"Only Hillary can stop Bernie Sanders from being US President, says Michael Moore"

[Attorney in Texas]

link; excerpt:

"If everybody shows up to vote, Bernie Sanders will be the next President of the United States," predicts Michael Moore, the provocative filmmaker whose Fahrenheit 9/11 remains the highest-grossing documentary of all time.

"But first," he adds, "he has to get through the hurdles of the Democratic Party, which does not want him as their nominee."

Moore ... pays far more attention to the politics of the US than most, and is convinced the only way Donald Trump could become the next president – assuming the Republican establishment doesn't find some way to block his seemingly inevitable nomination – is if he squares off against Hillary Clinton rather than Sanders....

"Keep this statistic in mind: 81 per cent of this country is either women, people of colour or young adults under the age of 35. That's who's voting this year, and Mr Trump has done marvellously offending all three of those groups of people. The chance of him winning is only possible if people stay home on election day."

[metroins]

1. Hillary leads

On popular and delegates.

She has a better campaign.

[daleanime]

3. Tell me again.....

about her unfavorables.

[metroins]

6. I only care about votes

And she's overwhelmingly being voted for.

[daleanime]

8. When and where allowed by law....

and of course they must be the right votes. Don't want unapproved people weighting in. But you have a lovely evening anyways.

[Autumn]

9. Most people vote for politicians they view in a favorable light, or not vote

if they don't have a favorable opinion of that politician.

[Herman4747]

10. She had a tremendous lead in both money & fame...

...at the start, when Bernie was at about 4% in the polls. She has lost nearly all her lead over Bernie, and her unfavorable rating has increased to 55%. (Lying so frequently will do this).

So I wouldn't say "a better campaign."

[metroins]

13. It's a winning campaign

Aka better.

[longship]

29. Winning by lying is nothing to brag about.

Explains David Brock...

[Angrydemex]

31. nope

She doesnt

[metroins]

34. It is a fact that she is leading.

[Angrydemex]

35. nope!

[metroins]

38. She literally is

There is no nope about it.

[Avalon Sparks]

36. So is Trump, leading

Does that make him "better" for the Repugs?

[metroins]

37. DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND.COM

I'll focus on Democrats.

[Avalon Sparks]

41. Deflection doesn't further your "point"

From my understand it seems you're claiming that because a candidate has more votes at this point in the primary, that makes them the 'better' candidate.

It seems that point holds no validity across the spectrum.

But nice try.

[metroins]

42. My point is

HRC needs to win 3/10 of every race and BS needs to win 7/10 of every race.

I find it absolutely disbursing that BS keeps feeding the line he can win when his campaign was over a month ago.

I feel that it's fraud for BS to continue to try to raise money by telling people he can win.

[Avalon Sparks]

43. Well if you feel that way don't send him any money

I've analyzed the numbers myself, there's a chance neither will have the min number of delegates to clinch the deal.

The convention is over three months away, a lot can happen between now and then.

The other states should absolutely have their say.

Futhermore Bernie isn't telling his supporters he can win. He's telling us WE can win if we get the vote out. Considering how far we've come in the last 3 months, it seems the message is being heard rather clearly.

[ibegurpard]

40. among Democrats

Who make up less than 30% of the voting population. And she's not capturing all of that 30%...so tell me Mr Math...where does she get the rest of the votes to get to 50% plus 1 of the entire US voting population.

[daleanime]

2. True....

the only path to the presidency for either Hillary or Drumpf is through the other.

[Metric System]

4. Naderite says what?

[Gwhittey]

5. Bah What does Micheal Moore know

He was against the Iraq War that Clinton Voted on. Even even made speech about it during Oscars.

[Metric System]

7. Actually, the pledged delegate count is stopping Bernie from getting anywhere near the Presidency.

[redstateblues]

11. Thank heaven someone is stopping Bernie from being President

He would be a disaster for down ballot Dems and he would be a disaster as President. He has been a do nothing back bencher in Congress for a quarter century. He would be one and done as POTUS when his pie in the sky promises became DOA.

[Metric System]

12. Exactly. It's telling that none of his Senate colleagues have endorsed him. Compare this with 2008

and the endorsements then Sen. Obama racked up from his Senate colleagues.

[Land Shark]

18. Given the state of washington, and Hillary as opponent, I neither want nor expect Senate endorsement

I would expect the incumbents to go for the more senior Dem politician, but that doesn't mean that Sanders isn't the superior candidate in terms of his positions, which is mostly all I or most people care about. Sanders could be JFK or the greatest potential president to ever live and I would still expect Senate official endorsements to be exactly as they are. It's not really a slam on Sanders it is recognition of Clinton's insider status / more work for the party itself.

The same does not apply any longer to Cruz. There is no current or former Senator in the race to compete with CRUZ for endorsements. So of course he is getting a couple from people who absolutely denounced him before.

[redstateblues]

21. Bernie has been in Congress for 1/4 century and has no allies in the Senate?

Something odd about that

[Land Shark]

23. I like it. I like it a lot.

If you're going to be on the right side of history, you will oftentimes be largely alone. But history vindicates. (That said, he does have allies few wish to risk the wrath of a queen and I understand that)

[Eric J in MN]

27. It's almost as if he's more liberal than all the other Senators. NT

NT

[sibelian]

28. They aren't the lovely people you always wanted to think they were?

? perhaps ?

[politicaljunkie41910]

17. Agreed. And Bernie now says he doesn't expect to get his agenda through in a first term.

As if he would get a second term to do nothing as well. The only reason he is doing as well as he is, is his promises of free stuff that he now claims that he never expected to get those things through in his first term. How disengenuous can he be.

[Avalon Sparks]

39. The down ballot Dems meme....

Yes because the DLC has been so successful the last 8 years at helping the down Dems. Helping them lose seats running on the Repub lite platform.

[sadoldgirl]

14. Wait a minute here. Did I fall asleep

or went into hibernation?

Are you telling me that CA and OR voted
already?

Oh my, and I did not put my plants out at
the right time, in that case.
Funny though we are expecting snow again.

[AzDar]

15. K & R

[Land Shark]

16. Quite true. Only Hillary can stop Sanders, Dem primary is the presidency this year

[RufusTFirefly]

19. I think the PTB hoped Trump's neofascism would actually make corporatism seem appealing

With an electorate used to voting "against" instead of "for," "Anyone but Trump" looked like a winner. Trump may have originally been designed to make Jeb! seem more palatable. That obviously was a miserable failure.

Now he's seen as achieving the impossible: actually making Hillary seem more likable and reasonable in comparison. But there's only so much that one man can do. As it turns out, America is torn as to which candidate it dislikes more. Besides, for all his truly appalling viewpoints, Trump, unlike his anointed rival, is seen as "telling it like it is."

Meanwhile, Bernie is going to ruin everything. He's refreshingly authentic, trustworthy, and popular. And unlike the bigoted blowhard Berlusconi from Queens, Brooklyn Bernie is a genuine progressive, who appeals to the better angels of our nature.

If he makes it to the GE, people will vote for Sanders in unprecedented numbers: some out of fear of the alternative, but many more filled with hope and inspiration for a more equitable America.

No wonder the corporatists are terrified.

[redstateblues]

22. I thought Bernie was supposed to drive turnout to historic levels in the primaries

What was the turnout in the recent caucuses 5%? Your quote "If he makes it to the GE, people will vote for Sanders in unprecedented numbers" Not so much in the primaries? Kind of lets the air out of your "unprecedented" meme. The prospect of having a Socialist in the White House would definitely fire up the Republicans.

[Attorney in Texas]

25. Are you misinformed or deliberately misleading? New Hampshire was a primary, Oklahoma was a primary,

Michigan was a primary, Vermont was a primary, Illinois was a primary, and Democrats Abroad was a primary.

Oklahoma's Democratic primary set a new turnout record and Sanders won.

Michigan's Democratic primary set a new turnout record and Sanders won.

Illinois' Democratic primary set a new turnout record and Sanders tied Hillary 78 pledged delegates to 78 pledged delegates in Hillary's home state.

[Beowulf]

26. Also, Bernie is strongest with Independents,

the largest block of voters and often prohibited from participating in primaries and caucuses. Hillary has built her lead on a small subset of the electorate.

[Segami]

20. Kick

[Vote2016]

24. kick & rec #25

[BainsBane]

30. The American voters decide both the nomination and the presidency

What those who assume Bernie is owed lament in Hillary Clinton daring to run for the nomination is that she has earned 2.5 million more votes than Bernie. The entire language of the presidency being "denied" Bernie assumes he is owed it. He nor anyone else is owed political office. They have to EARN a majority of votes, something Sanders has not been able to do. So sure, if Bernie faced no opposition, Clinton wouldn't be an obstacle to his ascension to the Oval Office. But then that doesn't speak well of his popular appeal, does it?

The fact is, Sanders does best in states with low turnout--caucus systems--rather than in primary states where far more voters participate. His campaign is well aware of this, which is why Tad Devine announced back in January a strategy targeting caucus states with low voter turnout:

The idea is to take advantage of the caucus format, which tends to reward campaigns with the most dedicated partisans. The caucuses play to Sanders’ strength in another important way – they are largely held in states that are heavily white, which helps Sanders neutralize Clinton’s edge with minority voters.
With a dozen such contests coming before the end of March – and Clinton expected to perform well on March 1, the first big multi-state primary day -- the caucuses are emerging as an integral part of Sanders’ long-shot plan.
“Caucuses are very good for Bernie Sanders,” explained chief Sanders strategist Tad Devine, likening the 2016 strategy to the one he deployed as Mike Dukakis’ field director in 1988. “Caucuses tend to be in the much-lower turnout universe, and having people who intensely support you in events like that makes a huge difference. You saw that with President Obama in 2008, and you’re going to see it with Bernie Sanders.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-iowa-obama-playbook-218137#ixzz44kuBzzz7
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The campaign has reaped the results of that strategy, sweeping caucus states but earning a far lower percentage of the vote in primaries states with much higher voters participation rates. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[kgnu_fan]

32. Go Bernie!

[PonyUp]

33. Hillary is her own worst enemy.