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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:08 PM Apr 2016

Slate: Sanders campaign is telling the truth about Hillary's fossil fuel money

Clinton Says She’s “Sick of the Sanders Campaign Lying” About Her—Which It Isn’t Doing

Working the crowd after the event, Clinton was pressed by a Greenpeace activist unaffiliated with the Sanders campaign about the thousands of dollars in donations her campaign has received from individuals with ties to the oil and gas industry. "Will you act on your word to reject fossil-fuel money in the future in your campaign?" Eva Resnick-Day asked. To which Clinton shot back, angrily pointing her finger at the activist: “I do not have—I have money from people who work for fossil fuel companies. I am so sick—I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me. I’m sick of it.”




It was an unusual flash of anger on the rope line from Clinton, who has experience playing either dumb or hard of hearing when asked a question she doesn’t want to answer in similar situations. The intensity of her response aside, though, it was similarly disingenuous as many of her previous ones on the topic of campaign cash. Clinton is technically right, her campaign has not received any donations directly from oil and gas corporations—but that’s hardly something to boast about given federal law bars corporations from directly donating to candidates. But as has been well documented by now, Hillary has received hundreds of thousands of dollars from the individuals who work for the industry. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, her campaign has received more than $300,000 from oil and gas industry employees this cycle. (For comparison, Bernie Sanders has received a little more than $50,000 from the industry by that same metric, while John Kasich has received $115,000 and Ted Cruz more than $1 million.)

Hillary’s total, though, climbs higher still if you factor in money raised by fossil-fuel lobbyists who bundle donations on her behalf. A recent Greenpeace report, for example, found that Clinton received more than $1.2 million in donations raised by fossil-fuel industry lobbyists, a number that climbs to $4.5 million if you add the money those same lobbyists also raised for her aligned super PACs. All that cash—to say nothing of the millions companies like ExxonMobil have given to the Clinton foundation—remains a sore spot for many climate activists who remain skeptical that Hillary will deliver on her green promises if she’s elected. Her aggressive response is unlikely to put those fears to rest.

Still, given her commanding delegate lead, Clinton appears to believe she won’t need to fully win over the climate hawks, nor convince Sanders supporters to love her come November. Instead, she’s banking on the idea that progressive’s fears about what a Republican president would do in office will be a much greater motivating force on Election Day than their doubts about Clinton ever could be. In many ways, that was her plan all along (particularly on climate). But that looks like a safer strategy each day closer she gets to a general election matchup with Donald Trump or Ted Cruz.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/04/01/hillary_clinton_says_bernie_sanders_is_lying_about_her_he_s_not.html
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Slate: Sanders campaign is telling the truth about Hillary's fossil fuel money (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Apr 2016 OP
What I don't understand is why Hillary thinks starting a war against Greenpeace will Dragonfli Apr 2016 #1
She's not going for the voters on the Left enigmatic Apr 2016 #3
Nice Point... CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #6
Those are sixteen minutes añd 39 seconds well worth attending to. Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #9
She thinks she has Democrats sewn up, she's heading right now. revbones Apr 2016 #7
She doesn't care what we 840high Apr 2016 #10
She is not starting a war with Greenpeace. She wants to treated fairly and Slate is wrong again. Jitter65 Apr 2016 #14
Then why was she so hostile towards that Greenpeace young woman? All they want from her is to sign Dragonfli Apr 2016 #15
"Her aggressive response is unlikely to put those fears to rest." Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #2
You are so right... Fairgo Apr 2016 #4
This was a big mistake on her part. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #5
Wait. She honestly thinks people fear Trump or Cruz Rebkeh Apr 2016 #8
Better than a Republican Mnpaul Apr 2016 #18
Ayup. She's a LIAR. AzDar Apr 2016 #11
Slate?????????? cosmicone Apr 2016 #12
You guys don't mind Slate when they run a pro-Hillary story, which sadly they do frequently. RiverLover Apr 2016 #13
They call Motherjones a right wing rag now as well, amazing isn't it? Dragonfli Apr 2016 #16
I though that with SuperPac corporate mega-donors could "hide" their donations NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #17

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
1. What I don't understand is why Hillary thinks starting a war against Greenpeace will
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:21 PM
Apr 2016

help her with Democrats.

I think it is a really, really bad move on her part.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
9. Those are sixteen minutes añd 39 seconds well worth attending to.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:52 PM
Apr 2016

Very moving. Thanks. Democracy, albeit troubled, in action.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
7. She thinks she has Democrats sewn up, she's heading right now.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

This is an twofer. She got to attack Sanders and a lefty organization in one bout of anger.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
14. She is not starting a war with Greenpeace. She wants to treated fairly and Slate is wrong again.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:26 AM
Apr 2016

We all know what is being said and we all know that Clinton gets more money from individuals who work for oil and energy companies. But we also know that Bernie gets some money from them too and Hillary and her camp have not complained or put out innuendo about his integrity for doing so UNTIL she was attacked by the BS camp on this issue. A President and supporters like BS is just what this country does not need at this time.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
15. Then why was she so hostile towards that Greenpeace young woman? All they want from her is to sign
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016

an agreement not to take money from the fossil fuel industry. Which she does, no matter what bullshit David Brock has been whispering in your ear, Besides these industries giving her PACS huge money, she even takes it from industry lobbyists whose job it is to dispense legalized bribes for influence from the corporations that hire them, Do you think they are paid to do nothing?
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/hillary-clinton-bundlers-fossil-fuel-lobbyists



If She Doesn't want to start a war with Greenprace, she should stop being so abusive to their members - if she does not take money from the fossil fuel industry she should just sign their agreement not to do so, but she won't of course because she relies heavily on their money which has been tracked not only by Salon by the way (everyone not workings for her super PAC outlets agrees she is and is doing so very, very, well- her promotion of frakking was in part to insure that) Sale Of Blue Nation Review Gives Hillary Clinton Camp Its Very Own Media Outlet

Get in the real world, and learn something, one thing you should learn is that real Democrats do not start wars with Greenpeace because so many Democratic voters not only respect them and contribute to their cause, they vote AGAINST those against them and against the goals of a living environment. If you wan't to be anti-Greenpeace and anti-environment , just join the Rebublicans they are already on that page and don't even have to lie about it.
 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
2. "Her aggressive response is unlikely to put those fears to rest."
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:23 PM
Apr 2016

Well written.

"Climate hawks"? ... What, akin to War Hawks? As if there is such an easy (sic) choice?

There is no choice. There is, now, only inevitability.

Please deal with it, USA, as the rest of the world are here trying to.

Thanks. Vote Sanders.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
4. You are so right...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

There has long been only the illusion of choice. Now, the illusion is in tatters.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
5. This was a big mistake on her part.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:36 PM
Apr 2016

By now everyone knows she lied and her nasty attack on the GreenPeace protestor including blaming Bernie makes her look unhinged and paranoid.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
8. Wait. She honestly thinks people fear Trump or Cruz
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

more than they hate her? People seriously think that? Really? That's how she wins? It boggles my mind. That goes beyond laziness, it's letting the other side dictate the terms. That is NOT leadership. Leaders give you a reason to follow them, they don't wait for an enemy to chase you to them. That's how you set traps, actually.

God help us all.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
13. You guys don't mind Slate when they run a pro-Hillary story, which sadly they do frequently.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:21 AM
Apr 2016

Its a progressive magazine.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
17. I though that with SuperPac corporate mega-donors could "hide" their donations
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:11 AM
Apr 2016

from public scrutiny? How is it possible to discern where the money is coming from if the law was written to prevent just that?

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