Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:44 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

I think there have been enough debates.

At this point, if people are still undecided, I don't think another debate is going to make a difference.

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40 replies	Author	Time	Post
I think there have been enough debates. (Original post)	hill2016	Mar 2016	OP
oh	H2O Man	Mar 2016	#1
Why did I think when I opened this OP that a Hillary supporter would be saying this.	bkkyosemite	Mar 2016	#2
Who else would.	hobbit709	Mar 2016	#5
I have my doubts	ibegurpard	Mar 2016	#15
I agree with them as a Bernie supporter	Blue_Adept	Mar 2016	#17
Many people haven't seen a debate yet. When there is a debate in a state or region the local TV news	think	Mar 2016	#3
My state doesn't vote until June 7th	HughLefty1	Mar 2016	#10
exactly!	oldandhappy	Mar 2016	#13
"At this point"...	HumanityExperiment	Mar 2016	#4
more than halfway through the primaries...	hill2016	Mar 2016	#9
"do we really need more debates"...	HumanityExperiment	Mar 2016	#12
She agreed to more debates.	Broward	Mar 2016	#6
The late Al Davis would love the Clinton campaign	DefenseLawyer	Mar 2016	#7
Every poll will disabuse you of that notion	Bad Thoughts	Mar 2016	#8
But each candidate needs to decide what is best for their campaigns	hack89	Mar 2016	#24
That was not the OP's argument	Bad Thoughts	Mar 2016	#36
It is the foolish politician that doesn't go for the kill first chance they have	hack89	Mar 2016	#37
I agree. Enough with the debates already. If anything, there should have	AgadorSparticus	Mar 2016	#11
I love watching Hillary debate, so I have mixed feelings about it.	MoonRiver	Mar 2016	#14
There's two more official debates scheduled.	NWCorona	Mar 2016	#16
So you think people who haven't voted yet should be deprived of exposure to Bernie?	Avalux	Mar 2016	#18
Have people been living under a rock for the past three months?	LonePirate	Mar 2016	#32
Whether you're right or not, two more debates were agreed upon.	PragmaticLiberal	Mar 2016	#19
It appears after each debate Bernie picks up more supporters	angstlessk	Mar 2016	#20
Ya why get free prime time tv to present our Democrat issues and ideas on how to solve our problems	awake	Mar 2016	#21
I think this post is meaningless.	JudyM	Mar 2016	#22
Why not do some reseach if you are interested?	riversedge	Mar 2016	#28
My question was rhetorical. They had far more debates.	JudyM	Mar 2016	#34
This message was self-deleted by its author	JudyM	Mar 2016	#33
This message was self-deleted by its author	JudyM	Mar 2016	#23
Most of the debates have been on subscription cable tv--not everyone has access nt	TheDormouse	Mar 2016	#25
I think one was on npr? correct if wrong. Have any networks offered?	riversedge	Mar 2016	#27
I agree.	riversedge	Mar 2016	#26
How many of these debates have focused on New York regional issues?	TheDormouse	Mar 2016	#29
As a Political Junkie and a Sanders supporter	Sky Masterson	Mar 2016	#30
Awwww, c'mon. This is just now getting GOOD. Let's have two or three more debates and really	Land of Enchantment	Mar 2016	#31
I think NY'ers deserve to hear where the candidates stand on fracking in NY State	TheDormouse	Mar 2016	#35
Your candidate disagrees, debate NY is on.	Bluenorthwest	Mar 2016	#38
What is there left to discuss?	athena	Mar 2016	#39
Then why did Hillary agree to debates in April and May?	Joe the Revelator	Mar 2016	#40

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:45 PM

H2O Man (69,138 posts)

1. oh

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:45 PM

bkkyosemite (5,792 posts)

2. Why did I think when I opened this OP that a Hillary supporter would be saying this.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:51 PM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)

5. Who else would.

The ones who believe in the corporate foregone conclusion want to squash any and all uprisings.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:05 PM

ibegurpard (16,664 posts)

15. I have my doubts

About who or what this particular poster actually supports.

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Response to bkkyosemite (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:19 PM

Blue_Adept (6,347 posts)

17. I agree with them as a Bernie supporter

It's not like there'll be much new if anything that comes from this. It all just gets to be mindnumbing after a while - both for those that follow it and those that don't care.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:48 PM

think (11,641 posts)

3. Many people haven't seen a debate yet. When there is a debate in a state or region the local TV news

and newspapers promote the fact fact that there is a debate in their state. This gets more people exposed to the Democratic message.

If Democrats are going to win people need to know what they stand for.

Debates in many different parts of the country are a great way to get exposure to Democratic issues.

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Response to think (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:56 PM

HughLefty1 (231 posts)

10. My state doesn't vote until June 7th

Many folks don't get serious about watching debates or researching the candidates until a few weeks before their local elections.

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Response to HughLefty1 (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:04 PM

oldandhappy (6,719 posts)

13. exactly!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:49 PM

HumanityExperiment (1,442 posts)

4. "At this point"...

Odd that 'at this point', how did you decide that this exact time frame would be 'the point' at which no further debates are needed?

Don't the 22 remaining primaries and folks that have yet to cast their votes get a voice in that time frame? Do their voices and votes count?

I bet if HRC and her supporters push this I bet they will make their decisions much quicker and not in the direction you'd like...

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Response to HumanityExperiment (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:55 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

9. more than halfway through the primaries...

do we really need more debates?

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Response to hill2016 (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:01 PM

HumanityExperiment (1,442 posts)

12. "do we really need more debates"...

you'd think HRC and her supporters would scramble for the chance to debate foreign policy issues in light of the recent Brussels attack since they believe their candidate is 'stronger' on that particular issue...

'More than halfway through'... again, 22 primaries left with all those voters yet to decide, stronger candidates would jump at the idea of more debates to strengthen their position

HRC and her supporters must not feel that strongly about their position...

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:51 PM

Broward (1,976 posts)

6. She agreed to more debates.

If she goes back on her word, she'll likely lose many votes in the general election if she's the nominees. Also, no way should Bernie endorse her.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:52 PM

DefenseLawyer (11,101 posts)

7. The late Al Davis would love the Clinton campaign

Just win, baby!

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:54 PM

Bad Thoughts (2,480 posts)

8. Every poll will disabuse you of that notion

Clinton goes up, Sanders goes down.
Sanders goes down, Clinton goes up.

Apparently people change their mind. Sometimes they want information.

Please, take a good look at all the surveys. Then return here with a new OP: "We need more debates to convince people about Hillary!"

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Response to Bad Thoughts (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:47 PM

hack89 (39,067 posts)

24. But each candidate needs to decide what is best for their campaigns

as a front runner, Hillary has no desire to give Bernie a helping hand before some major primaries. Bernie is desperate - it is not Hillary's job to help him.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #24)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:10 PM

Bad Thoughts (2,480 posts)

36. That was not the OP's argument

She made it seem as if static polls would indicate an electorate that was unchanging. The polling tells a different story.

You separate point has its own flaw: candidates benefit in the generals from an extended primary that keeps the conversation about the issues alive in the public consciousness. Even the candidate who is ahead should not, indeed, must not, give up on that advantage.

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Response to Bad Thoughts (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:19 PM

hack89 (39,067 posts)

37. It is the foolish politician that doesn't go for the kill first chance they have

it is dangerous letting an opponent hang around any longer than necessary. There will be plenty of time for issues once the nomination is wrapped up.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:59 PM

AgadorSparticus (7,963 posts)

11. I agree. Enough with the debates already. If anything, there should have

Been more democratic debates last fall., but insead, it has been 24/7 showings of the clowns on the right. And we wonder why trump is ahead....

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:04 PM

MoonRiver (36,925 posts)

14. I love watching Hillary debate, so I have mixed feelings about it.

IMO, she always wins, hands down. But I agree that it probably will change no opinions, at this point.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:16 PM

NWCorona (8,541 posts)

16. There's two more official debates scheduled.

End of story!

Anything else looks weak! The argument up to this point and a major criticism of DWS, was that there wasn't enough debates.

Hillary looks weak and like she's hiding something. If the DNC backs her position. It will look even worse.

I'm waiting for what DWS has to say.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:21 PM

Avalux (35,015 posts)

18. So you think people who haven't voted yet should be deprived of exposure to Bernie?

Whether you will admit it or not, Bernie does not have the name recognition of Hillary Clinton, so not everyone knows who he is. What usually happens after they hear him - they switch.

That's why Hillary and her supporters (like you), don't want another debate.

It's undemocratic.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:01 PM

LonePirate (12,555 posts)

32. Have people been living under a rock for the past three months?

People know who Bernie Sanders is. They may not be fully informed about his policy positions but almost all Dems and Dem leaning Independentsno now who he is and that he is running for President.

I'm all for more debates even if I am personally tired of them. Pretty much every Dem debate has been exactly like all of the other oneself have regard to the issues.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:23 PM

PragmaticLiberal (894 posts)

19. Whether you're right or not, two more debates were agreed upon.

I don't really care if one of them is in New York or not...they just need to be held.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:32 PM

angstlessk (11,862 posts)

20. It appears after each debate Bernie picks up more supporters

A NY debate??? Never...Hillary has much to loose, and Bernie has much to gain.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:35 PM

awake (3,226 posts)

21. Ya why get free prime time tv to present our Democrat issues and ideas on how to solve our problems

Just let the Republicans get the air time and we can just keep going along to get along.

I am so tired of the way the DNC keeps rolling over and letting the right set the agenda.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:40 PM

JudyM (24,651 posts)

22. I think this post is meaningless.

How many debates did Hillary get with BO? Any idea? Probably not.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:54 PM

riversedge (64,093 posts)

28. Why not do some reseach if you are interested?

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Response to riversedge (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:10 PM

JudyM (24,651 posts)

34. My question was rhetorical. They had far more debates.

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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:50 PM

TheDormouse (1,168 posts)

25. Most of the debates have been on subscription cable tv--not everyone has access nt

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #25)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:53 PM

riversedge (64,093 posts)

27. I think one was on npr? correct if wrong. Have any networks offered?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:52 PM

riversedge (64,093 posts)

26. I agree.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:57 PM

TheDormouse (1,168 posts)

29. How many of these debates have focused on New York regional issues?

We've had debates about the auto industry in Michigan and Ohio.
Debates about the Texas border.
Debate about the effect of climate change on Florida cities.

What about a debate on issues of specific interest to New Yorkers and others of that region?

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:57 PM

Sky Masterson (5,240 posts)

30. As a Political Junkie and a Sanders supporter

I want more.
I think Bernie has more to gain then Hillary does from it, so denying Bernie the Debate is a simple chess move.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:00 PM

Land of Enchantment (1,217 posts)

31. Awwww, c'mon. This is just now getting GOOD. Let's have two or three more debates and really

delve into the meat and bones of the issues. I want to hear more about Hillary's spiritual awakening concerning Citizen's United, the top $$$$$$ donors who comprise the rotting entrails that are corporate funded elections and maybe--just once---some mention of climate change and global warming.

We're just getting started!!!!!

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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:10 PM

TheDormouse (1,168 posts)

35. I think NY'ers deserve to hear where the candidates stand on fracking in NY State

and on whether the candidates support a greenhouse emissions/carbon tax.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:03 PM

Bluenorthwest (45,319 posts)

38. Your candidate disagrees, debate NY is on.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:08 PM

athena (4,187 posts)

39. What is there left to discuss?

The last two debates were almost exactly identical. If there is another debate, I probably won't watch it because I can't stand to see Sanders wave his hands in the air and shake his head the entire time Clinton is speaking. President Obama was a good enough politician to know not to do that.

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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:09 PM

Joe the Revelator (14,915 posts)

40. Then why did Hillary agree to debates in April and May?

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