2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumYes, Susan Sarandon is guilty of blind privilege
In addition to, you know, risking World War III, allowing Trump to become president would damage the economy and international relations to the point of embarrassing the United States on the world stage, while bankrupting millions, and killing tens of thousands more. Before Obamacare, which Trump would repeal, Harvard determined that there were as many deaths from a lack of health insurance as there were on 9/11 every month. Trump will take us back to that. Likewise, millions of minorities in America, be they Muslim or Mexican, could be rounded up and treated like prisoners. Yes, maybe thered be a revolution at the tail end of this hellscape, but (1) we dont know for sure, and (2) what sorts of madness would have to take place to get there.
The alternative is electing a competent Democrat who would at least maintain and in some cases improve upon the progress thats been made so far, allowing another chance at this so-called revolution on another day without destroying everything in the process.
Will Susan Sarandon be personally impacted by any of this? Perhaps a little maybe but nowhere near as badly as the families whose sons and daughters will be marched off to a Trump war to defend the integrity of his stupid combover. Sarandon likely wont lose her health insurance and be bankrupted due to obscene medical bills. Sarandon might not realize that millions of Americans with health insurance under Obama have received it due to the Medicaid expansion. So much for the bottom 90 percent that Bernie talks about at his rallies. And what about access to affordable abortion services, which would continue to be eroded under Trump? So much for that.
Sarandon has millions of dollars between her and poverty. Shes the one percent, and perhaps thats why shes not troubled by the idea of using poor and middle class workers as human shields in her plan to get to achieve a revolution.
Beyond Sarandons rant, reality mandates that anyone whos politically left-of-center needs to vote with the bigger picture in mind. A hundred years ago, when the parties were more interchangeable and compromise was an accepted part of the game, voting ones conscience was fine. Today, allowing a Republican extremist like Trump or Cruz to win the presidency by refusing to vote or by casting a protest vote is objectively reckless. It shows a total disregard for the millions of Americans who would be literally destroyed by a GOP president. Your personal political agenda is not nearly as crucial as helping to maintain an electoral bulwark against an apocalyptic Republican victory, and the only way to achieve this is by voting for the Democratic nominee. Even Republican voters have a responsibility to make sure Trump, in particular, isnt even allowed to take the White House tour much less occupy the Oval Office next January.
The stakes are too high, and throwing a temper tantrum at the polls will only bring about the worst case scenario. Nothing more.
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/30/yes_susan_sarandon_is_guilty_of_blind_privilege_why_her_comments_about_trump_the_revolution_are_so_wrong/
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)eom
Baobab
(4,667 posts)People are unable to afford to actually use it, and the number of people who have chronic illnesses and still cannot afford care is still astronomical.
>"Before Obamacare, which Trump would repeal, Harvard determined that there were as many deaths from a lack of health insurance as there were on 9/11 every month."
Additionally, we're spending enough right now to just dump it and switch to single payer and get no tiers for free.
See:
American Public Health Association - The Current and Projected Taxpayer Shares of US Health Costs
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)The sooner ya'll get that the sooner you will stop bleeding members of the party.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)She is financially secure and therefore can afford to be so flip about the political system.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I know a few people who consider the obstacles of searching for braile not to be privilege.
Meteor Man
(385 posts)Susan Sarandon and every left of center Democrat is required to vote for Hillary, because the stakes are too high.
Oh yeah, snark alert! Reality mandates that everybody votes for Hillary because she is a competent Democrat. Trump will march our sons and daughters off to war to defend his comb over, while Hillary will march them off to war to die for glorious regime change.
Because the Democratic party never fails, it can only be failed. Got it!
RandySF
(58,800 posts)Meteor Man
(385 posts)It's not easy having a rational conversation around here, is it?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It's sad, really.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)So there's that.
RandySF
(58,800 posts)PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)that is in need of so many repairs that it may be better to just send it to the wrecking yard.
Or, should I just keep driving it until it ends up possibly harming myself or other drivers on the road? I think I will go for the better quality vehicle. I will go for Bernie.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
Dem2
(8,168 posts)That's the limit to my caring about her though.
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)and compromise was an accepted part of the game, voting ones conscience was fine."
It's still fine, as far as I'm concerned.
alittlelark
(18,890 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,957 posts)Or basically one of convenience.