Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:54 AM
floriduck (2,262 posts)
Will Hillary drop out before her indictment or
wait until the DOJ and FBI nail her to respectfully withdraw her candidacy? I'm fine with either but my preference is that she bail out sooner than later to allow Bernie to start focusing on Trump.
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floriduck | Apr 2016 | OP |
MFM008 | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
Karma13612 | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
elana i am | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
reformist2 | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
Lizzie Poppet | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #27 | |
FarPoint | Apr 2016 | #31 | |
Lizzie Poppet | Apr 2016 | #41 | |
MisterP | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
dana_b | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
HereSince1628 | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
JSup | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
Gwhittey | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Gothmog | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
reformist2 | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
PonyUp | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
Gwhittey | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
PonyUp | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
bigwillq | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
oasis | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
Vinca | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
winter is coming | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
Kentonio | Apr 2016 | #42 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | Apr 2016 | #43 | |
Holly_Hobby | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
JoePhilly | Apr 2016 | #22 | |
grossproffit | Apr 2016 | #37 | |
think | Apr 2016 | #23 | |
geek tragedy | Apr 2016 | #24 | |
bigtree | Apr 2016 | #25 | |
rbrnmw | Apr 2016 | #26 | |
redstateblues | Apr 2016 | #28 | |
Attorney in Texas | Apr 2016 | #29 | |
redstateblues | Apr 2016 | #33 | |
angrychair | Apr 2016 | #38 | |
brooklynite | Apr 2016 | #30 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | Apr 2016 | #34 | |
rbrnmw | Apr 2016 | #39 | |
Nyan | Apr 2016 | #32 | |
reddread | Apr 2016 | #35 | |
KingFlorez | Apr 2016 | #36 | |
Waiting For Everyman | Apr 2016 | #40 |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:59 AM
MFM008 (19,727 posts)
1. There will be no indictment
now or ever.
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Response to MFM008 (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:46 AM
Karma13612 (4,445 posts)
18. You mean no like
No single-payer, never ever?
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:03 AM
elana i am (814 posts)
2. loath as i am to say it
she won't be indicted. i can't imagine anyone on earth right now more immune from prosecution than her. (because reasons that will get me banned from this place.)
i feel my time here is drawing to a close again... |
Response to elana i am (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:20 AM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
7. I agree. But someone in her inner circle may well be indicted for obstruction of justice.
Response to elana i am (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:36 AM
Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)
15. Yep: Princess Weathervane = more Teflon than Reagan.
The country's getting railroaded into a dreadful, sure-to-be-impeached president.
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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #15)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:30 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
27. Or maybe all the rightwing crap about her violating a criminal statute
isn't true?
Nah, too much to ask for you to disbelieve Fox News in this. Hopefully the Bernie people will remember that Republicans and their propaganda outlets are not their friends by June 7. |
Response to geek tragedy (Reply #27)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:38 PM
FarPoint (11,899 posts)
31. What????
You bring in facts, details? Hahahaha these guys are so obvious it's funny.
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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #27)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:18 PM
Lizzie Poppet (10,164 posts)
41. Riiiiight. When Princess Weathervane is criticized, it MUST be Fox News propaganda!
Cult behavior: it's not pretty.
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Response to elana i am (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:52 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
21. at least there's always JackPine Radicals
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:08 AM
dana_b (11,546 posts)
3. do you really think that she will be indicted??
I don't. She's too connected and she's obviously the candidate of choice for the Dem establishment and even the President.
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Response to dana_b (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:23 AM
HereSince1628 (36,063 posts)
9. The interference with the election would be terrible, I don't see a DOJ indictment happening
Which isn't to say that the FBI report won't recommend charges be brought. I think that outcome would be more possible -if- they find evidence of criminal wrong-doing. We don't know that they have or will find that.
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Response to JSup (Reply #4)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:31 AM
Gwhittey (1,377 posts)
13. OH yea well
I eat breakfast while I was robbing the bank.Oh snap I just owned you!!!
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:13 AM
Gothmog (136,451 posts)
5. The conservative RWNJ are convinced that Clinton-the rest of the world are not
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:19 AM
reformist2 (9,841 posts)
6. Hillary won't be indicted, but someone in her circle is headed for an obstruction of justice charge.
There's no getting around the fact that her servers were erased, which for a public official is clearly illegal. |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:22 AM
PonyUp (1,680 posts)
8. I don't care if she's indicted or not. I just want all the clintons to fade away. nt
Response to PonyUp (Reply #8)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:32 AM
Gwhittey (1,377 posts)
14. Not all of the Clintons
![]() Can we keep this one? |
Response to Gwhittey (Reply #14)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:39 AM
PonyUp (1,680 posts)
16. We'll keep that one. "One nation under a Bernie..."
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:23 AM
bigwillq (72,790 posts)
10. I don't think Mrs. Clinton will be indicted
If she is, she needs to withdraw ASAP.
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:24 AM
oasis (48,901 posts)
11. Hillary can't fight for us if she drops out.
So, no.
Btw. No indictment. |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:26 AM
Vinca (49,759 posts)
12. Whether she is or isn't, the result isn't going to be good.
If she is, I expect she'll stay in the race until the bitter end. If she isn't, the GOP talking point will be that the Obama administration is part of a cover-up scheme to protect her and that's why a Republican should be elected. It's a real shame the field was cleared so Hillary could run.
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:42 AM
winter is coming (11,785 posts)
17. I doubt either HRC or Bernie would quit until it's mathematically impossible to win.
And even if it goes right up 'til the convention, the nominee will still have months to campaign against Trump.
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:06 AM
DemocratSinceBirth (99,152 posts)
19. I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy ...
I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy will arrest Hillary Clinton.
#lol@me |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #19)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:47 PM
Kentonio (4,377 posts)
42. "#lol@me" Don't worry, we do.
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Response to Kentonio (Reply #42)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:49 PM
DemocratSinceBirth (99,152 posts)
43. A fan
If I were you I would live vicariously through me too.
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:25 AM
Holly_Hobby (3,033 posts)
20. Comey may recommend indictment
because he's still outraged over Marc Rich's Presidential pardon on Bill's last day in office. Comey was a prosecutor in that case. But I doubt the DOJ will indict. Too big to fail.
BTW, did you know that Marc Rich's wife Denise gave Bill & Hill furniture for their home in Chappaqua home? I guess all of their furniture was donated...must be nice! ... The fact that Marc Rich cheated on her after they fled to Switzerland 17 years ago, that he participated in the biggest tax fraud in U.S. history, that he traded with Iran during the hostage crisis and defiantly renounced his U.S. citizenship rather than face a trial here—all that has been washed away with a mother’s tears. As for her notorious list of gifts to the Clintons—$7,000 worth of furniture for their Chappaqua, New York, house; $450,000 for the Clinton Library; more than $100,000 for Hillary’s Senate campaign; more than $1 million for the Democratic National Committee, not to mention many millions more raised at Democratic fund-raisers in her apartment—Rich dismisses all that airily as a piffling amount. About the furniture for Chappaqua (two coffee tables and two chairs), she says, “Everybody gave furniture. There was a list going around from the decorator.” ... http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2001/06/rich200106 |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:15 PM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
22. And then the drugs wore off.
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #22)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:08 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
37. I think some are on an IV.
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:19 PM
think (11,641 posts)
23. I doubt she'll be indicted but she probably wouldn't drop out even if she was. JMO... /nt
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:27 PM
geek tragedy (68,868 posts)
24. keep on clapping for the Indictment Fairy to rescue your failed campaign nt
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:28 PM
bigtree (84,400 posts)
25. I think she'll choose off-white draperies
Response to floriduck (Original post)
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:31 PM
redstateblues (10,564 posts)
28. Bernie's only path to the nomination
Pitiful
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:32 PM
Attorney in Texas (3,373 posts)
29. She's going to wait for the FBI to recommend indictment (at which point she will label Obama's FBI
director to be part of the vast right-wing conspiracy who just does not like Hillary for some unknown reason and who picks on her unfairly when she has never done anything wrong ever).
But then she still won't step aside because the DoJ will not prosecute so Hillary will have this reek of guilt from the FBI's non-partisan recommendation without the chance of a public exoneration or public conviction and, in addition to the reek of guilt, she will also have the stench of privilege for those who will believe she escaped justice due to a political partisanship at Obama's DoJ. If we want to avoid this insurmountable obstacle to a Democratic presidency in 2016, WE NEED TO NOMINATE SANDERS - THAT IS THE ONLY WAY. {NOTE: I personally believe Hillary violated the FIOA and should lose the civil suits and pay the appropriately stiff fines for that deliberate violation of federal law created to make government more transparent and accountable to us all, but I do not believe she is guilty of the criminal offenses and should not be indicted, but Sid Blumenthal is guilty as shown by emails Hillary received and he should be indicted and Hillary will likely wind up as a material witness in that criminal trial}. |
Response to Attorney in Texas (Reply #29)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:42 PM
redstateblues (10,564 posts)
33. Sander's Supporters' fantasy-at least you are admitting Bernie can't win
with delegates or popular vote. That's progress
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Response to redstateblues (Reply #33)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:15 PM
angrychair (7,884 posts)
38. What is amusing
The idea that being nominated means you are the best choice and can actually win the general election is absurd. Both parties have nominated poor candidates so I would be hesitant to hang my hat on that concept.
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:34 PM
brooklynite (89,793 posts)
30. I think a lot of people will be anguished when it doesn't happen...
...just like their FRiends...
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #30)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:45 PM
DemocratSinceBirth (99,152 posts)
34. How about their FRiends who dwell in Caves?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #34)
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Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:41 PM
Nyan (1,192 posts)
32. I don't think indictment will happen but the continuing chatter about FBI investigation
is gonna make things particularly difficult for the next 2 weeks after Wisconsin.
Bernie's likely to win Wisconsin. New York press is gonna be harsh on her. He'll continue to attract massive crowds in New York and MSM can't hide her small number of crowds anymore. And FBI's very likely to contact her in the next 2 weeks, while all of that is happening. |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:45 PM
reddread (6,896 posts)
35. there will be a watergate moment where loss is truly inevitable
and instead of imploding, they will do whatever they can to retain influence.
having seen their effort to date, im expecting new lows. |
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:48 PM
KingFlorez (12,689 posts)
36. It's sad when your candidate's only chance at winning is for his opponent to be indicted
Response to floriduck (Original post)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
Waiting For Everyman (9,385 posts)
40. Nixon and his VP Agnew thought they were safe too.
And that's how Speaker of the House Gerald Ford ended up being President, after both of them were forced out of office. It wasn't that long ago, either. Watergate, 1974.
As more people who haven't voted yet become aware of her situation, I predict she will collect fewer and fewer delegates, and more supers will switch sides. If she manages to be nominated, she'll be Republican roadkill immediately. |