2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie's hypocritical attack on Hillary's fossil fuel dollars
It ignores that he, too, has received support from a fossil fuel lobbyist. A single one, actually.
https://theintercept.com/2016/04/01/bernie-sanders-took-money-from-the-fossil-fuel-lobby-too-just-not-much/
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts).....pointing out her ties to Wall Street is not attacking her character...what has he said that has attacked her character? IMHO, saying "we're sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails" was quite the opposite, best campaign present this season.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)She is not in business with Wall Street :::::::: eyeroll ::::::::::::
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)What about the billionaires of multiple authoritarian countries that have donated to The Clinton Foundation? The money she uses comes from suspicious sources.
Where does Bernie's campaign money come from? hmmmmmmmm
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)People like a candidate and donate money. I like Hillary and I donated money - doesn't create a "tie".
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Though I doubt my small sum vs. a donation of 5 million dollars from George Soros has the same personal influence.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)In every country in the world, rich people get "access." The access is valuable because they can get an audience to get their point of view heard. That is all.
Unless the country is extremely corrupt like Pakistan or Nigeria, donating doesn't guarantee a policy change or favorable legislation.
It is the height of bad behavior to equate large donations as corrupt in the US. The president really doesn't have much power no matter how much money is given.
People genuinely like Hillary Clinton, her intellect and her experience. Those are lost on low information revolutionaries who are solely driven by "let's rob the rich and share the free stuff"
Intellect, experience and nuanced knowledge of policy makes good administrators which create stability and stability is good for economic growth. Economic growth is good for EVERYONE.
Stop the smears and innuendos of "corruption" with words like "ties"
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)...and pays his family who work for him on his campaign, obscene salaries, like 90,000 for his wife and 60,000 for his second-cousin twice removed, ridiculous.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)But the point Green Peace are making is for them to sign a petition to not tale money from them. Sanders signed it. So keep trying to deep Hillary out of the Hole I am sure she will reward you.
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)$24?
pantsonfire
(1,306 posts)....she's received $330,000 from individuals and around $4.5 million into her superPACs from what we can tell now. superPacs are not that transparent, so we don't have an up to date figure. Also, she supports fracking, if the community wants it and doesn't cause pollution (which it often does), whereas Sanders does not at all, in any case because of its damage to the environment.
TM99
(8,352 posts)Seriously?
Do you think we are fucking idiots?
$24.00 versus millions in personal and SuperPAC contributions, and you are playing a false equivalency hypocrisy game?
Go the fuck away!
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)I'll bet some people who work in convenience stores that sell gasoline have also contributed to Bernie's campaign.
Nanjeanne
(4,975 posts)unfortunately, goes over some people's head!
jg10003
(976 posts)The CEO of Exxon contributes $2700 to Hillary. The FEC reports that Sanders and Clinton each received a contribution from people who work in the oil industry.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Way to go, I knew there were closet Bernie supporters here!