2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRemember when saint ronald passed away in 2004?
Remember how the republicans took that as a "win one for the gipper" signal call to win/steal the election for george w turdhead?
Today, George McGovern died. He was a man of compassion principle, intelligence, vision, wit and (as I had the good fortune to witness personally twice during the 1972 campign) charm.
In 1972, I was 16 during the primaries and 17 during the general election. I worked my rump off for Senator McGovern, first in the PA primary, than in the NJ primary and finally in the NY primary. I met him in April a couple of weeks before PA. He spoke to me, my father and step mother and my brother and sister. I met him again at a campaign stop in Queens shortly before the NY primary. To my shock and joy, he remembered me and asked about my famly. Mrs. McGovern asked where my button was and gave me one of hers when I said that I'd given mine to someone else. I was at a HUGE Party at his campaign's hotel ballroom as the returns came in that essentially assured him of the nomination.
I wore the button that Mrs. McGovern gave me for YEARS after the campaign.
My point of writing this is this. If the republicans were able to use the death of a pretty bad president who was as senile as can be as a motivation to get a second term for an idiotic president who made reagan look like a genius (leaving aside the fact that the reagans and bushes HATE each other), than why can't WE use the death of a man who was unfairly ridiculed for so many things that he was proven right about as a motivation to make a damned good President a second term President against a man who is quite possibly an even worse person than either saint ronald or george w turdhead?
In my opinion, I believe that the souls of Senator George and Mrs. McGovern would look down from Heaven and smile.
That's my 2 rather emotional cents, and quite possibly overpriced at that!
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RKP5637
(67,101 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
rgbecker
(4,823 posts)I was raised by a Goldwater republican, and my first time voting went for Nixon in 1968. I was converted by McGovern and have been voting liberal/progressive ever since.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)Both my dad and I were members of Senator McGovern's "Million Member Club".
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EV_Ares
(6,587 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Man, I'm impressed. I didn't know what a Primary was when I was your age. And we're obviously both the same age. I was 16 in 1972. McGovern had a real impact on me. I knew a good human when I heard one.
It's up to us. That's why the internet is crucial.
It's easy to lose sight of optimism. People are really crazy these days. These are not easy times. But then, were times ever easy or good? I spend a lot of time in disgust, and without optimism, and then along comes some surprise that gives me hope.
I've been listening to the classic jazz artists lately. It's so odd to see these guys on stage knowing that they couldn't even vote. That was hardly a blink of an eye in the great span of human history.
It seems to me that as rapidly as things are deteriorating, they are also improving. It's a really strange time.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...we consider who got voted off of "Survivor" or whoCharlie Sheen is screwing as actual news. Otherwise, you're right. WE have to be the media.
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Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)Bush was his natural inheritor. And Palin was Bush's. But it didn't turn out that way!
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...wants romney to lose as badly as they wanted dole to lose in 1996. They want jebby to ascend in 2016.
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Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)but a day is a long time in politics. And four years is 1461 of them.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...when have the bushes EVER put country or party before their family's potential gain?
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Turbineguy
(37,312 posts)a strange new departure.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!
brooklynite
(94,482 posts)...and to be blunt, George McGovern has virtually no cachet as a rallying cry for most Democrats.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...and I do remember "win one for the gipper" as a rallying cry for some republicans.
George McGovern wouldn't be a rallying cry for many democrats. Partially because of the time that's passsed, partly due to the bitter divisions of the party that year and the margins of his loss.
However, I do remember seing a lot of goldwater posters being brandished by republicans during the 1984 campaign. It'd be nice to see some connection between an Obama victory and the memories that some of us 1972 "McGovernites" hold onto.
A;so, I DID say that my 2 cents may be overpriced!
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brooklynite
(94,482 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)needing to be rallied for Obama and against willard. That wasn't my point, but there's a reason that cheerleader perform for the entire game.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)about the mental health/shock treatments. If he were, while I doubt he would have won--I think the election would have been closer than it was.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)...the McGovern campaign WAS horrible. You know it's bad when the high water mark of a campaign is when your candidate "closes" to 28 points behind!
I met Tom Eagleton around 1976. He saw me still wearing the McGovern button that Eleanor McGovern had given me. He didn't look pleased.
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ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)PEACE!