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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:22 PM Mar 2016

STUNNING, they are doubling down



Wanna bet this guy has never, ever been to Hawaii? I am sure Hawaiians are going to love this tone deafness.

For those wondering why this is the campaign...

Ian Sams
@IanSams
I tweet about @HillaryClinton like it's my job because it is. Used to do it for @TheDemocrats & @SenatorCarper. Alabama football tweets are considered leisure.

And he finally deleted that horseshit

Ian Sams ‏@IanSams Mar 28
@ZaidJilani i did not tweet that. just pointed out it was 2.5% Black.
deleted it because i was wrong; HI is US's most diverse. can admit it.

Folks, I would say backlash against this horse shit has started.
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STUNNING, they are doubling down (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 OP
They don't care what Hawaiians think -- it's on to the next primary for them. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #1
Frankly they don't care about anyone. It's all about money, power and prestige for them. Millions of RKP5637 Mar 2016 #4
Bernie Is The Only Antidote For The Corrupt Nation Once Known As America cantbeserious Mar 2016 #26
He really is. He's the ONLY one I hear talking about helping the majority of Americans. He's the RKP5637 Mar 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Vilis Veritas Mar 2016 #167
^^^^^yes^^^^^^ nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #83
EFFing A MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #141
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #30
They do seem hell bent on pissing off Bernie supporters. reformist2 Mar 2016 #49
And they say they don't even need Bernie supporters to win in 2016. WTF is that all about. It RKP5637 Mar 2016 #63
Did that in 2011 but they keep telling me I am the one who does not like the party nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #68
It's become more overt JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #72
Yup, the problem is that things like this, tells me it won't be that simple nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #74
Wow, I missed that one Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #110
Jury left it 4-3 (i voted to leave to be able to link to it) JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #112
Oh goody, Fuddnik Mar 2016 #203
Yep, I don't like being taken for granted by the DNC/DWS/DLC/MIC/HRC! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #90
Staying Dem long enough vote for Bernie. Then changing to Indie. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #179
+1 casperthegm Mar 2016 #191
I'm hanging around until August. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #204
That wouldnt take much MFM008 Mar 2016 #181
.that^ 840high Mar 2016 #120
Hawaii is eden. The greatest part of Hawaii are the people. This gomer roguevalley Mar 2016 #47
California is 15% Asian. Prism Mar 2016 #54
Damn right she's hosed in the Bay Area. arcane1 Mar 2016 #62
I keep wondering if I'm living in a bubble Prism Mar 2016 #93
What support I am seeing w/friends elsewhere often hinges of that pragmatic approach arcane1 Mar 2016 #97
I know two Republican women who voted for her in the primary Oilwellian Mar 2016 #101
If she wins in 2016, she will have a hard time governing except for the uber wealthy, but I RKP5637 Mar 2016 #128
Yes but if she can convince blacks / latinos of this tall tale the primary will be over after PA. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #69
And many Latinos are as well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #73
Alaska Natives soundly rejected her, too. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #114
You can thank her campaign and supporters for that one Prism Mar 2016 #95
Indeed. My eyes were opened to this pernicious side of coalition politics recently JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #102
Hey--I heard you were gone...glad to be misinformed artislife Mar 2016 #150
That's awesome! Prism Mar 2016 #175
The MSM has about as much credibility as Baghdad Bob. Aerows Mar 2016 #64
Disagree nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #70
LOL! Aerows Mar 2016 #75
far less desmiller Mar 2016 #178
Hahaaa! I love that pic of AC - Saving!! jillan Mar 2016 #183
Bernie is right... Hawaii IS the most diverse state AikidoSoul Mar 2016 #185
We count enough for Jane Sanders to come here. mahina Mar 2016 #198
Blacks are not the only people of color awake Mar 2016 #2
Thank you! AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #5
Unfortunately that is the prevailing belief in this country gabeana Mar 2016 #48
And it's the ultimate display of white privilege to not only think it, intheflow Mar 2016 #135
I've seen that here more times than I can count. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #3
Some have, and I have run a story on this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #7
#Berniemademeahaole pugetres Mar 2016 #180
Wow wow wow. As I've said before the Hillary campaign only sees things in black & white. jillan Mar 2016 #6
And they talk about Bernie supporter's NWCorona Mar 2016 #8
I just ran a story on that nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #10
I think that's the moment in Star Trek when Commander Data tells Captain Picard... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #109
This is one of my favorite posts... artislife Mar 2016 #152
I HATE how HRC, her campaign, her surrogates, and her supporters twist things stillwaiting Mar 2016 #9
I have the feeling it will not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #11
Oh please...it ain't just HRC and her surrogates UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #12
Yep Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
Because they're evil!!1! daleanime Mar 2016 #44
What in the fresh hell does this have to do with what I posted? n/t UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #51
You will know them by their actions, if their actions are evil..... daleanime Mar 2016 #56
You are awfully angry about this having been here such a short time artislife Mar 2016 #153
I call BS on both sides UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #162
And thankfully, you are here now...finally....to do this. artislife Mar 2016 #163
No. They haven't. TDale313 Mar 2016 #165
+1000 so true senz Mar 2016 #24
Minorities are supporting her... scscholar Mar 2016 #82
They are also supporting him nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #87
"Minorities" include more people than blacks. jeff47 Mar 2016 #166
Minorities include more people than blacks, unless it's a discussion on DU. nt MadDAsHell Mar 2016 #194
and that's why this tone is PO's a lot of AA's PFunk1 Mar 2016 #174
not doing his employer any favors nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13
Nope nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #14
They worry about Bernie's Tone? This is truly Tone Deaf! Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #15
That is how I characterized it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #16
I know one Black person from Hawaii. He's just President of the United States though. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #17
I know a few more but that is not the point nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #18
Yeah, well, can you name another important one? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #20
Mahalo, Cheese Sandwich! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #81
Mic Drop :) Hydra Mar 2016 #148
And he's running from his tweet now NWCorona Mar 2016 #19
He should be happy nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #32
Nobody exploits race quite like the Clinton Crew. arcane1 Mar 2016 #21
To be honest there are no races nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #37
Precisely n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #45
thanks for this, nadin. when I think I can relax from the bs, this happens roguevalley Mar 2016 #50
As well as they use sexes and other things..... glinda Mar 2016 #184
Only the simpleminded think in black and white. senz Mar 2016 #22
Sanders is right: "Hawaii is clearly the most racially integrated state in the United States." Contrary1 Mar 2016 #23
God, how I love Hawaii. It's the Caribbean for Alaska. :D roguevalley Mar 2016 #52
QED? n/t Orsino Mar 2016 #188
Whatever was posted has disappeared Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #25
I've re-hosted it on a different server, in case nadin's is having problems Electric Monk Mar 2016 #31
For some people, the word "diverse" is the equivalent of "black". HubertHeaver Mar 2016 #119
Wow that's truly ignorant!! haikugal Mar 2016 #27
OK, it really looks like unless you are black the Clinton campaign thinks you are white. Obtuse! nt thereismore Mar 2016 #29
Or as some AA have put it... nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #35
I just... can't... thereismore Mar 2016 #60
So Asians and Pacific Islanders don't count? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #33
Which shows the total cluelessnes of SheilaT Mar 2016 #34
Or the city of San Diego, the city is 6.1 AA nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #36
And somewhat more to the point, SheilaT Mar 2016 #40
Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #43
They only care about diversity when it gets them more votes... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #41
Yep, concepts like "diversity" and "race" are simply campaigning tools, to be used. arcane1 Mar 2016 #58
exactly; they are using this strategy to try amborin Mar 2016 #104
There is no predominant race in Hawaii KauaiK Mar 2016 #38
Well since you are from Hawaii nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #42
That was a stupic tweet. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #39
What's his DU username? Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #46
LOL Mike__M Mar 2016 #94
He deleted that tweet because he admitted that he was wrong dana_b Mar 2016 #53
He got punded nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #55
thanks, nadin! dana_b Mar 2016 #61
One of these days the unwashed masses will be kicked off social media nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #66
maybe!! dana_b Mar 2016 #89
We know why he deleted the tweet, more interesting... JackRiddler Mar 2016 #99
lol... true dana_b Mar 2016 #100
His backpedal tweet is stupid... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #159
Of course... if you're not black, you must be white. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #57
Article: Diverse Doesn’t Count Unless It’s Black Wilms Mar 2016 #65
I ran one and embedded his tweet nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #67
Hillary's white campaign staff needs to change their tone in which 'diverse' is white people's code Wilms Mar 2016 #76
OUCH nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #77
Moo!!! cui bono Mar 2016 #140
Her reply is spot on Hydra Mar 2016 #151
Yes. And, yes! Wilms Mar 2016 #160
Maybe find a different site to link to (nt) TacoD Mar 2016 #91
Oh. Wow. I see. Wilms Mar 2016 #96
It would seem that Hawaii is the most diverse state in the union. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #71
And Alaska is fifth most diverse. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #117
So "diversity" is determined by the number of black people? nichomachus Mar 2016 #78
As I posted in the story nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #80
Big social justice issue in Hawaii is there? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #79
Actually this is more of the H... stupid shit that gets people laughing nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #85
Trump planning to build a wall around Hawaii? JoePhilly Mar 2016 #122
I lived in HI for 4 years nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #124
So no references or sources. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #125
Ah just like the tweet I referenced to nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #126
Well, if you referenced a tweet!!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #127
It is at the top nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #129
Its almost like I'm writing off southern states. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #131
Now we are quadrupling down nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #132
I really enjoy ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #134
Actually Silver today came courtesy of a Clinton campaign staffer nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #136
I'm having way too much fun right here. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #137
I agree, the lack of self awareness is just stunning nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #139
Don't worry ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #143
Stunningly funny nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #144
wow I did not know you lived in HI demtenjeep Mar 2016 #170
Next I know you will tell me that I was not married to an active service member nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #171
You may want to look at the poverty level for native Hawaiians artislife Mar 2016 #156
He was/is a staffer? I didn't know that but not surprising NWCorona Mar 2016 #145
I updated the OP nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #146
I was just thinking that lol NWCorona Mar 2016 #147
Yes! NWCorona Mar 2016 #115
Hawaii is tremendously diverse larkrake Mar 2016 #84
You know that, I know that, but our friend was educated on this nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #86
K&R dchill Mar 2016 #88
Says simpering white dweeb whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #92
Remember, this is after they voted. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #98
Is the world divided into solely White Devil and Black People? n/t JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #103
According to the experts on Planet Hillary, that's all there is here on Earth! Hydra Mar 2016 #155
Wow, the country is more than just Black and White people TheFarseer Mar 2016 #105
They have both colors cyberswede Mar 2016 #106
There is so much more to "diversity" than black/white, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #107
well, to some people Hawaii is part of Africa. roguevalley Mar 2016 #158
Kenya, to be exact. LOL. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #168
Wow! H2O Man Mar 2016 #108
The most tone deaf campaign since Dukakis Vote2016 Mar 2016 #111
A moment of Zen: demmiblue Mar 2016 #113
I bet the Sanders campaign had a good laugh Oilwellian Mar 2016 #116
I do not know about the Sanders campaign. I just found it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #118
Stunning and obtuse Oilwellian Mar 2016 #121
Me too, he was surprised by the reaction on the interwebs as well nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #123
Only people who self identify as "black" establish diversity? Who knew? merrily Mar 2016 #130
Let's clarify, only staffers who work for a campaign nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #133
That's offensive no matter what race/ethnicity you are. cui bono Mar 2016 #138
This is a campaign staffer nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #142
It's a clear example of their manipulations Oilwellian Mar 2016 #149
They are trying SO HARD to find ANY opportunity to label Sanders a clueless racist. arcane1 Mar 2016 #154
Ya, I have a real problem with that Hydra Mar 2016 #157
Hawaii is the only place I've been astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #161
i know nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #164
I do not care who the D is. I will vote BLUE in november demtenjeep Mar 2016 #169
We are still in the primary season, but thanks for playing. djean111 Mar 2016 #172
AMEN Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2016 #173
some diversity is more diverse than others AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #176
The Hillary camp PAYS so many people to Tweet for her CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #177
Is she going to apologize for what her surrogate said??!!1? jillan Mar 2016 #182
He isn't a surrogate. He's campaign staff. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2016 #205
Is there a reason why (especially on DU) "diverse" exclusively means "how many black people?" MadDAsHell Mar 2016 #186
That was a campaign staffer. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #187
Yes, I realize it wasn't a DUers words, but it might as well have been but it might as well have. MadDAsHell Mar 2016 #189
I know nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #190
So sick of this nonsense...it's racist bull noiretextatique Mar 2016 #192
Yes, yes it is racist bull nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #193
Black Berners and AAs for Bernie noiretextatique Apr 2016 #206
I hang out with some locally nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #207
That's what conservatives do when they're caught in a lie. Marr Mar 2016 #195
Or poltiical operatives nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #196
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha mahina Mar 2016 #197
My goodness, you went to school with that kid? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #199
Public school, before he went to Punahou. mahina Mar 2016 #200
Yup, last time we went visiting nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #201
Accuracy is not something strived for in the Hillary campaign, or her followers... revbones Mar 2016 #202

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
1. They don't care what Hawaiians think -- it's on to the next primary for them.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:24 PM
Mar 2016

They don't care about the Pacific Islanders in the rest of the primary states because they don't represent a substantial portion of the vote. This is political calculation. It's very ugly, but it is what the Clintons are known for.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
4. Frankly they don't care about anyone. It's all about money, power and prestige for them. Millions of
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

people they don't give a damn about unless they bring them money and votes. I have become so disillusioned with the Clinton's over the years.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
59. He really is. He's the ONLY one I hear talking about helping the majority of Americans. He's the
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

ONLY one that seems to have any FDR principles. The rest are all about entitlement for themselves and their cronies. I just don't get why many Americans can't grasp what is going on in this country. I've really concluded a lot of Americans are simply stupid, others brainwashed, and others stupid with religion.

Response to RKP5637 (Reply #59)

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
63. And they say they don't even need Bernie supporters to win in 2016. WTF is that all about. It
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

just demonstrates they want a severely divided democratic party. F, I'm ready to switch my registration to I, I'm so fed up with the DNC/DWS/DLC. They really don't represent me at all, And, apparently do not need me, and don't give a F about me or what I think.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
68. Did that in 2011 but they keep telling me I am the one who does not like the party
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

now they have to work to get my vote.



They hate that

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
72. It's become more overt
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

70 days. Remember.

Just 70 days until the Bernie supporters will all go home, wailing and gnashing their teeth, and Democratic Underground can return to the DEMOCRATS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110785516

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
203. Oh goody,
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:17 PM
Mar 2016

I found some more people to add to my ignore list, while sitting around gnashing my teeth.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
191. +1
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

That's what my wife and I did. Just registered as independents last week, after we voted the week before. Quite liberating. We'll never vote republican of course, but we feel less like sheep, expected to fall in line.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
204. I'm hanging around until August.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:21 PM
Mar 2016

We have a primary for Senate, Grayson vs Murphy (R). Gotta go with Grayson, then I'm gone again.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
47. Hawaii is eden. The greatest part of Hawaii are the people. This gomer
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

hasn't got a damned clue. By the way, Alaska is more diverse than 44 other states. Since when did only AA's constitute minorities? We have a huge native population here and they said the same thing.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
54. California is 15% Asian.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

So the Clintonian tactic that Pacific Islanders and Asians don't count as "real" minorities is certainly an interesting one.

She's hosed in the Bay Area. Absolutely going to get reamed here.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
62. Damn right she's hosed in the Bay Area.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:05 PM
Mar 2016

I have exactly ONE friend here who was supporting her, and he has recently changed his mind and is supporting Bernie now.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
93. I keep wondering if I'm living in a bubble
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:35 PM
Mar 2016

Probably, but I can't find a single person in my social circle who likes or wants her. I've heard a few, "Well, she's electable . . ." mutterings.

It's really strange, too, because everyone in 2008 was so pro-Hillary. Especially Berkeleyites. Now, everyone is all Sanders all the time.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
97. What support I am seeing w/friends elsewhere often hinges of that pragmatic approach
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:41 PM
Mar 2016

"I prefer Sanders but only Clinton can win" kind of thing.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
101. I know two Republican women who voted for her in the primary
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

Don't know any fellow Dems who did. Perhaps that's why she thinks she can win without the liberal base. I do have a bit of news for her with that thought, 98% of the Repubs I know absolutely despise her.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
128. If she wins in 2016, she will have a hard time governing except for the uber wealthy, but I
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:12 PM
Mar 2016

guess that is all the US represents anymore. She will have a tough time debating Trump. He will call BS on just about everything she says. The only good road for the US ahead is with Bernie.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
69. Yes but if she can convince blacks / latinos of this tall tale the primary will be over after PA.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

I think that must be her calculation.

It's interesting to hear that Asians in CA are rejecting her; I would not have expected that (and in fact thought the reverse before this weekend)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
73. And many Latinos are as well
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

that must be ahem difficult to understand for a campaign that treats all minorities like lego blocks.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
95. You can thank her campaign and supporters for that one
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

It has not been lost on the Asian community that her campaign - and especially her supporters - have been basically calling Asians a bunch of jumped up white people as part of their cringeworthy SJW initiative.

Not only in this campaign, but in other local initiatives regarding college acceptance, affirmative action, and other issues. "Asians don't count!" is a common refrain in some real rotten quarters of Democratic politics when politicians want to pander to Latinos or African Americans, and that sentiment is definitely seeping in and leaving its stain over time.

Republicans may be the racist party, but damn if the regressive part of our party aren't trying to outdo them in sewing racial divisions within the party.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
102. Indeed. My eyes were opened to this pernicious side of coalition politics recently
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016

with the AALF's amicus brief to the Fisher vs. UTexas decision. There were shocking and shameful things I learned in that one.

Really, we should call them identity wedge politics rather than coalition politics because it is not about forming coalitions but exploiting useful ones.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
150. Hey--I heard you were gone...glad to be misinformed
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:39 PM
Mar 2016

For once! It usually pisses me off when they do that.


Up herein WA, you would have loved my Bernie supporters in my precinct. One Tibetan, one Latina, one Japanese American, two Muslim Pakistanis, an Aussie and two disable caucus goers mixed in with a wide range of White voters in age and gender. The Naturalized citizens were serious about this caucus. The Tibetan woman watched the Precinct captain like a hawk. Good thing, we found her whispering to the secretary (hill supporter) about the one woman who switched from Hill to Bernie...which actually changed the delegate count from being even to 3/1 in our favor.

The rest of the country doesn't get that our vista looks to the Pacific and all the people that a way. No AAs, but Hills side also had no minorities, and one girl under 45.

Can't wait to see how California shakes out.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
175. That's awesome!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

Naw, I wasn't gone too, too long. Flagged for a handful of days because of two rapid hides, then jumped across country to spend time with the family for the holiday. Plus, it's hard to read here. The dishonesty, the nasty racial politics, and this week the faux feminism and hilarious stabs at tone policing while trying to objectify and slut shame Susan Sarandon. This is supposed to be a site for liberals, yeah?

It's really interesting how deep the Sanders support goes in my circle. My friends are mostly Asian, Latino, and African American, and they're all very invested in Bernie (and pissed as hell about the racial politics coming out of the Clinton campaign. Flatly put, they feel exploited and used (or ignored as far as my Asian friends and boyfriend are concerned)).

While at home, everyone was for Bernie. My strong union father and brother love him. My feminist mom said, "Finally, someone I like!" My Mexican sister-in-law really can't stand Clinton - she actually paid attention to Hillary's meddling in Latin America and attitude towards migrant children. (Amusing side note: her brother and his husband were visiting from Mexico, and their response to politics was, "Bernie, yes, but for the sake of all that is holy, JUST NOT TRUMP!&quot .

I know I must live in the bubble, given polls and primary results, but it's just so odd I never hear Clinton support from anywhere but online and a little bit at work. It's feeling a bit like a Nixon election in that way. Eerie and a bit of a downer.

But, eh, it's not entirely over yet =)

AikidoSoul

(2,150 posts)
185. Bernie is right... Hawaii IS the most diverse state
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120431126

"Hawaii has the highest racial minority population of any state in the union — 75 percent, according to U.S. census figures. John Osorio, professor of Hawaiian studies at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, tells host Liane Hansen that the state's history is a story of accommodation as waves of foreigners flowed through the islands — and never left.

"First Europeans and then Americans and then Asians" arrived, Osorio says, many of them as contract labor during the 19th century. "

mahina

(20,645 posts)
198. We count enough for Jane Sanders to come here.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:58 PM
Mar 2016

I read you though, time is a finite thing and you have to work it.

gabeana

(3,170 posts)
48. Unfortunately that is the prevailing belief in this country
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

Did you see Chris Rock Academy Awards
he only complained about lack of Black Actors not one word regarding Asian, Native American, Latino except to stereotyoe Asian children

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
135. And it's the ultimate display of white privilege to not only think it,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:30 PM
Mar 2016

but to say it publicly.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
3. I've seen that here more times than I can count.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

Maybe Hawiians need to start using the #Berniemademewhite hashtag.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. I just ran a story on that
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

because it had to, First half explains why the media seemed off the job on Saturday with the returns.

But the second went into this aspect. The anger I detect on social media is real. I suspect it will affect voting.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
109. I think that's the moment in Star Trek when Commander Data tells Captain Picard...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

...that he has created an android child, his own child, and Picard is telling Data he should have thought of the heavy responsibilities of parenthood FIRST, and should have consulted Picard before he did it, and Data replies, "Do humans ask your permission to conceive a child?"

Picard then buries his face in his hands, thinking of the complications to come, and not having an answer to Data's pristine logic--thence to one of the best episodes in Star Trek, about the human rights of all sentient beings.

Do recall from history that, at one time, most Europeans considered Africans and Native Americans, in particular, to be sub-human. Literally sub-human. Not fully human. Not entitled to human rights. Gene Roddenberry and Star Trek created many stories that attacked this persistent European prejudice--a prejudice that led to horrendous genocide and enslavement in the real world--and were highly successful, including artistically, in helping to educate young and old on this critically important historical truth and its persistent consequences.

Commander Data, with his perfect logic, and being a minority of one (a minority of two, while his daughter lived) would ask Clinton supporters and the Corrupt Media: Are not Pacific Islanders a minority in the USA? Are not Indigenous Alaskans a minority? Are not Asians a minority? Are not Latinos and African-Americans in the state of Washington minorities? Is Hawaii not a majority minority state? Did these minorities not ALSO vote in 70% to 80% percentages for Bernie Sanders, who is also a member of the class of minorities?

Data would vote for Bernie Sanders for President of the Federation, for sure. It's the logical choice. Don't know about Picard. (So emotional--but yeah, probably he would.)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
152. This is one of my favorite posts...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:43 PM
Mar 2016

I love how you tied in the SNG episode (they were great ones) in with what people really think now. They don't get that they don't see the whole picture, they are busy patting themselves on the back for finally seeing black.

There is a whole lot of diversity in brown and yellow, that they have failed to realize.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
9. I HATE how HRC, her campaign, her surrogates, and her supporters twist things
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

to divide us on racial grounds. They've really done an excellent job of creating some division and animosity between some white and black Democrats this Primary season. They are always looking for GOTCHA moments where they can make an issue out of something which helps keep the focus off just how horrible HRC is on the issues when compared to Bernie (their histories and their current positions).

It's a fucking disgrace, and it just might be rewarded.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
12. Oh please...it ain't just HRC and her surrogates
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

Plenty of Sanders supporters have also done a good job of creating division and animosity around race by dismissing Southern Black votes as not meaning much because they won't go blue in November. Don't even act like there isn't blame to go around and Bernie supporters shit don't stink either.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
44. Because they're evil!!1!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:48 PM
Mar 2016

Trying to force health care and education upon people, how dare they.




Just in case.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
153. You are awfully angry about this having been here such a short time
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

deep breaths, month two will be harder.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
162. I call BS on both sides
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:03 PM
Mar 2016

Both sides have used race in a way to divide. Its disgusting.

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
165. No. They haven't.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

The Clintons divided us by race in 08 and they're doing it again. There may be some bad actors on the Bernie side- but dividing us by race and gender and playing us against each other is an actual Clinton campaign strategy and it's just fucking wrong.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
87. They are also supporting him
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:27 PM
Mar 2016

and they are getting erased by her campaign. Yes it is divisive and it is horseshit

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
166. "Minorities" include more people than blacks.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:34 PM
Mar 2016

She's not doing particularly well among some other minority groups.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
174. and that's why this tone is PO's a lot of AA's
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:21 PM
Mar 2016

Or at least the ones I know. They see this divide and conquer BS as the same thing she used against Obama years back.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
17. I know one Black person from Hawaii. He's just President of the United States though.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:34 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing significant.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
19. And he's running from his tweet now
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:35 PM
Mar 2016

I was getting ready to call him out but it's tweet after tweet of "I was wrong "

I'm glad you caught it in time!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
21. Nobody exploits race quite like the Clinton Crew.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

Who knew there were only two races on Earth? News to me

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
37. To be honest there are no races
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

but the fact they are using it this way is well horseshit

glinda

(14,807 posts)
184. As well as they use sexes and other things.....
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

it is sort of a "usery" campaign their Team is running. Pretty sad. Cannot see how that is better than pitting angry "whites" against people of color or immigrants. Falling down that rabbit hole does not serve the interests of helping the Country.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. Only the simpleminded think in black and white.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

The spectrum of humanity is broad and multifaceted.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
23. Sanders is right: "Hawaii is clearly the most racially integrated state in the United States."
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:37 PM
Mar 2016

"...Then, who are the people of Hawaii? As of the 2010 U.S. Census, there were 1,360,301 people living in Hawaii.

Of those people, 24.7% were Caucasian, 14.5% were of Filipino descent, 13.6% were of Japanese descent, 8.9% were of Hispanic or Latino descent, 5.9% were of Hawaiian descent and 4.0% were of Chinese descent. Interestingly, 23.6% of the population identified themselves as belonging to two or more races, up 2% from the 2000 census.

Of those people who identify themselves as belonging totally of one race alone or in combination with one or more other races, 57.4% are in whole or partially Asian, 41.5% in whole or partially Caucasian and 26.2% in whole or partially Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander."

http://gohawaii.about.com/cs/culture/a/hawaiian_people_2.htm

HubertHeaver

(2,539 posts)
119. For some people, the word "diverse" is the equivalent of "black".
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016

They lack a dictionary or, at least, the ability to use one.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
29. OK, it really looks like unless you are black the Clinton campaign thinks you are white. Obtuse! nt
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:41 PM
Mar 2016
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. Or as some AA have put it...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:44 PM
Mar 2016

Zaid Jilani
‏@ZaidJilani
This election I learned that black voters over the age of 45 in the deep south were the only racial minorities #BernieMadeMeWhite

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
34. Which shows the total cluelessnes of
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:44 PM
Mar 2016

too many Hillary supporters. The only "diversity" they even know of is Black.

I'm gonna guess this guy has never been to New Mexico, either. It's only 2.5% Black, so I guess it's not at all diverse. But nearly 30% identify as Hispanic, and over 10% are Native American. And there's a smattering, less than 2% Asian.

Diversity doesn't mean quite what they think it means.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. Or the city of San Diego, the city is 6.1 AA
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

the County is 5.9, so 6 percent for round numbers.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
40. And somewhat more to the point,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

while some states resemble each other, especially ones geographically close, each one is still unique in its own way.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
41. They only care about diversity when it gets them more votes...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

Once they're done they'll leave them hanging out to dry.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
58. Yep, concepts like "diversity" and "race" are simply campaigning tools, to be used.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

Just another buzz-word that people don't think past.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
104. exactly; they are using this strategy to try
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:19 PM
Mar 2016

to ridicule Bernie's agenda; using new new left against the new left

KauaiK

(544 posts)
38. There is no predominant race in Hawaii
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

This guy is ignorant. Better to keep ones mouth shut if you don't know the subject on which you comment!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. Well since you are from Hawaii
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:47 PM
Mar 2016

there is a word that applies here, and it starts with an H... and I will leave it at that.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
53. He deleted that tweet because he admitted that he was wrong
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:56 PM
Mar 2016

and that HI is the most diverse state in the U.S.

Ian Sams ‏@IanSams Mar 28
@ZaidJilani i did not tweet that. just pointed out it was 2.5% Black.
deleted it because i was wrong; HI is US's most diverse. can admit it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
55. He got punded
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

will dutifully update the story.

By the way, this is way, this is what effective backlash looks like

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
61. thanks, nadin!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

and you're right!

Another example: Barbra Streisand (big Hillary supporter) tweeted:
Barbra Streisand ‏@BarbraStreisand Mar 28
What's the issue about Secretary @HillaryClinton getting $225k a speech
when Pres Bush 41/43 got $1m/Trump $1.25m. OK for men but not women?

Susan Sarandon tweeted back and now others are informing Ms. Streisand about the big too-do over it.
I love twitter! lol...

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
99. We know why he deleted the tweet, more interesting...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

is why he would post such a thing in the first place.

(And he deleted the tweet, strictly speaking, because SOME PEOPLE CAN READ.)

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
159. His backpedal tweet is stupid...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:58 PM
Mar 2016

...it starts with "i did not tweet that." WTF? Sounds like that crow was sticking in his craw.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
65. Article: Diverse Doesn’t Count Unless It’s Black
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016
Ian Sams,the Hillary employee who Tweeted it, has taken the original message down, but the point is that Hawaii actually is diverse–not only are whites a minority, as they always have been on the island, but there is no single racial majority at all.

http://www.vdare.com/posts/diverse-doesnt-count-unless-its-black
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
76. Hillary's white campaign staff needs to change their tone in which 'diverse' is white people's code
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:17 PM
Mar 2016
https://twitter.com/samhwils/status/714623874839814144

Despite the sunglasses/Blackberry pose fronted for cool, HRC and Co. seem to have little grip on how social media works.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
77. OUCH
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

and I agree, but it is not just the staff. I shall not say any more... or I will get in trouble.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
151. Her reply is spot on
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

Is Hillary planning to still be running at the time of the convention? It seems like she and her team are burning everything down around them.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
160. Yes. And, yes!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:59 PM
Mar 2016

They must be so insulated as not to realize. And it's that insularity...the mark of many things "Clinton"...I really do not want near the White House.

I hope the Sanders administration will keep close tabs on the Clinton Global Initiative initiatives.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
96. Oh. Wow. I see.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:40 PM
Mar 2016

That said. The commentary stands. And I did find the "Samantha" Tweet there.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
78. So "diversity" is determined by the number of black people?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

Only in Hillaryworld. By that measure, Jamaica would be very diverse. The Clinton Camp is really stretching. Pretty soon an indictment will become a "qualification."

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
80. As I posted in the story
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

and I said here the other day.

If CA goes Sanders, we will become a white rural state, with high mountains. The only true part of the statement will be the mountains. Though rural, I suppose some of our counties are very rural

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
85. Actually this is more of the H... stupid shit that gets people laughing
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

I guess our friend did not enjoy being the laughing stock though... And if he was a supporter, ok whatever, this is a staffer. It reveals the attitude we all have been pointing to Brah

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
122. Trump planning to build a wall around Hawaii?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:04 PM
Mar 2016

Is is common there for POC to be harassed by white police officers?

Maybe these things are common and I have to heard about it.

But you, with your vast experience, certainly have some sources you could reference.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
124. I lived in HI for 4 years
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

and yup, the H word is increasingly coming to mind here.

It is stunning. Don't ask me what that word is... those who know HI, or have lived long enough will be able to figure it out.

On edit you are doubling down too, which is not stunning.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
129. It is at the top
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:12 PM
Mar 2016

the fact that you cannot tell diversity, like the campaign staffer is ahem, telling

I am sorry, but at this point this is damn fracking hilarious.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
134. I really enjoy ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:19 PM
Mar 2016

... watching you ride around on your high horse ... and apparently, after all this time, you still haven't figured that out yet.

Talk about lacking of self-awareness.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
136. Actually Silver today came courtesy of a Clinton campaign staffer
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

isn't he a beautiful horse? Now I am going to be nice, lend it to you, and URGE YOU to go post this bullshit on twitter. I need the entertainment.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
139. I agree, the lack of self awareness is just stunning
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:40 PM
Mar 2016

but funny

Keep on pissing on minorities

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
171. Next I know you will tell me that I was not married to an active service member
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

during 911 who was deployed during a Western Pacific Deployment.

Hell, I started posting on DU from Military Housing near Hickam AF Base as well as the Arizona Memorial, and Navy Sub Base, and Navy Base Hawaii

But this is what bullies do.They try to needle people...

You are adorable, especially since I have posted on where I was when 911 happened here a few times, and that my sister called me from San Diego, which was way early for us. Connie was sleeping on the dresser, her cute head peeking out. It was ARE YOU WATCHING TV? Nope, it is way too early... but I was up instantly, I could hear the panic in her voice.

Ah the knowledge that they deployed in peacetime and now we were a country at war is something I don't expect you to ever understand. And to be brutally honest I hope you never do.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
156. You may want to look at the poverty level for native Hawaiians
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

and you will discover a pattern that seems to be rampant in minority areas.

Jeez, read the first one hundred pages after the stuff about the land in the book Hawaii for a simplistic version of the colonization of a peaceful brown population.

Are we sure he isn't the original tweeter?

smh

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
146. I updated the OP
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

yup, he works for the campaign. Low enough I suspect though that this stupid foot in mouth might cost him a job.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
84. Hawaii is tremendously diverse
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:23 PM
Mar 2016

It may be 3% black, but it is full of all kinds of asians, samoans, aussies, islanders, whites, russians, slavics, many europeans, and even more mixed bloods. Diversity is not just skin color.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
98. Remember, this is after they voted.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

Before, I'm sure HI would have been diverse, magical, virtuous, all that. But now that they went the wrong way? It's fuck'em until October.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
155. According to the experts on Planet Hillary, that's all there is here on Earth!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:51 PM
Mar 2016

Of course, it might be really hard to see the differences from the top of that ivory tower...

TheFarseer

(9,770 posts)
105. Wow, the country is more than just Black and White people
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Asians and Pacific Islanders don't count? As if Hawaii is just White people going to Starbucks.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
107. There is so much more to "diversity" than black/white,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

and I'm glad those binary thinkers are being schooled.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
118. I do not know about the Sanders campaign. I just found it
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016

stunning And this is not just some random supporter on the interwebs.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
123. Me too, he was surprised by the reaction on the interwebs as well
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

and at this point, none should

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
133. Let's clarify, only staffers who work for a campaign
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:17 PM
Mar 2016

who are white, get to tell the rest of us what is diverse.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
138. That's offensive no matter what race/ethnicity you are.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

The way the Hillary supporters like to talk about groups of people as if they were not human beings and turn racial injustice into a political football is saddening.

.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
149. It's a clear example of their manipulations
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

Usually they're more covert in their attempts to divide us. This one screamed though only because Ian Sams doesn't have a clue about what diversity is. I'll bet he doesn't see it quite the same way again and am glad to see people becoming more aware of these tricksters. It just keeps peeling off the votes and that's a good thing.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
154. They are trying SO HARD to find ANY opportunity to label Sanders a clueless racist.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:46 PM
Mar 2016

Non-white people, and victims of actual racism, are just mere strategies to be employed to score a few more votes.

This idiot wasn't "wrong" about the percentage of black people in Hawaii. He was simply trying too hard to perpetuate the "Her opponent is anti-black" narrative. He made it too stupid and obvious.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
157. Ya, I have a real problem with that
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:57 PM
Mar 2016

They don't even pretend to be supporting the issues of the various groups they are using as human shields in their campaign. Or "firewalls" to use their term.

What kind of monster have infested our party? I expect this kind of crap from the nastiest of the GOP, not the party of the people.

astrophuss42

(290 posts)
161. Hawaii is the only place I've been
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:01 PM
Mar 2016

Where I've been on a bus with my other half and we were the only white people on it.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
169. I do not care who the D is. I will vote BLUE in november
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:52 PM
Mar 2016

No way in Hell would I ever give idiot 1 or idiot 2 any chance to become president



I have my preference but I refuse to let that enable an idiot repuke presidency


I suggest we all think about that

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
172. We are still in the primary season, but thanks for playing.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:17 PM
Mar 2016

And, since this exact exhortation is posted, in one form after another, 24 hours a day here at DU, no need to tell the rest of us what to think.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,961 posts)
173. AMEN
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:19 PM
Mar 2016

In 2008, I supported HRC in the primaries. I subsequently enthusiastically supported Barack Obama in two GEs.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
177. The Hillary camp PAYS so many people to Tweet for her
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:29 AM
Mar 2016

It is revolting. It's also disingenuous. It's not organic support from real supporters like Bernie has.

So many of them Tweet and re-Tweet and then those Tweets are re-tweeted and passed along to other members of her digital-rapid-response team installed all over the Internet.

Most of them are paid and they communicate amongst each other, Tweeting and re-Tweeting for Hillary--attempting to help her make some sort of impact on social media. But they're all being paid.

Their Twitter feeds are all gummed up with Tweets from each other. It's like watching rats in an enclosed cage, dining on their own feces.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
182. Is she going to apologize for what her surrogate said??!!1?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:39 AM
Mar 2016


Of course not, and neither is Bernie for what his supporter said.
 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
186. Is there a reason why (especially on DU) "diverse" exclusively means "how many black people?"
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016


Not only does diverse mean ALL races, but it goes beyond race.
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
187. That was a campaign staffer.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016

So I would ask well...the campaign.

Personally I am getting beyond tired of that shit.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
189. Yes, I realize it wasn't a DUers words, but it might as well have been but it might as well have.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

I've lurked here for 15 years and almost without exception, discussions about needing diversity seem to focus almost entirely on whether a satisfactory number of African-Americans were included/invited or participated.

No LGBTQ, not gender, not economic status, not place of origin or nationality.

Skin hue.

I didn't use to believe in "white guilt" but more and more I think there's something to it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
190. I know
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:28 PM
Mar 2016

It was hysterical when a poster here told me a Sanders event we covered was not diverse. It was pointed to him that many of those folks were Hispanic. Then the LGBT couples I know from working in the field, I could go on. Nope, it wasn't. That is when they were just starting with this shit. I think it is starting to seriously backfire though. And they do not get why either.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
192. So sick of this nonsense...it's racist bull
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

As if other POC don't count, and as if no black people are voting for Bernie. My cousin is a die-hard blue voter, but admits she doesn't like Hillary. If she thought Bernie had a chance, she would vote for him. That's a constant theme in my circle of friends and relatives who are black. They are not enthusiastic about Clinton, but they are adamantly against Republicans and believe she has the best chance of winning. I just keep providing information.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
193. Yes, yes it is racist bull
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

I think we are starting to see backlash though. The little dears can't understand why though

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
206. Black Berners and AAs for Bernie
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

Have truly opened my eyes. The AA forum dominates here, but I truly found some black soulmates on facebook.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
207. I hang out with some locally
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

Ok hang out us not quite the word. But the younger community leaders are Bernie supporters. Their seniors are not. The dynamic is quite interesting. They opened my eyes as to divisions. It is not just age, but social class.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
197. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:57 PM
Mar 2016

Gasp

Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


Oh my goodness. Lolos. What a crackup.

Good for him for recognizing.

Growing up here, in elementary school, my classmates were Hawaiian, Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Portugese, and haole. If we even thought about it. There was one black kid on the playground who was nice but he was a little kid.

Grew up to be the President.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
199. My goodness, you went to school with that kid?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:04 PM
Mar 2016

must be fun to see class albums



And I was told by a few Hawaiians that Haole is not precisely a nice word. But it is a crackup when tourist buy the ever so popular "I am a Haole" hat, T-Shrt, what have you. Methinks this guy would wear it with well... pride.

mahina

(20,645 posts)
200. Public school, before he went to Punahou.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

Haole isn't an unkind word, unless preceded by 'fucking', which has to be earned. And so often is.


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
201. Yup, last time we went visiting
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:12 PM
Mar 2016

we saw that at the swap meet at the Stadium. Oh we started to crack up. Tourists had that puzzled look in their faces. Locals had smiles from ear to ear. Should we send this guy one of those? I vote for the hat.

Hey where else to buy Hawaiian shirts? Do that at the tourist traps (like Waikiki)? You nuts or what?

We should go visit family to Maui soon.

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