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Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:43 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Jumps Over 30 points In New York Poll

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are locked in a surprisingly competitive battle for New York, with a poll on Thursday showing that the Vermont senator has closed to within 12 points of the former first lady — who only recently led by 48 in her adopted home state.

The Quinnipiac University poll shows Clinton leading 54 to 42 percent heading into the New York primary on April 19, when 291 delegates are at stake.

That’s a dramatic shift from two polls earlier in March

Democratic analyst Douglas Schoen said the closer-than-expected results mirror a national trend.

Sanders, he said, is connecting with the most liberal progressive voters, of whom there are many in New York. Bernie is also riding momentum from a wave of victories in Western states.

http://marshallreport.com/2016/04/01/bernie-jumps-over-30-points-in-new-york-poll/

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Bernie Jumps Over 30 points In New York Poll (Original Post) Pharaoh Apr 2016 OP
The more exposure Bernie receives, the more people support him... the exact OPPOSITE is true for HRC AzDar Apr 2016 #1
Yep, and people are taking notice of this trend. Scuba Apr 2016 #7
So, can we have a debate now? MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #2
Hillary only wants a debate during a championship basketball game. w4rma Apr 2016 #5
The more debates, the more exposure to the Democrat's message. DO YOU WANNA DANCE? TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #25
Her arrow is pointing to the right SisterSarah Apr 2016 #27
Amen. They agreed to two more--one in April and one in May.... Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #35
YEAH BABY... PRIME TIME... CAUSE ... THIS AI'NT OVER YET! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #3
Not the same poll, the 48 point poll was junk geek tragedy Apr 2016 #4
Bernie wins Wisconsin and the press reports the fact... Octafish Apr 2016 #6
Well, I'm certainly getting good vibes from Wisconsinites in my phone banking this week... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #9
You are TOPS, MrMickeysMom! Octafish Apr 2016 #13
God, I hope we have exit polls... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #17
Did you see this from Judi Lynn at LBN? Octafish Apr 2016 #37
Wow... Not until you brought them up here... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #38
Great News. bvar22 Apr 2016 #8
Yet again. Makes me think Bernie never was down 30 points in the first place. reformist2 Apr 2016 #10
Beautiful trend! Prepare for increased backlash from the opposition, though. senz Apr 2016 #11
No wonder she's so on-edge ibegurpard Apr 2016 #12
Laughter Yoga SisterSarah Apr 2016 #29
That's more realistic.. speaktruthtopower Apr 2016 #14
For fuck's sake, you can't compare results from one pollster to another Godhumor Apr 2016 #15
HeHe I know you are Clinton supporter Gwhittey Apr 2016 #18
That's over 3/4 of a year spread between polls. Also meaningless. Godhumor Apr 2016 #19
Ok then send a email to the Article Author. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #21
Very interesting Pharaoh Apr 2016 #16
Neither the GDP forum, Bernie group nor Hillary group show on the homepage. tammywammy Apr 2016 #20
thanks! Pharaoh Apr 2016 #22
KNR amborin Apr 2016 #23
If Sanders can eke out a tie/win in NY tabasco Apr 2016 #24
If Team Hill continues on their meltdown, things will get VERY interesting n/t Hydra Apr 2016 #36
bern enid602 Apr 2016 #26
I'd watch the electronic scanners and touch screens *reeeeeeal* close on this one. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #28
well I hope somebodys Pharaoh Apr 2016 #30
No! I disagree. Just the opposite. Smarmie Doofus Apr 2016 #32
hillary only goes down SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #31
Kick azmom Apr 2016 #33
It's a good trend Bob41213 Apr 2016 #34
The CBS News / You Gov poll issued today has him within 10... mak3cats Apr 2016 #39
 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
1. The more exposure Bernie receives, the more people support him... the exact OPPOSITE is true for HRC
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:45 PM
Apr 2016

Problematic, I'd say ...

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
2. So, can we have a debate now?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:47 PM
Apr 2016

I thought we'd have a debate schedule!

Let's really expose what the candidates are saying and why. Let's go, New York!

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
5. Hillary only wants a debate during a championship basketball game.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

“Unfortunately, the dates and venues [Clinton] has proposed don’t make a whole lot of sense,” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs responded in a statement. “The idea that they want a debate in New York on a night of the NCAA finals – with Syracuse in the tournament, no less – is ludicrous. We have proposed other dates, which they have rejected. We hope we can reach agreement in the near future.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-campaign-says-sanders-rejected-debate-dates

TheBlackAdder

(29,923 posts)
25. The more debates, the more exposure to the Democrat's message. DO YOU WANNA DANCE?
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Apr 2016

.




Just add some rice, coffee and milk!


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Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
35. Amen. They agreed to two more--one in April and one in May....
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:03 AM
Apr 2016

and I'll bet she tries to bail on the May debate too...


CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
3. YEAH BABY... PRIME TIME... CAUSE ... THIS AI'NT OVER YET!
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:49 PM
Apr 2016

Here We Go...

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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Bernie wins Wisconsin and the press reports the fact...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

...who knows? All that (free) publicity might put him over the top in New York.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
9. Well, I'm certainly getting good vibes from Wisconsinites in my phone banking this week...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:54 PM
Apr 2016

I like to take these personal polls. They're very revealing with the states I've talked to and the result of the races (if people are allowed to vote, that is).

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. You are TOPS, MrMickeysMom!
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:04 PM
Apr 2016

Do you invite the people you talk with to tell their family and friends about Bernie Sanders?

I'm getting a vibe the Urosevich brothers are about her only hope.

That stuff that happened out west over the last few weeks is no fluke. When enough people find out, it's like a cascade of dominoes.

For me, I bring up his integrity and people listen. They have tired of candidates who say one thing and eh elected officials who do another.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
17. God, I hope we have exit polls...
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:08 PM
Apr 2016

In PA, it's iVotronics for me (Allegheny county, as you know)... Yep, that's her only hope.

Yes, in fact, I do invite those I talk to, including getting neighbors to vote. Too bad I can't seem to get members of my own family to switch from "Independent" in NYS elections. My brother will have to opt out because he thinks he's "independent"... In a pigs eye... but, that's another story.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
37. Did you see this from Judi Lynn at LBN?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:09 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:23 PM - Edit history (1)

A Hacker Said He Rigged the 2012 Mexican Election, and It May Still Be Happening Today

By Oscar Balderas and Nathaniel Janowitz
Vice News, April 1, 2016 | 2:15 pm

An imprisoned Colombian hacker, Andrés Sepúlveda, claims he fraudulently helped Enrique Peña Nieto win Mexico's 2012 presidential election, as well as manipulate elections in eight additional countries across Latin America.

Sepúlveda's interview with Bloomberg Businessweek caused a stir throughout Latin America, as well as the United States, particularly for the alleged involvement of Juan Jose Rendón, a Miami-based political consultant who, Bloomberg wrote, has been called the Karl Rove of Latin America for his dark influence on right-wing politics.

And according to the campaign manager for the candidate whom Peña Nieto beat, cybercrimes of the sort Sepúlveda alleged are still happening in Mexican politics.

The hacker claimed that Rendón hired him repeatedly to commit a wide variety of crimes to affect the outcomes of elections, including installing malware, hacking websites, creating fake profiles, and digitally spying on opposition candidates.

Read more: https://news.vice.com/article/hacker-mexico-latin-america-rendon-sepulveda-bloomberg-elections

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
38. Wow... Not until you brought them up here...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

Same old formula... We manipulate and corrupt others so that they can come back and fortify our misdeeds at home.

Thanks to Judi Lynn and you, as always... Meanwhile, I'm at a loss for what to do when my iVotronics vote occurs or doesn't.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
8. Great News.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

What so many said was impossible is now coming to pass.
It was only 3 months ago Hillary supporters were bragging that Bernie would only win 1 state....maybe.

Lots of crow being served up today.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
15. For fuck's sake, you can't compare results from one pollster to another
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:14 PM
Apr 2016

They all follow different methodologies and population parameters.

It just doesn't work that way. At all.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
18. HeHe I know you are Clinton supporter
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 06:41 PM
Apr 2016

but come on Quinnipiac = Quinnipiac stop trying to be silly we don't buy into your silly Clinton games.

Quinnipiac 5/28 - 6/1 508 RV 4.4 55 15 Clinton +40
Quinnipiac 3/22 - 3/29 693 LV 3.7 54 42 Clinton +12

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democratic_presidential_primary-4221.html

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
19. That's over 3/4 of a year spread between polls. Also meaningless.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

The article is trying to make believe that Bernie has suddenly and radically closed the gap in the last 3 weeks by mixing poll results. That is nonsensical.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
16. Very interesting
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 05:17 PM
Apr 2016

that this post hasn't moved into the trending section yet.

Bias in management?

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
22. thanks!
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

I had no idea! Makes sense though, the Hill people would not be able to handle it!

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
28. I'd watch the electronic scanners and touch screens *reeeeeeal* close on this one.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

The NYS DEM machine wants this one reeeeal bad.

They do NOT want to lose it.

The Bernie campaign needs lawyers and observers all over the friggin place but esp in NYC area and Buffalo ( Erie County.)

You know... pretty much the only areas in the state that voted for Cuomo over Teachout in last year's primary.

See what I'm sayin' ?

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
30. well I hope somebodys
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:24 PM
Apr 2016

fucking on it!

But the Bernie movement has a lot of savvy young kids in it.

Being sixty, I am really hoping the youngsters are stepping up to the plate on this one.

Things will look fairly bleak otherwise.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
32. No! I disagree. Just the opposite.
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 09:33 PM
Apr 2016

The kids are *fantastic*.... but I'm not sure they have the life experience to recognize how evil people can be, what they can do, and what they can rationalize.

The default position is to give people the benefit of the doubt. Who wants to go around thinking most people are untrustworthy , dishonest and potentially COMPLETELY corruptible?

I sure didn't when I was young.

Now... well.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
34. It's a good trend
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:23 AM
Apr 2016

But I don't believe it till I see the results. Michigan was a good surprise but there were many more disappointments. New York would obviously be HUGE.

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