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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:32 PM Mar 2016

Clinton is already looking ahead to the GE campaign against Trump...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-digs-in-as-trump-moves-on-1459208576

As Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump aim to clinch their parties’ nominations, the former secretary of state is poised to start the general-election campaign with a far more sophisticated operation in key swing states than businessman.
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Clinton is already looking ahead to the GE campaign against Trump... (Original Post) hill2016 Mar 2016 OP
As she should because of...oh I don't know....MATH!!!!!!! UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #1
It's gotta Burn the Bern calguy Mar 2016 #4
SHE'S ALREADY PUT HIM WAY!!!!!! (sorry to yell) UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #6
Well said, Terp! Number23 Mar 2016 #46
First those Repubs will need to Tone it Down, though. ;-) k&r, nt appal_jack Mar 2016 #14
What kind of "sophisticated operation" is she talking about? pacalo Mar 2016 #2
Well to be fair, many foreign govts have paid for Clinton Foundation "services" in advance, time to peacebird Mar 2016 #3
I hate to say this, but after all I've learned pacalo Mar 2016 #5
She's been running against the Republicans since she announced. okasha Mar 2016 #7
She is her greatest threat timmymoff Mar 2016 #9
The greatest threat to us all. okasha Mar 2016 #17
Frankly timmymoff Mar 2016 #19
Frankly, okasha Mar 2016 #22
well we did a bang up job with timmymoff Mar 2016 #24
Do not assume that you are "people" okasha Mar 2016 #26
Do people find her Trustworthy according to polling? timmymoff Mar 2016 #44
I agree with your last word. sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #11
I hate to tell you the sad news, okasha Mar 2016 #18
Drip, drip..,drip....drip sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #29
You're subconsciously in love with me? okasha Mar 2016 #30
I think at this point, it's much more likely that Ted Cruz will be the nominee. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #8
You may be right about Trump, but if sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #13
You're probably right. Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #15
Well then she will need the six million people who have invested in Bernie awake Mar 2016 #10
I posted this in another thread... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #12
Nope, 75% of women including 47% of Republican women won't vote for Trump stevenleser Mar 2016 #16
Please tell me.. Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #20
Look, I'm sorry you have actually bought into the anti-Hillary campaign propaganda stevenleser Mar 2016 #25
Please don't... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #27
The Black, Latino and female communities okasha Mar 2016 #32
I read Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #33
Since you've only been with us a couple of weeks, okasha Mar 2016 #35
But... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #36
You're pretty obvious. okasha Mar 2016 #41
Am I? Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #42
I did not threaten you. okasha Mar 2016 #43
No... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #45
kind of like you did in '08? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #31
Nope. I thought Obama was better. stevenleser Mar 2016 #47
The "Clock WILL Be Cleaned" In One Seminal Moment.... CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #48
I hope she can handle his tone because, apparently, Bernie's is giving her the vapors. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #21
I'm sure she is, but she hasn't even crafted a coherent message for the Democratic Primary Hydra Mar 2016 #23
"isn't that special?" k8conant Mar 2016 #28
In fact, she's already picked out her inauguration dress nichomachus Mar 2016 #34
Oh that's perfect, my dear nichomachus! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #37
Does it come complete Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #38
No nichomachus Mar 2016 #39
Then she'll literally be Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #40

calguy

(5,733 posts)
4. It's gotta Burn the Bern
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:40 PM
Mar 2016

But life goes on. Hillary knows she will all but put Bernie away after those big east states like NY, NJ, PA.
It's only prudent to look at the future and get after the real foe....the Trumpster.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
6. SHE'S ALREADY PUT HIM WAY!!!!!! (sorry to yell)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:50 PM
Mar 2016

I don't give a DAMN what narrative other people are pushing. She's already put him away. I'm just sitting back and waiting until June because its official. I'm not getting worked up over nonsense because he won some caucus states over the weekend that put a little dent in her delegate lead. There are big states upcoming where he won't win by those margins to catch up to her delegate count. People can post whatever they want and say its not over until they are blue in the face and show me cartoons of little birdies all they want. I know math and yes while its not impossible, its improbable. So yes she should be pivoting to the general election.

pacalo

(24,727 posts)
2. What kind of "sophisticated operation" is she talking about?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:36 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, she has her own server in her basement; for what did the Clinton Foundation fork out to make things happen?

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. Well to be fair, many foreign govts have paid for Clinton Foundation "services" in advance, time to
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:38 PM
Mar 2016

Pony up.....

pacalo

(24,727 posts)
5. I hate to say this, but after all I've learned
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:49 PM
Mar 2016

the image of suitcases full of money being handed out to those who comply comes to mind when she or her people talk as though the primaries have been decided. Hillary said from the beginning, "He's not gonna win".

I just don't have any faith that she even cares about the people outside of her new income bracket.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
7. She's been running against the Republicans since she announced.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

She's hardly mentioned Sanders until he broke his word and went negative.

Sanders is a distraction. Trump is the real threat. Priorities.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
17. The greatest threat to us all.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

Frankly, I think she'll reduce Trump to a quivering hunk of melting lard, just as she did Trey Gowdy.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
19. Frankly
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

I think her candidacy shows how weak she is. Someone that has been running since 2007 can't put quite beat Bernie Sanders. She will cost us gains in the house, and gains in state and local government. She was the worst candidate out of the top three running, but she was better than Webb and Chafee.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
24. well we did a bang up job with
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

her former campaign co chair heading the dnc . 900 state seats, 16 governorships, house and senate losses. The track record of success is not there. But hey people find her trustworthy... oh wait.. honest.. oh wait.. capable.. oh wait. sincere... oh wait. Inspiring.. oh wait ... nevermind. She will be the best democratic candidate money can buy.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
26. Do not assume that you are "people"
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:37 PM
Mar 2016

or that the majority of people must necessarily share your views because you're convinced you're right. Voting results so far say you're wrong.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
44. Do people find her Trustworthy according to polling?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:01 AM
Mar 2016

I am the people, just as you are. Independents are people, just as you are. Her negatives are as high as Donald Trump's. Do you deny that?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
11. I agree with your last word.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:58 PM
Mar 2016

Priorities: Don't count your chickens
before they have hatched.

She definitely should look carefully at a possibility
that the FBI investigation as well as others may
defeat her high aim.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
18. I hate to tell you the sad news,
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:01 AM - Edit history (1)

but the Indictment Fairy fell victim to Lady Cottington. Poor wee thing.

(See Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book.)

okasha

(11,573 posts)
30. You're subconsciously in love with me?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:10 AM
Mar 2016

The King is going to have me shot?

You're royalty of Hungaria?

To quote 'enry 'iggins:

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
8. I think at this point, it's much more likely that Ted Cruz will be the nominee.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:55 PM
Mar 2016

If Trump manages to pull out a win in Wisconsin, then yes, I do think he will be the nominee. However the GOP is attacking him on all fronts and it's working. I don't see Kasich getting the nomination without destroying the party, the age of television and the internet would bludgeon their party for it.

Leaving the only viable option, Cruz.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
13. You may be right about Trump, but if
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:01 PM
Mar 2016

it comes to Cruz, I disagree. The party will try
its best to chose by any shenanigans Kasich.

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
15. You're probably right.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

They will try, I just don't think it will succeed without it destroying their party. There have been a handful of people who've jumped on the Cruz bandwagon, those people will need to stick with him as if they do not, it will double screw their party. In any case, a Costco run will be in order!

awake

(3,226 posts)
10. Well then she will need the six million people who have invested in Bernie
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

Lately Hillary supporters are trashing Bernie and those who believe in his ideas, before Hillary can truly take on the Republicans she will need most of Bernie's supports and continuing to trash talk about Bernie's backers will only make it harder for us all to move on.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
12. I posted this in another thread...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:59 PM
Mar 2016

but it needs repeating....

If it is Clinton v Trump in the GE...

Trump will turn to Clinton and say, "I gave money to both your campaign for Senate & the Clinton Foundation, in order to get the following favors, which you did. I personally know you do favors for rich donors, so please tell America what you promised to do for Wall Street and Pharma firms..." It will be at that moment she loses the GE.

I hope I am wrong l, but Trump already hinted at this during a debate and in speeches. If he does is, it would be devastating for the Hillary campaign.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. Nope, 75% of women including 47% of Republican women won't vote for Trump
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

He has a 17% favorable ratings among Latinos and a nearly 80% unfavorable rating. His unfavorables are also sky high among Muslims, African Americans and Jews.

He can't get enough white Christian men to the polls to offset those problems.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
20. Please tell me..
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

... If there has been a survey that gives a breakdown that who would vote for a person that owes favors to wall street. Before you say it, because we follow politics we may know such is nonsense. But, do you trust those that don't and who have been bombarded by 30 years of anti-Hillary too -- especially when she seems to be in the pocket of those that stole their pension or house from them? I wouldn't bank on that.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
25. Look, I'm sorry you have actually bought into the anti-Hillary campaign propaganda
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:30 PM
Mar 2016

most people won't. But let's assume they did. They are going to punish Hillary for the mortgage scandal by supporting a billionaire and one of the biggest real estate developers in the country who has done all kinds of shady real estate deals bailed himself out via bankruptcy several times and knowingly dealt with the mafia?

Oh and someone who also women despise and won't vote for, someone who Latinos despise and won't vote for, African Americans won't vote for, etc?

Is that what you would have me buy?

There is no narrative that gets you there.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
27. Please don't...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:38 PM
Mar 2016

..Say a whole group won't vote for someone because they are a member of said group.That is utterly racist and hateful. Tbe Black and Latino communities are not a homogeneous unit that votes one way or the other because they are a member of that community.


ETA: I reread what you said and were talking about Trump. That said, what I wrote still is true.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
32. The Black, Latino and female communities
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:17 AM
Mar 2016

know Trump despises us. Why on earth do you think we'd vote for him?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
33. I read
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

The comment wrong, but implying a group is fully unified behind a cause is to stereotype those that don't.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
35. Since you've only been with us a couple of weeks,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:31 AM
Mar 2016

I suggest you look up some of the threads about mansplainin' and whitesplainin' and why they're offensive.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
36. But...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:36 AM
Mar 2016

Isn't implying someone is mansplaining or whitesplaining offensive when you don't know who you are accusing of such? Even after reading my profile, you can only ascertain my sex not my race or life experiences?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
42. Am I?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

No, you threatened me and implied you knew me. I let the subtle threat slide, but don't you dare assume you know me.

Maybe I said what I did from experience and not from some 'splaining platform.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
43. I did not threaten you.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:00 AM
Mar 2016

Nor did I imply I know you. I can, however, see what you post on this forum and draw conclusions. You really can't stop me from doing so or from "daring" to think what I think.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
45. No...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:07 AM
Mar 2016

The implied threat came when you said I was new here and should head the warning of your 'explaining examples. Thus, implying I should step in line. I never hid what I posted or implied that I was. You can read all of them, reading of such still doesn't give you the right to accuse me of 'x:splaining'

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
23. I'm sure she is, but she hasn't even crafted a coherent message for the Democratic Primary
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
Mar 2016

So I'm not sure what she's planning on rolling out for the GE when she's having trouble now. "I'm not Donald!"?

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