I am tired of hearing about how many votes Hillary has received to date....

[afertal]

Until and unless we have a uniform primary election system the total number of votes amassed through this process has very little to do with the general election.... Open Primaries, closed primaries, no primaries, caucuses, # of polling places, etc....all spread out over six months. Forget it. It's irrelevant once the nominees are chosen.

[stone space]

1. The numbers are fake.

There is no such number associated with Iowa, for example. The number just doesn't exist.

People are just making up numbers.

[Trust Buster]

2. Yes, and Sanders leads in delegates as well...too funny....LOL

[stone space]

6. More made-up numbers.

Yes, and Sanders leads in delegates as well...too funny....LOL

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. If one takes the time one can estimate the votes at a caucus and allocate them accordingly.

She would still be leading over 2,000,000 votes, all the obscurantism in the world notwithstanding.

[lunamagica]

4. Online online polls...

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[stone space]

42. Online polls are real numbers, and can be used to predict...

...which respondents are more likely to get repetitive motion injuries, if you have access to how many times each respondent voted.

[lunamagica]

45. ...

[JoePhilly]

3. Maybe we should use Facebook "likes".

[Sheepshank]

5. might make the OP happier, for sure. n/t

[afertal]

10. Hillary's claims are about as credible as Facebook....

....so it would be a wash.

[Sheepshank]

30. Neither Hillary, her team or her supporters look to Facebook.....

.....as irrefutable evidence of any political standings. That would be the sole purview of Sanders Supporters.

And you are somewhat correct, Facebook polls, advice and political savvy has no credibility...when do you think the rest of the Sanders team will realize this fact?

[afertal]

41. Sorry, but I don't do Facebook nor lend any credence to it...

I was only trying to point out that...

link:

...totaling up the votes in the states that have primaries is meaningless...

[auntpurl]

14. lol

[lunamagica]

8. It shows who is the people's choice. Admit it, if Sanders was ahead by 2.5 million, or even

by two hundred thousand votes, his camp would be screaming it from the rooftops

[CalvinballPro]

12. There's always a double standard in Bernie's favor. On every issue, it seems like. nt

[randome]

9. Of course this has little to do with the general election. It's a primary.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Avalux]

11. It's all Hillary Inc. has right now to counter her sinking ship. n/t

[JoePhilly]

19. Yea, more votes and more delegates.

[riversedge]

23. "You have to have the right number of delegates to get the nomination" #HillaryClinton does indeed #

TWEET
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"You have to have the right number of delegates to get the nomination"
#HillaryClinton does indeed #FeelTheMath



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#FeeltheMath

[Codeine]

31. Winning is a fairly effective tactic, to be fair. nt

[Avalux]

32. Nothing has been won yet. n/t

[Codeine]

33. Y'all keep telling yourselves that. nt

[Avalux]

34. It's a fact. n/t

[workinclasszero]

15. You are tired of democracy because your candidate is 2.5 million votes behind?

Wow.

Just wow. SMH

[cosmicone]

16. LMAO .... Are you serious?

[creon]

17. I will have no problem

voting for either Clinton or Sanders.
They are both politicians who stand head and shoulders above any GOP candidate.

[MoonRiver]

18. Depressing, isn't it?

[NurseJackie]

21. Ha! :-D My thought exactly!

[riversedge]

20. Shucky darns--you have a sad. Such is life.

[MineralMan]

22. I see. Well, that's all part of the process.

Pledged delegate counts. Popular vote. They're both important. Whether you are tired of hearing about them is really irrelevant. This is how we choose our nominee for the general election. So, it's very interesting to most people.

[hrmjustin]

24. Don't like reality?

Hillary has more pledge delegates and votes. That is reality!

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. I THINK (don't hold me to this) she's 2.5 million ahead.

Or at least that's the amount (2.5 million) I see touted in almost every other post. It's a little like this time last year when everyone was beaten over the head with 47% of the voters luuuuuv Hillary! (along with lots of blue links -- probably about 2.5 million of them).

To save time (BTW, 2.5 million), I humbly suggest that everyone just go ahead and make "Hillary's ahead by 2.5 million votes and your guy's a big ol' meanie socialist and your mother dresses you funny" as their sig line. It'll save a lot of keystrokes.

Just trying to make life easier for everyone,

I remain,

Your Humble Helpful Servant.

P.S. 2.5 Million.

[Democrats Ascendant]

27. Bwahahahaha!

[Capt. Obvious]

35. I had forgotten about the blue links

Don't miss that

[revbones]

26. First it's only delegates matter, then it's only the popular vote matters

Hard to argue with moving targets...

[stone space]

43. In the absense of a popular vote, the convention is pretty much stuck with the delegate count.

The moving goalposts are an illusion.

It's been about delegates all along.

[KPN]

28. The numbers are meaningless until we get to the end -- June 14th.

Hillary throws the 2.5 million vote lead out there because it sounds good, even though it is misleading and flawed. Bernie would do the same I'm guessing -- were he in the position.

I get tired of Hillary throwing the number out there for sure. But, at the same time, I have faith that more and more people are thinking for themselves and not just accepting statements from authority figures as fact. Maybe enough people that the final delegate count will be in Bernie's favor.

[leftynyc]

29. LOL - from the side

that pushed online, unscientific polls, that's fucking hilarious.

[mythology]

36. Then can Sanders supporters stop trying to push

The idea that his supporters are so much more enthusiastic and he represents such a larger group? That is what most people talk about her lead there are responding to.

[Gwhittey]

39. Her lead should be 3x

What it is. She started this race by a ton. At start she was up by 70+ points and then in Nov she was leading 58 to 30 over Sanders. All she has done is go down in the polls.

[Gwhittey]

37. I guess not. All Hillary supports come here to

Talk about the horse race that their candidate started ahead by 98% and now just want to talk about how she is winning by 6% now. I would be dam ashamed to even think that because she lost so much ground in less than a year because most people think she sucks. Only ones who have little knowledge of issues are voting for her(excluding the celebrity worshipers online who just close their eyes) Even in this thread they have to fight harder than trying to defend issues over who has more votes in a system that was rig in her favor. Sad day that Sanders has gotten this far, it shows her lack of being a candidate.

Clinton Supports Clinton Should be ahead by over 600 delegates over Sanders right now. All her "votes" are because she has name recondition going against a unknown Senator from VT.

[dana_b]

38. and her bajillion SDs!!

I saw good Dr. Evil meme this morning but now I cant find it!

Anyway, the fact that millions of people haven't even voted yet (like ME!) seems to be escaping so many people's minds. Her lead WILL be cut down.

[stone space]

44. Meh. The supers will go with the pledged delegates.

Not individually, but as a group.

[afertal]

40. You Hillary folks sure are defensive...

...but I regret to inform you that there is no democratic (small d) primary process in which all Americans vote. There is a Democratic Party process, which varies dramatically from state to state. As I said, some open, some closed, some caucuses etc..

To total up the votes cast in the individual states (or at least in the ones that have primaries) says little.....