Backlash... to the type of campaign being run

[nadinbrzezinski]

I am starting to come across an increasing number of these pieces, (and don't get me started on the twitter)... but I suspect people are tired of the campaign. The kids in particular are far from impressed. (and they need to come out and well... vote, and more are doing it, but I digress)

This is from a young blogger. I present this as well, the backlash I am starting to see...For the record, many a times we have run audio and video in news stories of people with no voice, including youth, so that is partly what I am doing. I am not to debate whether he is right or not. I have seen the backlash starting though.

Mar 25 Privilege Is What Allows Clinton Supporters to Keep Supporting Her

When the overwhelming preference among young people for Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton first became apparent, old-school feminists like Madeleine Albright were quick to vote-shame younger women for abandoning the cause of feminism.

Now come the concerned citizens preemptively scolding supporters of Sanders who might be tempted to stay home if Clinton is on the ballot in November. We’re told that we have a moral duty to vote for Clinton, that we are sexist if we dislike her, and that a refusal to vote for her would be an act of privilege because vulnerable people will be hurt if Trump wins.

Well. Let’s talk about privilege and vulnerable people for a minute.

There’s no question that a Trump win would be a disaster. It would give a vain, unstable, and completely unqualified man great power and fan the flames of racism, violence, and xenophobia.

But if you are helping Hillary Clinton win the nomination, please don’t talk to me about privilege. Because you are choosing, right now, in this moment, to support a candidate who is deeply disliked by independents, has historically bad favorability ratings, is under investigation by both the FBI and the NSA, and is running much worse in head-to-head polls with the Republicans than Bernie Sanders.

http://noiwillnotyield.com/blog/2016/3/25/privilege-is-what-allows-clinton-supporters-to-keep-supporting-her

[Jackilope]

1. Kick and Rec. n/t

[upaloopa]

2. What does this do to help Bernie? You have a few more months to trash Hillary then you will be

on to something else I guess.

What are you going to do after she is nominated? I'd really like to know.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. WHOOOSSHHHHH

[upaloopa]

5. Will you stay around DU? I think it would be fun for all of us to wook together to fight the repubs

Imagine we all agreeing on something for a change

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. WHHHHOOSSHH

[zappaman]

27. Nah, some posters are hoping Clinton is the nominee and then indicted.

They think it would be "funny".

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Actually some of us do get it

that if there is going to be one, better be BEFORE the nomination. From what we know, those of us who are choosing to follow the story, we know the expectation is May. Now I do not know what calendar you use, but May usually comes before July.

By the way, that celtic cross you use as an avatar. in current usage, you might want to consult the ADL, I mean that.

[tk2kewl]

17. ;-)

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. That is a cool graphic

Now fresh coffee., 110 pages to read on the chargers. Speaking about people missing the point

[tk2kewl]

20. What about the Padres?

It's time for baseball

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. They got their stadium

this is about the games OFF the field. Aka, how to screw the tax payer for our new spanking stadium

[tk2kewl]

23. Ah... Important stuff then...

Get to work

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. Funny, hubby said the same thing

so I got the spanking new voter initiative to read.

[Aerows]

29. Sums it up brilliantly, tk2kewl! n/t

[daleanime]

35. Yeahup.....

[CorporatistNation]

9. Play Golf Until It's Time To Cast a Vote...

and ... Do informational videos to help people make the most of whatever we have left of democracy...

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. One correction

pretend democracy



Of course, in ten, maybe twenty years with climate change...

[Avalon Sparks]

12. How is posting facts trashing her?

It's her record after all.

[Aerows]

30. Fait accompli

is that right? Because that is all that I have heard since October.

I guess the worthless voters don't matter.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Well according to a few models

my state might actually matter. Why they want Sanders to drop...

We never matter. I might have to show up to vote for MORE than just the minimum wage.

[amborin]

3. K&R

[Tarc]

7. So you keep coming across bloggers and tweeters who like your candidate and dislike her?

Quality reporting, there.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. WWHOOOOSSHHHH!!!!!!!!

[Tarc]

31. Not at all, I'm afraid

You seek out people who fit your preconceived notions, prop them up as examples of authority, and declare a grand conclusion that "proves" your point.

If this is is how you were taught debate and rhetoric in college, I'd consider asking for a tuition refund.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Again, missed the point by an astronomical unit

go on...

[Tarc]

38. I'm sorry, but your backpedaling is outpacing me

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. What backpedalling

Pointed out that there is backlash, You keep missing that point. And now by a full parsec

[Tarc]

41. Now you get within spitting distance of the point

The problem is, there is no backlash. Your "Bernie or Bust" crew is a from-white-privilege statistical minority.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. hmm hmm, you know this bernie or bust meme has not caught on

really.

It also proves certain ahem nervousness

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/hillarys-supporters-reall_b_9551820.html

There is more, CNN is now starting, after declaring the Sanders campaign dead more times than I care to think, about HIS electability in November.

Now as to the backlash, it is real. Here is where you should worry. HRC is not creating any kind of real excitement. So you really cannot (yet) win that election in November without the voters you truly do despise.

And now the distance of you missing the point is at the galactic level. It is actually kind of cute.

[Tarc]

44. His campaign is dead, but like the Black Knight, it still keeps trying to bite Hill's legs

It's only a matter of time...

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Of course, it is dead...

whatever, you keep missing the point of the backlash. (For the record, the campaign will take this to the convention)

As I said, it is kind of cute, and now your missing the point is intergalactic.

[Tarc]

47. I know your acolytes fall for the lie that is so oft repeated it becomes the truth

but it doesn't work on the rest of us, I'm afraid.

There is not nor will there be a "backlash"; when Hillary is the nominee, he will endorse her and virtually all those who voted for him in the primaries will vote for her in the fall. A tiny and statistically insignificant number will not, and you all can go "backlash" each other behind closed doors to your heart's content.

Now, if you don't mind, have a seat on the ignore list for the night, as I'd like to browse the DU in peace & quiet for a few hours before bed.

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. You know what is hysterical

you are talking to a non believer in any of this shit. We live in a compromised democracy, if I could call it a democracy, with pretend elections.

Nope, Sanders is not my candidate. You heard that right. Who I vote for is my fucking business. Nor do I expect it to count anyway. But I do not fall in love with candidates. You on the other hand, are insulting and behaving like a true believer. I mean that in the true textbook definition of the term.

You go ahead and continue to ignore the backlash. It is actually quite hysterical.



Oh and now you have missed the point to the edge of the known universe.

[islandmkl]

51. Walter Brennan (Eddie) in 'To Have and Have Not':

Eddie: Say, was you ever bit by a dead bee?

Beauclerc: I have no memory of ever being bit by any kind of bee.

Slim: [interjecting] Were you?

Eddie: You're alright, lady. You and Harry's the only one that ever...

Morgan: Don't forget Frenchie.

Eddie: That's right. You and Harry and Frenchie. You know, you got to be careful of dead bees if you're goin' around barefooted, 'cause if you step on them they can sting you just as bad as if they was alive, especially if they was kind of mad when they got killed. I bet I been bit a hundred times that way.

Slim: You have? Why don't you bite them back?

Eddie: That's what Harry always says. But I ain't got no stinger.

...Bernie has a stinger...

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

8. I Agree, The Hillarians don't care about party unity...

They want to keep stringing along Progressives with little bones here and there while giving us terrible Third Way democrats.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. November will be a hoot

no, really.

That wind they are sowing and all that.

[PonyUp]

48. I'll be making a "Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Bernie" sticker when she loses.

Heck, I'll make it if she was to win. Either way, it's fitting.

[upaloopa]

13. We all want the same things.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Actually no, we do not want the same thigns

and that kid's blog should be clear, but I expect you to keep missing the point.

[BillZBubb]

28. Not even close.

[Aerows]

32. Clearly there is a very large segment of Democratic Party

voters that DO NOT want the same things.

[timmymoff]

36. No we dont

Not even close. I do not want someone who gives up a minimum wage fight before it even starts. Hillary gave up three dollars to negotiate with before the battle even happened. Is it because of her donors? Is it because she won't really fight? Do most people try to negotiate from a weaker position in hopes of getting weaker results? I hardly want anything her platform of mediocrity offers.

[Beowulf]

42. I want the Clinton machine destroyed

and carried out to the trash. That's the only way I see the party being able to effect any real change. Are you saying that's what you want?

[pinebox]

46. No we do NOT want the same things. Not by a long shot.

[haikugal]

15. K&R....thanks Nadin!

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. You welcome

tomorrow we will be celebrating the 15 an hour wage coming to California (in 2022, should be faster but I digress) This is something that comnservadems have fought against as well.

[haikugal]

22. Great news and yes, conservadems are fighting against the people. They always have.

[libdem4life]

25. I'm an FDR Democrat. Maybe I'll start calling myself a First Way Democrat...when social programs

were established that are fundamental to our nation today. A couple more programs won't hurt, what with all the wealth flowing around to some.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

26. K & R

Time for party unity and go with the favourable candidate...

[m-lekktor]

34. ...

[islandmkl]

50. K & R

[Jester Messiah]

52. This, exactly!

If people are so worried about Trump, then how does it make any sense to insist upon Hillary as the nominee? Bernie is by far the safer option!

[nadinbrzezinski]

53. I did not post it because of the partisanship

But the talk of privilege. That struck me.