2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWill Hillary drop out before her indictment or
wait until the DOJ and FBI nail her to respectfully withdraw her candidacy? I'm fine with either but my preference is that she bail out sooner than later to allow Bernie to start focusing on Trump.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)now or ever.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)No single-payer, never ever?
elana i am
(814 posts)she won't be indicted. i can't imagine anyone on earth right now more immune from prosecution than her. (because reasons that will get me banned from this place.)
i feel my time here is drawing to a close again...
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)The country's getting railroaded into a dreadful, sure-to-be-impeached president.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)isn't true?
Nah, too much to ask for you to disbelieve Fox News in this.
Hopefully the Bernie people will remember that Republicans and their propaganda outlets are not their friends by June 7.
FarPoint
(12,335 posts)You bring in facts, details? Hahahaha these guys are so obvious it's funny.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Cult behavior: it's not pretty.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)I don't. She's too connected and she's obviously the candidate of choice for the Dem establishment and even the President.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Which isn't to say that the FBI report won't recommend charges be brought. I think that outcome would be more possible -if- they find evidence of criminal wrong-doing. We don't know that they have or will find that.
JSup
(740 posts)I eat breakfast while I was robbing the bank.Oh snap I just owned you!!!
Gothmog
(145,124 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)There's no getting around the fact that her servers were erased, which for a public official is clearly illegal.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)Can we keep this one?
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)If she is, she needs to withdraw ASAP.
oasis
(49,376 posts)So, no.
Btw. No indictment.
Vinca
(50,261 posts)If she is, I expect she'll stay in the race until the bitter end. If she isn't, the GOP talking point will be that the Obama administration is part of a cover-up scheme to protect her and that's why a Republican should be elected. It's a real shame the field was cleared so Hillary could run.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)And even if it goes right up 'til the convention, the nominee will still have months to campaign against Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy will arrest Hillary Clinton.
#lol@me
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If I were you I would live vicariously through me too.
Holly_Hobby
(3,033 posts)because he's still outraged over Marc Rich's Presidential pardon on Bill's last day in office. Comey was a prosecutor in that case. But I doubt the DOJ will indict. Too big to fail.
BTW, did you know that Marc Rich's wife Denise gave Bill & Hill furniture for their home in Chappaqua home? I guess all of their furniture was donated...must be nice!
...
The fact that Marc Rich cheated on her after they fled to Switzerland 17 years ago, that he participated in the biggest tax fraud in U.S. history, that he traded with Iran during the hostage crisis and defiantly renounced his U.S. citizenship rather than face a trial hereall that has been washed away with a mothers tears. As for her notorious list of gifts to the Clintons$7,000 worth of furniture for their Chappaqua, New York, house; $450,000 for the Clinton Library; more than $100,000 for Hillarys Senate campaign; more than $1 million for the Democratic National Committee, not to mention many millions more raised at Democratic fund-raisers in her apartmentRich dismisses all that airily as a piffling amount. About the furniture for Chappaqua (two coffee tables and two chairs), she says, Everybody gave furniture. There was a list going around from the decorator.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2001/06/rich200106
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)think
(11,641 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts)Response to floriduck (Original post)
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redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Pitiful
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)director to be part of the vast right-wing conspiracy who just does not like Hillary for some unknown reason and who picks on her unfairly when she has never done anything wrong ever).
But then she still won't step aside because the DoJ will not prosecute so Hillary will have this reek of guilt from the FBI's non-partisan recommendation without the chance of a public exoneration or public conviction and, in addition to the reek of guilt, she will also have the stench of privilege for those who will believe she escaped justice due to a political partisanship at Obama's DoJ.
If we want to avoid this insurmountable obstacle to a Democratic presidency in 2016, WE NEED TO NOMINATE SANDERS - THAT IS THE ONLY WAY.
{NOTE: I personally believe Hillary violated the FIOA and should lose the civil suits and pay the appropriately stiff fines for that deliberate violation of federal law created to make government more transparent and accountable to us all, but I do not believe she is guilty of the criminal offenses and should not be indicted, but Sid Blumenthal is guilty as shown by emails Hillary received and he should be indicted and Hillary will likely wind up as a material witness in that criminal trial}.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)with delegates or popular vote. That's progress
angrychair
(8,692 posts)The idea that being nominated means you are the best choice and can actually win the general election is absurd. Both parties have nominated poor candidates so I would be hesitant to hang my hat on that concept.
brooklynite
(94,499 posts)...just like their FRiends...
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #34)
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Nyan
(1,192 posts)is gonna make things particularly difficult for the next 2 weeks after Wisconsin.
Bernie's likely to win Wisconsin. New York press is gonna be harsh on her. He'll continue to attract massive crowds in New York and MSM can't hide her small number of crowds anymore. And FBI's very likely to contact her in the next 2 weeks, while all of that is happening.
reddread
(6,896 posts)and instead of imploding, they will do whatever they can to retain influence.
having seen their effort to date, im expecting new lows.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And that's how Speaker of the House Gerald Ford ended up being President, after both of them were forced out of office. It wasn't that long ago, either. Watergate, 1974.
As more people who haven't voted yet become aware of her situation, I predict she will collect fewer and fewer delegates, and more supers will switch sides.
If she manages to be nominated, she'll be Republican roadkill immediately.