Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:32 PM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
Clinton is already looking ahead to the GE campaign against Trump...
http://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-digs-in-as-trump-moves-on-1459208576
As Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump aim to clinch their parties’ nominations, the former secretary of state is poised to start the general-election campaign with a far more sophisticated operation in key swing states than businessman.
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hill2016 | Mar 2016 | OP |
UMTerp01 | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
calguy | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
UMTerp01 | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
Number23 | Mar 2016 | #46 | |
appal_jack | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
pacalo | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
peacebird | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
pacalo | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
timmymoff | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #17 | |
timmymoff | Mar 2016 | #19 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #22 | |
timmymoff | Mar 2016 | #24 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #26 | |
timmymoff | Mar 2016 | #44 | |
sadoldgirl | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #18 | |
sadoldgirl | Mar 2016 | #29 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #30 | |
Firebrand Gary | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
sadoldgirl | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
Firebrand Gary | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
awake | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
stevenleser | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #20 | |
stevenleser | Mar 2016 | #25 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #27 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #32 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #33 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #35 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #36 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #41 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #42 | |
okasha | Mar 2016 | #43 | |
Else You Are Mad | Mar 2016 | #45 | |
ibegurpard | Mar 2016 | #31 | |
stevenleser | Mar 2016 | #47 | |
CorporatistNation | Mar 2016 | #48 | |
Luminous Animal | Mar 2016 | #21 | |
Hydra | Mar 2016 | #23 | |
k8conant | Mar 2016 | #28 | |
nichomachus | Mar 2016 | #34 | |
CaliforniaPeggy | Mar 2016 | #37 | |
Art_from_Ark | Mar 2016 | #38 | |
nichomachus | Mar 2016 | #39 | |
Art_from_Ark | Mar 2016 | #40 |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:33 PM
UMTerp01 (1,048 posts)
1. As she should because of...oh I don't know....MATH!!!!!!!
N/T
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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #1)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:40 PM
calguy (3,677 posts)
4. It's gotta Burn the Bern
But life goes on. Hillary knows she will all but put Bernie away after those big east states like NY, NJ, PA.
It's only prudent to look at the future and get after the real foe....the Trumpster. |
Response to calguy (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:50 PM
UMTerp01 (1,048 posts)
6. SHE'S ALREADY PUT HIM WAY!!!!!! (sorry to yell)
I don't give a DAMN what narrative other people are pushing. She's already put him away. I'm just sitting back and waiting until June because its official. I'm not getting worked up over nonsense because he won some caucus states over the weekend that put a little dent in her delegate lead. There are big states upcoming where he won't win by those margins to catch up to her delegate count. People can post whatever they want and say its not over until they are blue in the face and show me cartoons of little birdies all they want. I know math and yes while its not impossible, its improbable. So yes she should be pivoting to the general election.
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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #6)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:20 AM
Number23 (24,544 posts)
46. Well said, Terp!
Very well said!
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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #1)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:02 PM
appal_jack (3,813 posts)
14. First those Repubs will need to Tone it Down, though. ;-) k&r, nt
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:36 PM
pacalo (24,721 posts)
2. What kind of "sophisticated operation" is she talking about?
I mean, she has her own server in her basement; for what did the Clinton Foundation fork out to make things happen?
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Response to pacalo (Reply #2)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:38 PM
peacebird (14,195 posts)
3. Well to be fair, many foreign govts have paid for Clinton Foundation "services" in advance, time to
Pony up.....
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Response to peacebird (Reply #3)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:49 PM
pacalo (24,721 posts)
5. I hate to say this, but after all I've learned
the image of suitcases full of money being handed out to those who comply comes to mind when she or her people talk as though the primaries have been decided. Hillary said from the beginning, "He's not gonna win".
I just don't have any faith that she even cares about the people outside of her new income bracket. |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:52 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
7. She's been running against the Republicans since she announced.
She's hardly mentioned Sanders until he broke his word and went negative.
Sanders is a distraction. Trump is the real threat. Priorities. |
Response to okasha (Reply #7)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:56 PM
timmymoff (1,947 posts)
9. She is her greatest threat
She has earned that position being on every side of every issue.
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Response to timmymoff (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:11 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
17. The greatest threat to us all.
Frankly, I think she'll reduce Trump to a quivering hunk of melting lard, just as she did Trey Gowdy.
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Response to okasha (Reply #17)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:15 PM
timmymoff (1,947 posts)
19. Frankly
I think her candidacy shows how weak she is. Someone that has been running since 2007 can't put quite beat Bernie Sanders. She will cost us gains in the house, and gains in state and local government. She was the worst candidate out of the top three running, but she was better than Webb and Chafee.
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Response to timmymoff (Reply #19)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:24 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
22. Frankly,
I think you're wrong on all counts except for the second half of your last sentence.
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Response to okasha (Reply #22)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
timmymoff (1,947 posts)
24. well we did a bang up job with
her former campaign co chair heading the dnc . 900 state seats, 16 governorships, house and senate losses. The track record of success is not there. But hey people find her trustworthy... oh wait.. honest.. oh wait.. capable.. oh wait. sincere... oh wait. Inspiring.. oh wait ... nevermind. She will be the best democratic candidate money can buy.
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Response to timmymoff (Reply #24)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:37 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
26. Do not assume that you are "people"
or that the majority of people must necessarily share your views because you're convinced you're right. Voting results so far say you're wrong.
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Response to timmymoff (Reply #24)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:01 AM
timmymoff (1,947 posts)
44. Do people find her Trustworthy according to polling?
I am the people, just as you are. Independents are people, just as you are. Her negatives are as high as Donald Trump's. Do you deny that?
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Response to okasha (Reply #7)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:58 PM
sadoldgirl (3,431 posts)
11. I agree with your last word.
Priorities: Don't count your chickens
before they have hatched. She definitely should look carefully at a possibility that the FBI investigation as well as others may defeat her high aim. |
Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #11)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:15 PM
okasha (11,573 posts)
18. I hate to tell you the sad news,
Last edited Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:01 AM - Edit history (1) but the Indictment Fairy fell victim to Lady Cottington. Poor wee thing.
(See Lady Cottington's Pressed Fairy Book.) |
Response to okasha (Reply #18)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:58 PM
sadoldgirl (3,431 posts)
29. Drip, drip..,drip....drip
Just you wait, Henry Higgins,
just you wait. |
Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #29)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:10 AM
okasha (11,573 posts)
30. You're subconsciously in love with me?
The King is going to have me shot?
You're royalty of Hungaria? To quote 'enry 'iggins: ![]() |
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:55 PM
Firebrand Gary (5,044 posts)
8. I think at this point, it's much more likely that Ted Cruz will be the nominee.
If Trump manages to pull out a win in Wisconsin, then yes, I do think he will be the nominee. However the GOP is attacking him on all fronts and it's working. I don't see Kasich getting the nomination without destroying the party, the age of television and the internet would bludgeon their party for it.
Leaving the only viable option, Cruz. ![]() |
Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #8)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:01 PM
sadoldgirl (3,431 posts)
13. You may be right about Trump, but if
it comes to Cruz, I disagree. The party will try
its best to chose by any shenanigans Kasich. |
Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #13)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:05 PM
Firebrand Gary (5,044 posts)
15. You're probably right.
They will try, I just don't think it will succeed without it destroying their party. There have been a handful of people who've jumped on the Cruz bandwagon, those people will need to stick with him as if they do not, it will double screw their party. In any case, a Costco run will be in order!
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:56 PM
awake (3,226 posts)
10. Well then she will need the six million people who have invested in Bernie
Lately Hillary supporters are trashing Bernie and those who believe in his ideas, before Hillary can truly take on the Republicans she will need most of Bernie's supports and continuing to trash talk about Bernie's backers will only make it harder for us all to move on.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:59 PM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
12. I posted this in another thread...
but it needs repeating....
If it is Clinton v Trump in the GE... Trump will turn to Clinton and say, "I gave money to both your campaign for Senate & the Clinton Foundation, in order to get the following favors, which you did. I personally know you do favors for rich donors, so please tell America what you promised to do for Wall Street and Pharma firms..." It will be at that moment she loses the GE. I hope I am wrong l, but Trump already hinted at this during a debate and in speeches. If he does is, it would be devastating for the Hillary campaign. |
Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #12)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:10 PM
stevenleser (32,886 posts)
16. Nope, 75% of women including 47% of Republican women won't vote for Trump
He has a 17% favorable ratings among Latinos and a nearly 80% unfavorable rating. His unfavorables are also sky high among Muslims, African Americans and Jews.
He can't get enough white Christian men to the polls to offset those problems. |
Response to stevenleser (Reply #16)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:17 PM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
20. Please tell me..
... If there has been a survey that gives a breakdown that who would vote for a person that owes favors to wall street. Before you say it, because we follow politics we may know such is nonsense. But, do you trust those that don't and who have been bombarded by 30 years of anti-Hillary too -- especially when she seems to be in the pocket of those that stole their pension or house from them? I wouldn't bank on that.
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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #20)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:30 PM
stevenleser (32,886 posts)
25. Look, I'm sorry you have actually bought into the anti-Hillary campaign propaganda
most people won't. But let's assume they did. They are going to punish Hillary for the mortgage scandal by supporting a billionaire and one of the biggest real estate developers in the country who has done all kinds of shady real estate deals bailed himself out via bankruptcy several times and knowingly dealt with the mafia?
Oh and someone who also women despise and won't vote for, someone who Latinos despise and won't vote for, African Americans won't vote for, etc? Is that what you would have me buy? There is no narrative that gets you there. |
Response to stevenleser (Reply #25)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:38 PM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
27. Please don't...
..Say a whole group won't vote for someone because they are a member of said group.That is utterly racist and hateful. Tbe Black and Latino communities are not a homogeneous unit that votes one way or the other because they are a member of that community.
ETA: I reread what you said and were talking about Trump. That said, what I wrote still is true. |
Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #27)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:17 AM
okasha (11,573 posts)
32. The Black, Latino and female communities
know Trump despises us. Why on earth do you think we'd vote for him?
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Response to okasha (Reply #32)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:20 AM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
33. I read
The comment wrong, but implying a group is fully unified behind a cause is to stereotype those that don't.
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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #33)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:31 AM
okasha (11,573 posts)
35. Since you've only been with us a couple of weeks,
I suggest you look up some of the threads about mansplainin' and whitesplainin' and why they're offensive.
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Response to okasha (Reply #35)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:36 AM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
36. But...
Isn't implying someone is mansplaining or whitesplaining offensive when you don't know who you are accusing of such? Even after reading my profile, you can only ascertain my sex not my race or life experiences?
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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #36)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:44 AM
okasha (11,573 posts)
41. You're pretty obvious.
But I addressed what you did, not who you are.
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Response to okasha (Reply #41)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:48 AM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
42. Am I?
No, you threatened me and implied you knew me. I let the subtle threat slide, but don't you dare assume you know me.
Maybe I said what I did from experience and not from some 'splaining platform. |
Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #42)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:00 AM
okasha (11,573 posts)
43. I did not threaten you.
Nor did I imply I know you. I can, however, see what you post on this forum and draw conclusions. You really can't stop me from doing so or from "daring" to think what I think.
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Response to okasha (Reply #43)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:07 AM
Else You Are Mad (3,040 posts)
45. No...
The implied threat came when you said I was new here and should head the warning of your 'explaining examples. Thus, implying I should step in line. I never hid what I posted or implied that I was. You can read all of them, reading of such still doesn't give you the right to accuse me of 'x:splaining'
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Response to stevenleser (Reply #25)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:11 AM
ibegurpard (16,664 posts)
31. kind of like you did in '08?
Response to ibegurpard (Reply #31)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:25 PM
stevenleser (32,886 posts)
47. Nope. I thought Obama was better.
P.s., that meme is getting pretty stale
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Response to Else You Are Mad (Reply #12)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:31 PM
CorporatistNation (2,546 posts)
48. The "Clock WILL Be Cleaned" In One Seminal Moment....
You can put MONEY on it!
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:18 PM
Luminous Animal (27,310 posts)
21. I hope she can handle his tone because, apparently, Bernie's is giving her the vapors.
Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
Hydra (14,459 posts)
23. I'm sure she is, but she hasn't even crafted a coherent message for the Democratic Primary
So I'm not sure what she's planning on rolling out for the GE when she's having trouble now. "I'm not Donald!"?
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:44 PM
k8conant (3,001 posts)
28. "isn't that special?"
to quote Church Lady.
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Response to hill2016 (Original post)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:30 AM
nichomachus (12,754 posts)
34. In fact, she's already picked out her inauguration dress
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #34)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:37 AM
CaliforniaPeggy (142,790 posts)
37. Oh that's perfect, my dear nichomachus!
Perfect for her Coronation!
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #34)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:38 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
38. Does it come complete
with crown, sceptre, and globus cruciger?
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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #38)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:39 AM
nichomachus (12,754 posts)
39. No
Those will be provided by Goldman Sachs
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #39)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:41 AM
Art_from_Ark (27,247 posts)
40. Then she'll literally be
reigning in Wall Street
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