cannot be attacked that leaves character.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
14. Three blowout primary losses, so the Clinton gang is desperate.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

They'll take the low road every time.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
20. Bernie got caught being rude to her on a hot mic. Nobody's "attacking their marriage."
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

Hot mic mishaps happen in politics.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
25. Feeds into the "grumpy" narrative is all. Not really a big deal, IMO, and I have
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

no idea why Bernie fans are flipping out about it.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
46. Yes, Hillary does all her rudeness in private
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

The only ones who know are those who see and hear her throwing things around. No lamp is safe when Hillary is pissed.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
59. Nope. Story's been retracted.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:12 PM
Mar 2016
Sunday afternoon The New Civil Rights Movement published an article on Senator Bernie Sanders with a video showing him speaking to his wife, Dr. Jane Sanders, as the two were onstage. The article inaccurately described their interaction, and even incorrectly reported his words. The Senator appeared to say to Dr. Sanders, "Don't stand there," and we reported that as, "Don't stand next to me."

Worse, however, was the tone of the article. It described the Vermont Senator as a "cad," which we have no reason to believe is fair.

Even if we had gotten these important details correct, the question becomes, was this newsworthy? In an age where the media – sometimes us, included – breathlessly reports what seems like every comment that Donald Trump makes, and now, nearly every comment that Ted Cruz makes, one might say yes, but I do not.

This was not newsworthy, and that we suggested it was by publishing it did a disservice to our readers and to the Senator and his wife. For all this we apologize to our readers and to Senator and Mrs. Sanders. We were wrong. Our readers, and Senator and Dr. Sanders deserve better. Again, we apologize, to you all.


http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/an_apology

'Course they've done their job with spreading the lie, so they can now pretend to have ethics with their retraction.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
65. Which you saw after someone told you he was being rude.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:17 PM
Mar 2016

Thus properly preparing you to be outraged.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
22. It's what dumb trolls do, they have nothing else...pitiful as it is.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

They don't appreciate he won by large margins in 3 states..lol.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
29. The is rude and uncalled for
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:39 PM
Mar 2016

dumb trolls are not as bad as those people so don't bring dumb trolls down to level of some of the #WithHer people.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
37. The Clintons are the LAST people who should talk about demeaning a wife.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary beating down Bill's women?

Bill boinking an intern IN THE WHITE HOUSE?

Cobalt Violet

(9,976 posts)
38. just desperation. They have nothing to attack him on.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:43 PM
Mar 2016

They're inventing problems that aren't there.

choie

(6,989 posts)
42. Because they're seething
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:46 PM
Mar 2016

with jealousy that Bernie had a wonderful moment with a bird this weekend. They can't take that there was such a powerful enthusiastic response from the public.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
45. Didn't you hear? Bernie won big Saturday.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

What else are Brock and his slimy minions going to do, discuss issues?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
54. It was Weekend At Bernie's and they are sputtering, nervous and trying hard not to let their
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:09 PM
Mar 2016

antisemitism slip out again. They know Hillary is also agitated and poised for another 'Reagan was great on AIDS' moment. It's a slow unraveling.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
66. I don't like it either, anymore than Sanders' folks attacking B Clinton, J Lewis, D Huerta, etc.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:18 PM
Mar 2016

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
76. It's like they are all watching for any little tibit.....to get him on...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016

cuz he tells the truth...and they have nothing.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
77. They're running out of ideas, because they never expected the need to EARN the nomination n/t
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016
 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
79. I'm sure the Hillary campaign is very upset this is a topic.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

They would rather be discussing Bernie's recent massive wins
the FBI investigations of Hillary
the issues - maybe a debate would be good?

corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
83. They Fear It Could Be Over
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
Mar 2016

His favorable ratings are through the roof, diametrically opposed to her negatives. In addition, quietly, her people have begun to manage expectations that he could win Wisconsin.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
84. Are you suprised?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:10 PM
Mar 2016

These people and more have absolutely disgusting post histories.

If I don't want to see them I just log in, as I have them all on ignore.

I do ponder why all the worst of the worst on DU all seem to support the same candidate. Part of me wants to think that they are Rove plants, here to just create divisiveness. No honest Democrat would behave the way those on my ignore list do, imho.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
89. I don't think anyone's "attacking their marriage".
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

It was a momentary incident of rudeness; would it have killed him to say "please"? But frankly it's not that big a deal.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
90. Hillary can I please sleep with Monica?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

...Bill it's fine, we have an agreement, just don't make a mess out of it.

 

blueintelligentsia

(507 posts)
92. They were dumb knobs, who gives a crap if he slept with her?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:39 AM
Mar 2016

I really think they have an arrangement, which I totally don't judge. And which, the country has no business making a spectacle of.

 

PonyUp

(1,680 posts)
96. Don't be surprised of any experiment coming out of Dr. Brockenstein's Hillbot laboratory. nt
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
98. Because they've got nothin' and Bernie is squeaky clean.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Meanwhile Hillary is knee-deep in scandal, lies, and corruption.

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