Sensitivity Training:

[murielm99]

Bernie's Meltdown Over Hillary's Truth Telling Exposes the Nature of a Bully

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/4/1/sensitivity-training-bernies-meltdown-over-being-called-out-for-lies-exposes-hallmark-of-bully

The Sanders campaign is demanding that Hillary Clinton apologize for telling the truth. They and their supporters are having an absolute meltdown over the fact that Hillary Clinton called them out on crafty lies they have been telling about her, and as a consequence, they can no longer furnish that lie without explanation.

At issue is Sanders' longstanding accusation that Hillary Clinton "takes money from the fossil fuel industry." Approached by an aggressive Greenpeace activist about that talking point from the Sanders camp, Secretary Clinton finally called out Sen. Sanders, saying, "I do not. I take money from people who work for companies. I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me."

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Under any reasonable person theory, taking money from an industry would mean taking direct contributions from the companies or their PACs, which the Clinton campaign does not do. Her Presidential campaign takes money, as does Sen. Sanders, from individuals who work for certain employers. Given his own contributors who work in the fossil fuel industry, it's doubtful Sanders is in favor of restricting the rights of citizens to give to their candidate of choice because of their employers. No has Sen. Sanders returned the money from those individuals, making it just a tad hypocritical for him to be challenging contributions made by other individuals to other candidates.

It is, however, true that the biggest fossil fuel dealers in the world, the Koch brothers, are spending millions supporting Bernie Sanders' candidacy in the Democratic primary.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

1. Ahahahaha Is this Satire? April Fool's ended 45 minutes ago here nt

[Recursion]

2. So, no response?

I'm being generous and assuming most of Sanders' supporters on DU simply have no idea how campaign finance works. Sanders and his team do, though, which is why I find his campaign's cynical pandering so disappointing. I still voted for the guy, but damn he's making swallowing that harder every day.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

3. I'll Let Hillary 2008 respond for me

Sad attempt from Clinton camp trying to obfuscate the reality of her fossil fuel money.

[George II]

62. Once again, Sanders supporters demonstrate their obsession with the past.

In case you missed it, this is 2016.

[Octafish]

74. And innocent people are still dying in Iraq.

And Libya. And Honduras. And Haiti. And Somalia. And Yemen...and a lot of other places where "Money trumps peace."

[George II]

82. And Sanders voted to fund every American penny used to do so.

It's like everything else he's done in Congress in his 25 years - he votes for (bad stuff) or against (good stuff) and has an "out" (i.e., excuse) for each and every negative vote he's cast.

[Octafish]

85. The difference is, Bernie didn't vote for war.

He voted to support the troops once there -- and when they come home.

I'm surprised you didn't mention that.

[George II]

86. He's voted to continue "war". That's his out on this issue, "I didn't vote for it", until he did.

We don't have combat troops in several of those countries you mention, but he still voted for the military equipment to conduct those wars.

His convenient excuses are, "it would have passed anyway so I voted against it", "it would have been vetoed anyway so I voted for it." Always an excuse.

[beam me up scottie]

90. Links to those quotes and the specifics about the bills you say he voted for please.

I want to see if you're telling the truth about voting to "continue war".

[beam me up scottie]

89. Link to back up that claim, please. Which bills? What else was in them?

[polly7]

83. 'When someone shows you who they are, believe them.' nt.

[beam me up scottie]

91. Oh yes indeed, I completely agree, polly.

[Autumn]

69. Yeah sure, I voted for Hillary too

[SMC22307]

5. It's Spamdan!

Wonder whose payroll he's on? Possibly the same as "yes, we are a real news outlet!" dailynewsbinners, and red-baiting, racist, homophobic, Kissinger-approving Grace what's-her-name.

[beam me up scottie]

14. He's too stupid, no one would pay him except maybe to entertain at parties

I'm waiting for little missiwishiwassmartrpants to give us her expert opinion.

Shit, it's not April fools anymore, too late!

[SMC22307]

20. Keep repeating FUD often enough, and dumbasses will believe it.

Spamdan's MO.

Smarty and some of the recent ones we've been treated to get very little traffic, but People's Spew has picked up steam. Someone is funding it.

[beam me up scottie]

24. That could be, same with grace laine the homophobe/racist.

I just saw more links to her blog, the one where she features videos from Project Veritas.

Makes you wonder who the real Trump supporters are.

Maybe Rove is paying them.

[murielm99]

7. Your response only proves the point of the article.

Bernie and his supporters bully, lie, and belittle.

[DemonGoddess]

56. agreed

thank you for the post!

[George II]

70. As are many of the responses in this thread, many from "new" members!

[itsrobert]

76. +1

thanks for caring

[polly7]

4. This is still a joke, right?

[murielm99]

8. See post 7.

[polly7]

10. No. nt.

[SMC22307]

21. LOL (n/t)

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

22. See post 3 nt

[UtahLib]

6. K&R. nt

[bravenak]

9. And people follow his lead and behave the same way

[murielm99]

11. Off topic,

but I like the avatar. I own that CD and play it fairly often. Etta could belt!

[bravenak]

17. I was surprised to find it in the list

Like HOT DAMN, got a good one this time. Might keep this one, I love her.

[pacalo]

12. Bernie had a meltdown?!!1!

When someone surrounds themselves with only yes-people & sycophants, any straight-shooting might make her feel "bullied".

I don't think she could handle Trump one-on-one. Now, that is a bully.

[murielm99]

15. That is laughable,

coming from a Bernie supporter. Anyone, IRL or online, who dares to criticize St. Bernard is shouted down and bullied. It is true here, and everywhere. It has been commented on by journalists, citizens and politicians. Bernie supporters have raised political bullying to a new level.

[pacalo]

23. Subjective talk.

Bernie is not a bully & to claim so on behalf of Hillary is doing her no favors when her supporters are enthralled with her possibly being the first woman president. She's got to show a thicker skin; the job calls for it.

[beam me up scottie]

13. SpamDan = troll who lives in mom's basement and was banned from DU

Has meltdown every other hour because Bernie supporters are mean to him, writes about Bernie's "meltdown" with straight face.

Wonders why everyone is laughing.

[polly7]

16. Seriously, 'sensitivity training' for a decent, 'sensitive' man from a troll banned from here?

ffs.

[beam me up scottie]

18. He's a nasty, lying troll who hates hates progressives. Who takes him seriously?

Every time someone calls him on his lies he freaks out and calls them a bully.

He cannot tolerate any criticism whatsoever and only communitcates with people who agree with him. Ttalk about projection.

[polly7]

26. Hmmmm ........

I'm just going to read for awhile here.

[beam me up scottie]

30. OMG did you read this part?:

Why? Because bullies don't have anything to go on beside for their bluster, red-in-the-face attack, and brute force. They thrive on not being challenged, on not having to answer to anyone for their behavior. When they are stood up to, they want everyone to coddle them and be sensitive to their hurt feelings while they go on being the biggest pinheads on the face of the earth.

[SMC22307]

38. Ease off, you pinhead bully brute!

Please coddle me!

[Fairgo]

48. I like coddled eggs

and I can coddle the shit out of an egg. I coddle them like a boss. I might be the king coddler.

[SMC22307]

67. I like poached eggs.

Let's fight!

(Great, now I'm going to be spending too much time on Pinterest looking at pretty pics of egg coddlers...)

[Fairgo]

87. The hard boilers thank you for your vote

You poachers with your fancy talk and new ways, you are going to scramble our chances for a win!
All you care about is the whites...not good enough.
You'll have egg on your faces when the chickens come home to roost

[SMC22307]

94. I support eggs of all colors...

AND all in one basket!

[polly7]

39. Good grief ........

SpamDan is quite melodramatic. I've been reading here a looong time and the behaviour he is describing doesn't fit the people he's trying to make it to ... at all.

[SMC22307]

25. "TROLL."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=292212&sub=trans

He gets absolutely nailed in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662610

It's fuckin' hilarious.

[polly7]

28. Oh, a definite troll!

Off to read the thread, thank you.

[SMC22307]

34. DU chewed up and spit the guy out.

It's hilarious that a couple of posters think *anything* has changed for the site as a whole.

[polly7]

40. That's a very illuminating thread.

Not sure why anyone would link to a troll site .......... but whatever.

[SMC22307]

44. "Not sure why anyone would link to a troll site"

It's because HRC supporters are CLASSY, and we're red-faced pinhead bully brutes.

Well, this thread has been fun enough, but off to bed. 'Nite everyone!

[polly7]

45. Sleep well! nt.

[beam me up scottie]

32. That thread was magnificent. And I hope he's reading this one.

SpamDan is a rat fucking troll who is probably on Rove's payroll.

[SMC22307]

35. If so, howdy-ho Spamdan!

[beam me up scottie]

37. I found an old picture of you, SpamDan:

[polly7]

41. !!

[polly7]

42. ...........

[beam me up scottie]

63. Sure, everyone knows SpamDan's a joke on the internet.

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He's a jealous, lying little rat fucker and he's actively working to smear one of our candidates, that makes him a tool for Rove imo.

[demmiblue]

68. You are replying to someone who was also banned from DU (DU2).

The lot of them got a fresh start on DU3.

[beam me up scottie]

71. Wait, he was banned before?

Well that explains a lot, thanks for the tip.

[SMC22307]

95. Same user name? (n/t)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

19. lol. posting it again with a different title still doesn't make it true!

[bravenak]

27. He should return the money

[Cha]

29. Thank you, muriel!

[BernieforPres2016]

31. That's funny, Hillary attacked Obama in 2008 for the defense Hillary is now using

See the ad at this post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=163766

And now you go on Ignore with the rest of the Hillary supporters.

[TM99]

33. You post a hit piece from

a troll who was banned on DU and expect us to take the article, the author, and you seriously?!

Well, it is still April Fool's Day, I guess.

[murielm99]

36. I am a proud HRC supporter,

and not the one being fooled.

Hillary and her supporters have behaved with class. Bernie and his bullies? Not so much.

We will see who is serious by the time we have a nominee. It will not be Bernie.

[polly7]

43. You're not serious.

If wanting to talk about the issues as I've seen here, is being bullied, I honestly feel sorry for anyone so victimized by it. That's gotta be hard to deal with day to day. And I am serious.

[TM99]

47. I am sure you are proud,

however, the facts are that you posted an article from a thoroughly discredited source.

Clinton is a lying narcissist who yells at activists, be they AA or environmentalists, for challenging her in public. Yeah, real classy that one.

The projection is so sickening when you have 'classy' Clinton supporters slut-shaming Sarandon and calling her an idiot, a buffoon, and a thug.

Shall I go on?

Yes, we may sadly indeed have Clinton as the nominee, thus ensuring a resounding defeat in the general for the left.

[murielm99]

75. The only reason you are saying this is a discredited source

is that it does not worship your candidate.

Slut-shaming? Name-calling? No one has done that here. I have not seen any of those names used here.

If I dared to call you or your fellow Bernie followers, or your candidate half the names that Hillary has been called, I would be banned here.

You are a hypocrite.

[TM99]

81. Bullshit.

It is discredited because of the reasons given in this thread. The guy was banned as a troll from DU.

Talk about fucking projection. The only reason you are saying it is a creditable source is because it attacks my candidate.

And yes, indeed those did occur. If I called out the posters, I would get a hide, so open your eyes and go look at what your fellow Clinton supporters are doing.

You my dear are the only hypocrite in this thread.

[polly7]

84. It's so strange ........ that group has often expressed

hate and derision against trolls banned here that head to Discussionist. I guess it depends on who's propping up at the time the lies you need out there.

[TM99]

93. Incongruencies abound

in the Clinton world.

[Fairgo]

49. No one doubts that you are proud

You proud like a boss. If you are going to march into the septic tank, do it proudly.

[jeff47]

72. Bringing a PPR'ed troll back to DU is behaving with class? (nt)

[pnwmom]

46. It exposes the hypocrisy again, wherein Hillary can't express any strong emotion

without being considered out of control -- but Bernie can wave his arms around and yell on a daily basis and that's just fine. That's just Bernie being Bernie.

And in this case she is justifiably angry. 97.7 % of the donations from individuals in the industry (not the companies themselves, which are barred from donating) have been going to the GOP -- not either Dem.
That shows how much employees in the industry prefer the GOP.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/apr/01/sorting-out-clintons-fossil-fuel-contributions/

According to the latest tallies from Center for Responsive Politics, Clinton's campaign has received $307,561 from people who work for oil and gas interests so far in the presidential race. Sanders has received nearly six times fewer dollars — $53,760.

For Clinton, that's 0.2 percent of the more than $159.9 million her campaign committee, Hillary for America, has raised. For Sanders, it's 0.04 percent of $139.8 million.

Super PACs supporting Clinton have directly given an additional $25,701. Sanders does not have a super PAC.

So far, 97.7 percent of donations from people connected the oil and gas industry have gone to Republicans.

But in Clinton’s case, that doesn't include "bundlers," a fancy name for fundraisers who collect money from individual donors and bundle the money together for a campaign.

A bundler might, for example, arrange to have each executive from an oil company, along with each adult member of his or her family, give $1,000 per person, which is bundled together and given to the campaign. It's legal because the individuals aren't violating the per-person limit.

The Huffington Post article from July 17, 2015, cited by Sanders found that "nearly all of the lobbyists bundling contributions for Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign have at one time or another worked for the fossil fuel industry." It links to 40 registered lobbyists but only offers details on some donors who still work for the industry.

However, the Greenpeace report says that when you add in the bundlers’ donations (lobbyists with some alleged tie to the fossil fuel industry), Clinton's total rises to nearly $1.8 million. The fossil fuel industry's share of the Clinton coffers goes up to 0.8 percent.

[fun n serious]

50. people have been manipulated

to think everyone and everything except Bernie is crooked. They now do not trust anything they see. It's sad that this has happened in a presidential campaign. Usually this is seen in Cults.

[Scuba]

51. "Bernie's Meltdown Over Hillary's Truth Telling ..." Holy shit - that there's some spin!!!!

[Laser102]

53. Typical politician. Lie on the stump, get caught, and it's the other guys fault.

In other words, busted.

[NastyRiffraff]

54. K&R

Thanks for posting that, muriel. The People's View gets it right every time.

[Bluenorthwest]

59. Wow you really hit all the nasty baiting themes in one disgusting post.

This is exemplary of the Clinton cohort and exactly why I oppose them. Red baiting, Jew baiting, and all with a casualness that should give chills even to the most extreme conservatives in our Party.

[cosmicone]

60. Is anything I stated untrue? n/t

[Bluenorthwest]

66. None of it is lacking in bias dripping tropes and classic baiting verbiage so truth is not possible

when employing such bigoted lexicons. It's really a rotten post and every word in it is reeking with that rot.

[whatchamacallit]

57. Yay, more delusional ramblings of a tombstoned troll!

[Bluenorthwest]

58. Hey murielm99, do you endorse all the PPR'd trolls who are 'for Hillary' or just this one?

Because there are some real pips in that cohort. I can't believe anyone posts this guy's crap here, he's attacked every Democrat that breaths, including Obama and Clinton and he was banned by EarlG as a troll.

Do you endorse all the PPR'd or just some of them? Have you told the admins how you feel about this blogger, whom they call a troll yet you see as a valid expression of your own political views?

A thread in which this community tells that smear merchant what for:

Liberals Without A Conscience
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023662610#post23

Barf.

[mcar]

61. K&R

[Walk away]

64. Poor Bernie! Always the victim....

He has no platform except "1% Oligarchy" and his campaign is coming to an end after Wisconsin so he has to start attacking in order to get some attention. When he gets swatted back he's all WAAAAAAA! And that's about that. No one but his Followers care.

Now he is desperate for another debate where he will say the same thing he always does and answers every question with his Big Bank spiel. Enough with the free advertising Bernie. Let the Millennials send in more of their weekly allowance to fund your campaign in NYS. They like hearing your stump speech all day every day. The rest of the world is getting bored.

[itsrobert]

77. +1

thanks for caring

[Hiraeth]

73. what a pantload. welcome to ignore.

[SHRED]

78. And then there is actual BIG OIL behavior from HRC

The State Department under Hillary's leadership promoted hydraulic fracking worldwide while working closely with big oil interests.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511630955

http://m.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron



Ooops...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

79. Hillary saying she doesn't take the money is the getaway driver saying "I only drive".

[dana_b]

80. you're funny

oh and "the peoplesview"??

thanks for the laugh! I feel better now.

[Betty Karlson]

88. Projection and hypocrisy: the line is ever further blurred. eom

[frylock]

92. The People Spew

Brock Nation Review, Daily New Spin, and The People Spew have been seeing some heavy rotation this week. That's how you know that Mrs. Clinton's campaign has gone sideways.