2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think there have been enough debates.
At this point, if people are still undecided, I don't think another debate is going to make a difference.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)The ones who believe in the corporate foregone conclusion want to squash any and all uprisings.
ibegurpard
(16,815 posts)About who or what this particular poster actually supports.
Blue_Adept
(6,431 posts)It's not like there'll be much new if anything that comes from this. It all just gets to be mindnumbing after a while - both for those that follow it and those that don't care.
think
(11,641 posts)and newspapers promote the fact fact that there is a debate in their state. This gets more people exposed to the Democratic message.
If Democrats are going to win people need to know what they stand for.
Debates in many different parts of the country are a great way to get exposure to Democratic issues.
HughLefty1
(231 posts)Many folks don't get serious about watching debates or researching the candidates until a few weeks before their local elections.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)Odd that 'at this point', how did you decide that this exact time frame would be 'the point' at which no further debates are needed?
Don't the 22 remaining primaries and folks that have yet to cast their votes get a voice in that time frame? Do their voices and votes count?
I bet if HRC and her supporters push this I bet they will make their decisions much quicker and not in the direction you'd like...
hill2016
(1,772 posts)do we really need more debates?
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)you'd think HRC and her supporters would scramble for the chance to debate foreign policy issues in light of the recent Brussels attack since they believe their candidate is 'stronger' on that particular issue...
'More than halfway through'... again, 22 primaries left with all those voters yet to decide, stronger candidates would jump at the idea of more debates to strengthen their position
HRC and her supporters must not feel that strongly about their position...
Broward
(1,976 posts)If she goes back on her word, she'll likely lose many votes in the general election if she's the nominees. Also, no way should Bernie endorse her.
DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)Just win, baby!
Bad Thoughts
(2,608 posts)Clinton goes up, Sanders goes down.
Sanders goes down, Clinton goes up.
Apparently people change their mind. Sometimes they want information.
Please, take a good look at all the surveys. Then return here with a new OP: "We need more debates to convince people about Hillary!"
hack89
(39,179 posts)as a front runner, Hillary has no desire to give Bernie a helping hand before some major primaries. Bernie is desperate - it is not Hillary's job to help him.
Bad Thoughts
(2,608 posts)She made it seem as if static polls would indicate an electorate that was unchanging. The polling tells a different story.
You separate point has its own flaw: candidates benefit in the generals from an extended primary that keeps the conversation about the issues alive in the public consciousness. Even the candidate who is ahead should not, indeed, must not, give up on that advantage.
hack89
(39,179 posts)it is dangerous letting an opponent hang around any longer than necessary. There will be plenty of time for issues once the nomination is wrapped up.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Been more democratic debates last fall., but insead, it has been 24/7 showings of the clowns on the right. And we wonder why trump is ahead....
MoonRiver
(36,959 posts)IMO, she always wins, hands down. But I agree that it probably will change no opinions, at this point.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)End of story!
Anything else looks weak! The argument up to this point and a major criticism of DWS, was that there wasn't enough debates.
Hillary looks weak and like she's hiding something. If the DNC backs her position. It will look even worse.
I'm waiting for what DWS has to say.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Whether you will admit it or not, Bernie does not have the name recognition of Hillary Clinton, so not everyone knows who he is. What usually happens after they hear him - they switch.
That's why Hillary and her supporters (like you), don't want another debate.
It's undemocratic.
LonePirate
(13,838 posts)People know who Bernie Sanders is. They may not be fully informed about his policy positions but almost all Dems and Dem leaning Independentsno now who he is and that he is running for President.
I'm all for more debates even if I am personally tired of them. Pretty much every Dem debate has been exactly like all of the other oneself have regard to the issues.
PragmaticLiberal
(911 posts)I don't really care if one of them is in New York or not...they just need to be held.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)A NY debate??? Never...Hillary has much to loose, and Bernie has much to gain.
awake
(3,226 posts)Just let the Republicans get the air time and we can just keep going along to get along.
I am so tired of the way the DNC keeps rolling over and letting the right set the agenda.
JudyM
(29,491 posts)How many debates did Hillary get with BO? Any idea? Probably not.
riversedge
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TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)riversedge
(72,719 posts)riversedge
(72,719 posts)TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)We've had debates about the auto industry in Michigan and Ohio.
Debates about the Texas border.
Debate about the effect of climate change on Florida cities.
What about a debate on issues of specific interest to New Yorkers and others of that region?
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)I want more.
I think Bernie has more to gain then Hillary does from it, so denying Bernie the Debate is a simple chess move.
Land of Enchantment
(1,217 posts)delve into the meat and bones of the issues. I want to hear more about Hillary's spiritual awakening concerning Citizen's United, the top $$$$$$ donors who comprise the rotting entrails that are corporate funded elections and maybe--just once---some mention of climate change and global warming.
We're just getting started!!!!!
TheDormouse
(1,168 posts)and on whether the candidates support a greenhouse emissions/carbon tax.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
athena
(4,187 posts)The last two debates were almost exactly identical. If there is another debate, I probably won't watch it because I can't stand to see Sanders wave his hands in the air and shake his head the entire time Clinton is speaking. President Obama was a good enough politician to know not to do that.