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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:29 PM Apr 2016

Top UN Advisor: HRC's Compulsive Misrepresentation Makes Her Unfit to be President:

Top economist, UN advisor and climate activist: "Clinton is a danger to world peace"

Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath


by Jeffrey D. Sachs

At Milwaukee Debate, Hillary stated:

But I would add this. You know, the Security Council finally got around to adopting a resolution. At the core of that resolution is an agreement I negotiated in June of 2012 in Geneva, which set forth a cease-fire and moving toward a political resolution, trying to bring the parties at stake in Syria together.



Except, Hillary was blatantly lying
:

Dr. Jeffrey Sachs notes:

This is the kind of compulsive misrepresentation that makes Clinton unfit to be President
. Clinton's role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.

In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan.


It was US intransigence - Clinton's intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan's peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats.

Despite Clinton's insinuation in the Milwaukee debate, there was (of course) no 2012 ceasefire, only escalating carnage. Clinton bears heavy responsibility for that carnage, which has by now displaced more than 10 million Syrians and left more than 250,000 dead......


http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/15/1485382/-Top-economist-UN-advisor-and-climate-activist-Clinton-is-a-danger-to-world-peace
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Top UN Advisor: HRC's Compulsive Misrepresentation Makes Her Unfit to be President: (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
Hillary is just two things short of being a perfect candidate FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #1
The Responsible Obserever Will Agree to Your Point w/o Question! Now A Bit More TRUTH! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #3
Her fans love her because she is tough. They like to side with the tough guy. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #5
Of course. She is a classic authoritarian. FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #16
She's only "tough" with those she perceives as less powerful tularetom Apr 2016 #19
THAT is exactly what is wrong. Octafish Apr 2016 #22
Classic behavior. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #28
I would add one more element to her lack of ethics and judgement... bvar22 Apr 2016 #33
Good call bvar FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #35
does she? grasswire Apr 2016 #41
Come on!! Coumadin is no big deal. My husband and his sister are on it, and-- eridani Apr 2016 #42
I know. grasswire Apr 2016 #44
coumadin requires regular INR blood tests to make sure the blood is not too thin or too thick amborin Apr 2016 #47
yes grasswire Apr 2016 #49
My friend who is almost a doctor says much about this. She HAS HEALTH ISSUES. ViseGrip Apr 2016 #58
As A Health professional Who Prescribes COUMADIN/WARFARIN... Hillary Has NOT Been Fully Forthcoming CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #62
wow! did not know all this! her conditions sound very serious; amborin Apr 2016 #63
this, she lacks amborin Apr 2016 #48
Oh snap! Faux pas Apr 2016 #2
Kick and Recommend. +1,000,000. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #4
Is It That Collateral Damage Or Incidental Carnage Just Does Not Ring a Bell With The Former SOS? CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #6
"Compulsive Misrepresentation" that's phrasing it nicely FreakinDJ Apr 2016 #7
But her supporters tell me she's all for women and children and people of color notadmblnd Apr 2016 #8
Kick azmom Apr 2016 #9
If it's a representative example, yes, she would be unfit. HassleCat Apr 2016 #10
Libya. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #13
Iraq, Libya, Syria.. there's your pattern Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #18
For that part of the world, yes. HassleCat Apr 2016 #21
Honduras, Haiti Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #24
Honduras, bvar22 Apr 2016 #34
Honduras eom noiretextatique Apr 2016 #37
here, the NY Times documents how she bungled Libya; and her emails show her taking full credit: amborin Apr 2016 #57
How many times are you going to post this? One guy's opinion, not shared by synergie Apr 2016 #11
How many innocents have died because of her hawkish foreign policy? polly7 Apr 2016 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Apr 2016 #43
Is he lying? Prove it. I notice Hillary supporters have a habit noiretextatique Apr 2016 #38
Here's a reminder of what she said in 2002 about the need to send American troops rhett o rick Apr 2016 #12
Imagine a media that would inform the American people of Clinton's past words and actions. The Karmadillo Apr 2016 #23
Bill Clinton should have known better. moondust Apr 2016 #53
"I'd like to see somebody publicly confront Bill Clinton on this, ask him why he didn't know better rhett o rick Apr 2016 #55
They may have all known. moondust Apr 2016 #56
I've always thought this too and why I believe she has absolutely no excuse for her vote. nt 2cannan Apr 2016 #65
People I talk to who do not support Hillary... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #14
Keep posting and remember that it's not an opinion that she lied. Scuba Apr 2016 #15
Lie, Cheat and Steal: Clinton Family Values. AzDar Apr 2016 #20
K&R CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #25
She just continues to do this crap. Pretending to be the solution when she's been the obfuscation. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #26
Again? Recycling smears from February? DanTex Apr 2016 #27
What is a smear? n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #29
i don't believe any of this nonsense. hillary may not be the best candidate, but this venom is MariaThinks Apr 2016 #30
why are you allowing yourself to be manipulated? n/t floppyboo Apr 2016 #31
when the only response to the truth is to call it a 'smear'... islandmkl Apr 2016 #32
Well, just being "totally unfit" doesn't mean she can't win. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #36
K and R panader0 Apr 2016 #39
K&R: Clinton is a threat to world peace. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #40
she certainly is amborin Apr 2016 #64
Yeah. like Obama waasn't President and his advisors didn't count. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #45
that's right--HRC defied the advice of Gates, Biden, etc....and she pressured Obama amborin Apr 2016 #51
An economist and environment advisor..judging about world peace and US military policy????nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #46
do you have any idea who Dr. Jeffrey Sachs is? amborin Apr 2016 #50
+10000 jillan Apr 2016 #54
crickets amborin Apr 2016 #61
Danger to world peace. I believe it. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #52
she certainly is amborin Apr 2016 #66
She is a classic reactionary AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #59
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #60

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
16. Of course. She is a classic authoritarian.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

She could actually be a semi-decent Republican. She certainly is no progressive or liberal.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
19. She's only "tough" with those she perceives as less powerful
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

She's rude to "liberals", environmentalists, and others she considers beneath her.

She's polite and even deferential to the Kissingers and Cheneys of the world and others she fears or respects.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. THAT is exactly what is wrong.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

The idea that some are worth more than others is undemocratic in the extreme.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. Classic behavior.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:29 PM
Apr 2016

I wrote about it here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710435

I said almost exactly what you said near the bottom under: "Some observations about bullies. "

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
33. I would add one more element to her lack of ethics and judgement...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

...and that would be a conscience.
The kind of blood she has on her hands don't wash off.
I wouldn't be able to sleep at night,

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
41. does she?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:16 PM
Apr 2016

We have been talking a bit about her health lately. Yesterday I learned that she has trouble navigating stairs, and she is taking coumadin.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
42. Come on!! Coumadin is no big deal. My husband and his sister are on it, and--
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:52 PM
Apr 2016

--suffering no ill effects.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
44. I know.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

Just wondering what exactly happened to her when she had that clot.

Millions of people are doing just fine on coumadin, but only one is running for what is arguably the world's most exhausting and strenuous job.

amborin

(16,631 posts)
47. coumadin requires regular INR blood tests to make sure the blood is not too thin or too thick
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

my uncle has atrial fibrillation and used to take Coumadin

it can lead to intestinal or cerebral vascular bleeds; alternatively, if the blood is not thin enough, it can lead to an embolus

not good, either way

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
49. yes
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 10:05 PM
Apr 2016

I watch the stories of people who suffer from cardiovascular disease on a FB page. There is many a problem that can come from keeping coumadin titrated.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
62. As A Health professional Who Prescribes COUMADIN/WARFARIN... Hillary Has NOT Been Fully Forthcoming
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:50 PM
Apr 2016

about her health issues.

The question concerning Coumadin is WHY she has been prescribed it. People are not just prescribed Coumadin cavalierly as there are significant risks associated with its use, in particular the risk of bleeding. The questions that arise are... Does she have cardiac issues such as Atrial Fibrillation which carries with it STROKE Risk? Clinton apparently had a fall previously where she incurred a head injury with associated concussion requiring two months of treatment for concussion associated double vision. This fall was reportedly attributed to a stomach ailment that resulted in dizziness from dehydration. Dehydration in such circumstances typically occurs secondary to vomiting and/or diarrhea.

The patient also has a history of Deep Venous Thrombosis x two events prior to her concussion incident, for which the standard of care is lifelong anti-coagualtion. While Clinton's health statement states that her Coumadin was continued as a precautionary measure this is a little bit of a "stretch" as the standard of care for two blood clots in lifetime is anti-coagulation for life. Clinton is not exactly the picture of health obviously 60 plus pounds overweight which is at least partially attributable to her acknowledged Hypothyroidism per her health report authored by her personal physician Dr. Bardack clearing Clinton as healthy enough to be President. Dr Bardack describes Clinton as being in "Top Notch" health. Details are according to the article taken from Clinton's letter of health status which was dated July 28,2015 available below.

An important point to consider when a patient is on Coumadin is fall risk.. Hillary according to pictoral evidence has a history of falls including an elbow fracture in 2009. Obviously a head injury while on Coumadin can become a life and death event. Her propensity for falling is documented in various photos that I have seen in my google research here. Notably, Clinton is reported to have had a Negative Hypercoaguable work up which within the bounds of current testing removes a genetic predisposition as a cause of her Deep Venous Thromboses.

Should Clinton fall again, her physician may recommend placement of a IVC or Greenfield Filter to prevent clots in the leg from migrating to her lung which would result in diagnosis of a Pulmonary Embolus. Discontinuation of anti-coagulation would be the standardhere perhaps with a daily baby aspirin added to her medication regimen if she also has Atrial Fibrillation ongoing concerns about a recurrence of the Transverse Sinus Thrombosis.

Certainly, Hillary did have some element of post concussive disorder following her concussion and blood clot in 2012 where she reportedly incurred a Transverse Sinus Thrombosis. Hillary has also been reported to have episodes of confusion as per emails from Huma Abedin her close assistant. http://www.weeklystandard.com/huma-hillary-often-confused/article/1064726 Do not criticize the source. The emails are there in black and white.

I would as a health professional like to see her labs. Overall, I would give the more elder Bernie a SOLID NOD over his opponent from a comparative health standpoint. There is chronological age and physiologic age as a matter of science. Bernie irrespective t of his white hair which has been white for the past 25 years, physiologically is in far better health in every respect as compared to Hillary. Bernie was in his youth a distance runner and excellent athlete and to this day is reportedly still able to perform one handed push ups. His weight is very much in the normal range and he is very fit for his age.

Full Clinton Health Statement By Dr Lisa Bardack HERE http://hillaryspeeches.com/tag/lisa-bardack/

Most importantly, Hillary is running to be President of The United States certainly a taxing job of the first order requiring considerable focus and physical stamina. Hillary may be a lot of things but if she is physically not up for the job, and I question the veracity of this report in that I believe that not everything is being disclosed, then perhaps this subject requires just a little bit more inquiry. Ask the same questions of Bernie, Trump for that matter. There is no room for obfuscation in this regard.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/06/law-enforcement-officials-medical-professionals-theres-something-seriously-wrong-hillary-clintons-health/

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
6. Is It That Collateral Damage Or Incidental Carnage Just Does Not Ring a Bell With The Former SOS?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

Could be....

Now some more TRUTH...




notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
8. But her supporters tell me she's all for women and children and people of color
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

Maybe they really mean that she's all for women and children and people of color dying violently.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
10. If it's a representative example, yes, she would be unfit.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

The Clinton position on Syria is wrong, seriously wrong, dangerously wrong. But is it merely a singular instance of bad judgment, or does it represent a wider tendency to get all aggressive and hawkish? Is it an indication that Clinton will follow the example of GW Bush and become a "wartime president" by manufacturing excuses about weapons, atrocities and failed states? The traditional cold war foreign policy, from which we did not measurably depart until the Obama presidency, was to take sides based on the notion that my enemy's enemy is my friend. We consistently ignored horrible atrocities committed by our friends, while condemning those of our enemies. This appears to be the Clinton approach to Syria. I know it's tempting to conclude, "See! That's the way she sees the world!" Is it? Does she see all foreign policy that way, or is her attitude different in different parts of the world?

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
21. For that part of the world, yes.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:12 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton is a huge supporter of Israel, and maintains a very aggressive posture when it comes to arming and funding Israel. Her rhetoric regarding countries that don't like Israel is very heated. And her views regarding these countries apply to a significant portion of the world, all the way from north Africa, around to the east, and back along the Mediterranean. Would her views of enemies and failed states extend to Latin America? Perhaps, since she has supported meddling there, but would her actions be limited to meddling, and stop short of bombing and invasion? For example, there is a significant chance she might bomb Iran, but would she bomb Honduras?

I did mention the size of the region to which her thinking applies, and that's a problem. It represents enough of the world that there's a very good chance we will get into a shooting war during a Clinton presidency. So I'm inclined to sort of agree with the "unfit" conclusion. Her foreign policy has no place in today's world, and represents significant backsliding from where we are right now. I am not looking forward to it.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
34. Honduras,
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:11 PM
Apr 2016

cheer leading and supporting the destruction of Iraq.

No, Syria is NOT an isolated incident of poor judgement.
It is representative of Hillary.
It is her autograph.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
11. How many times are you going to post this? One guy's opinion, not shared by
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

other economists, UN advisors or climate activists. He's a Bernie shill, not someone making a rational, informed criticism, just propping up his candidate by blatantly lying about the one he hates.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
17. How many innocents have died because of her hawkish foreign policy?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

This should be posted for every single one of them.

Response to polly7 (Reply #17)

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
38. Is he lying? Prove it. I notice Hillary supporters have a habit
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:41 PM
Apr 2016

Of making charged statements without providing proof.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. Here's a reminder of what she said in 2002 about the need to send American troops
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

into the dangers of war.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members"


"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."


None of this was true. Democrats were relying on her to help keep the war monsters in check and she betray us. This war, besides killing a million, displacing 5 million and leave Iraq in ruins, made billions for the Ruling Class that has shown their gratitude to those that were responsible.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
23. Imagine a media that would inform the American people of Clinton's past words and actions. The
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

nomination fight would have been over long ago and Bernie could be preparing for the general election. One can only imagine what she would do if she were sitting in the Oval Office.

moondust

(21,306 posts)
53. Bill Clinton should have known better.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:03 AM
Apr 2016

He was getting top-level briefings as late as January 2001 that long before that should have told him Saddam's WMD programs were abandoned by the mid 1990s.

Some in Congress may have trusted Hillary's judgment when deciding how to vote themselves, assuming she had discussed it with her ex-President husband and their buddy Tony Blair, both of whom should have independently known something pretty close to the truth.

I'd like to see somebody publicly confront Bill Clinton on this, ask him why he didn't know better in 2002 and advise his wife accordingly.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
55. "I'd like to see somebody publicly confront Bill Clinton on this, ask him why he didn't know better
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

in 2002 and advise his wife accordingly." What makes you think he didn't? Anyone that believes that she was fooled by the crappy "intelligence" is a fool. She knew what was happening. She knew the consequences that only hurt the Middle and working classes.

Many got richer from the Iraq war. One might say that she got richer from the Iraq war. Blood money.

moondust

(21,306 posts)
56. They may have all known.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:07 AM
Apr 2016

Tony Blair, too.

I'd like to see somebody confront Bill Clinton and Tony Blair about it--accusatorily or otherwise.

2cannan

(344 posts)
65. I've always thought this too and why I believe she has absolutely no excuse for her vote. nt
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
14. People I talk to who do not support Hillary...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 01:47 PM
Apr 2016

...do not hate her.

They are afraid of her.

Because I talk to a lot of people who have sons and daughters in the military.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
26. She just continues to do this crap. Pretending to be the solution when she's been the obfuscation.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:25 PM
Apr 2016

MariaThinks

(2,495 posts)
30. i don't believe any of this nonsense. hillary may not be the best candidate, but this venom is
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 02:44 PM
Apr 2016

suspicious and only makes me want to support her more.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
32. when the only response to the truth is to call it a 'smear'...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

then one must truly value a lie...

and as is shown many times, it is apparently easier to lie than to tell the truth...

Hillary has to contend with facts that she would rather represent in different light...but sometimes that light shines too brightly and the truth is exposed...

misrepresenting vote counts, margins, etc., altering positions per crowd makeup, claiming 'attacks' by opponents, etc. are all merely political folderol...

regime change, industrial favors, empirical ambitions...these traits have real life consequences for millions of people and the ramifications of her decision-making and goal-motivation cannot be ignored nor trivialized...and definitely not dismissed...

the status quo needs to be re-tooled, and more of the same is not the answer...unless you are in the 10%...in which case she's your candidate...

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
36. Well, just being "totally unfit" doesn't mean she can't win.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:24 PM
Apr 2016

See George Bush for precedent.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
46. An economist and environment advisor..judging about world peace and US military policy????nt
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:10 PM
Apr 2016
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