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floriduck

(2,262 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:54 AM Apr 2016

Will Hillary drop out before her indictment or

wait until the DOJ and FBI nail her to respectfully withdraw her candidacy? I'm fine with either but my preference is that she bail out sooner than later to allow Bernie to start focusing on Trump.

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Will Hillary drop out before her indictment or (Original Post) floriduck Apr 2016 OP
There will be no indictment MFM008 Apr 2016 #1
You mean no like Karma13612 Apr 2016 #18
loath as i am to say it elana i am Apr 2016 #2
I agree. But someone in her inner circle may well be indicted for obstruction of justice. reformist2 Apr 2016 #7
Yep: Princess Weathervane = more Teflon than Reagan. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #15
Or maybe all the rightwing crap about her violating a criminal statute geek tragedy Apr 2016 #27
What???? FarPoint Apr 2016 #31
Riiiiight. When Princess Weathervane is criticized, it MUST be Fox News propaganda! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #41
at least there's always JackPine Radicals MisterP Apr 2016 #21
do you really think that she will be indicted?? dana_b Apr 2016 #3
The interference with the election would be terrible, I don't see a DOJ indictment happening HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #9
Enough with the JSup Apr 2016 #4
OH yea well Gwhittey Apr 2016 #13
The conservative RWNJ are convinced that Clinton-the rest of the world are not Gothmog Apr 2016 #5
Hillary won't be indicted, but someone in her circle is headed for an obstruction of justice charge. reformist2 Apr 2016 #6
I don't care if she's indicted or not. I just want all the clintons to fade away. nt PonyUp Apr 2016 #8
Not all of the Clintons Gwhittey Apr 2016 #14
We'll keep that one. "One nation under a Bernie..." PonyUp Apr 2016 #16
I don't think Mrs. Clinton will be indicted bigwillq Apr 2016 #10
Hillary can't fight for us if she drops out. oasis Apr 2016 #11
Whether she is or isn't, the result isn't going to be good. Vinca Apr 2016 #12
I doubt either HRC or Bernie would quit until it's mathematically impossible to win. winter is coming Apr 2016 #17
I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy ... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #19
"#lol@me" Don't worry, we do. Kentonio Apr 2016 #42
A fan DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #43
Comey may recommend indictment Holly_Hobby Apr 2016 #20
And then the drugs wore off. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #22
I think some are on an IV. grossproffit Apr 2016 #37
I doubt she'll be indicted but she probably wouldn't drop out even if she was. JMO... /nt think Apr 2016 #23
keep on clapping for the Indictment Fairy to rescue your failed campaign nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #24
I think she'll choose off-white draperies bigtree Apr 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Apr 2016 #26
Bernie's only path to the nomination redstateblues Apr 2016 #28
She's going to wait for the FBI to recommend indictment (at which point she will label Obama's FBI Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #29
Sander's Supporters' fantasy-at least you are admitting Bernie can't win redstateblues Apr 2016 #33
What is amusing angrychair Apr 2016 #38
I think a lot of people will be anguished when it doesn't happen... brooklynite Apr 2016 #30
How about their FRiends who dwell in Caves? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Apr 2016 #39
I don't think indictment will happen but the continuing chatter about FBI investigation Nyan Apr 2016 #32
there will be a watergate moment where loss is truly inevitable reddread Apr 2016 #35
It's sad when your candidate's only chance at winning is for his opponent to be indicted KingFlorez Apr 2016 #36
Nixon and his VP Agnew thought they were safe too. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #40

elana i am

(814 posts)
2. loath as i am to say it
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:03 AM
Apr 2016

she won't be indicted. i can't imagine anyone on earth right now more immune from prosecution than her. (because reasons that will get me banned from this place.)

i feel my time here is drawing to a close again...

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
15. Yep: Princess Weathervane = more Teflon than Reagan.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:36 AM
Apr 2016

The country's getting railroaded into a dreadful, sure-to-be-impeached president.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. Or maybe all the rightwing crap about her violating a criminal statute
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:30 PM
Apr 2016

isn't true?

Nah, too much to ask for you to disbelieve Fox News in this.

Hopefully the Bernie people will remember that Republicans and their propaganda outlets are not their friends by June 7.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
41. Riiiiight. When Princess Weathervane is criticized, it MUST be Fox News propaganda!
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:18 PM
Apr 2016

Cult behavior: it's not pretty.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
3. do you really think that she will be indicted??
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 03:08 AM
Apr 2016

I don't. She's too connected and she's obviously the candidate of choice for the Dem establishment and even the President.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. The interference with the election would be terrible, I don't see a DOJ indictment happening
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:23 AM
Apr 2016

Which isn't to say that the FBI report won't recommend charges be brought. I think that outcome would be more possible -if- they find evidence of criminal wrong-doing. We don't know that they have or will find that.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
6. Hillary won't be indicted, but someone in her circle is headed for an obstruction of justice charge.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:19 AM
Apr 2016

There's no getting around the fact that her servers were erased, which for a public official is clearly illegal.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
12. Whether she is or isn't, the result isn't going to be good.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:26 AM
Apr 2016

If she is, I expect she'll stay in the race until the bitter end. If she isn't, the GOP talking point will be that the Obama administration is part of a cover-up scheme to protect her and that's why a Republican should be elected. It's a real shame the field was cleared so Hillary could run.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. I doubt either HRC or Bernie would quit until it's mathematically impossible to win.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:42 AM
Apr 2016

And even if it goes right up 'til the convention, the nominee will still have months to campaign against Trump.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy ...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

I read that if you write out an indictment and put it under your pillow the Indictment Fairy will arrest Hillary Clinton.





#lol@me

Holly_Hobby

(3,033 posts)
20. Comey may recommend indictment
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

because he's still outraged over Marc Rich's Presidential pardon on Bill's last day in office. Comey was a prosecutor in that case. But I doubt the DOJ will indict. Too big to fail.

BTW, did you know that Marc Rich's wife Denise gave Bill & Hill furniture for their home in Chappaqua home? I guess all of their furniture was donated...must be nice!

...

The fact that Marc Rich cheated on her after they fled to Switzerland 17 years ago, that he participated in the biggest tax fraud in U.S. history, that he traded with Iran during the hostage crisis and defiantly renounced his U.S. citizenship rather than face a trial here—all that has been washed away with a mother’s tears. As for her notorious list of gifts to the Clintons—$7,000 worth of furniture for their Chappaqua, New York, house; $450,000 for the Clinton Library; more than $100,000 for Hillary’s Senate campaign; more than $1 million for the Democratic National Committee, not to mention many millions more raised at Democratic fund-raisers in her apartment—Rich dismisses all that airily as a piffling amount. About the furniture for Chappaqua (two coffee tables and two chairs), she says, “Everybody gave furniture. There was a list going around from the decorator.”

...

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2001/06/rich200106

Response to floriduck (Original post)

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
29. She's going to wait for the FBI to recommend indictment (at which point she will label Obama's FBI
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:32 PM
Apr 2016

director to be part of the vast right-wing conspiracy who just does not like Hillary for some unknown reason and who picks on her unfairly when she has never done anything wrong ever).

But then she still won't step aside because the DoJ will not prosecute so Hillary will have this reek of guilt from the FBI's non-partisan recommendation without the chance of a public exoneration or public conviction and, in addition to the reek of guilt, she will also have the stench of privilege for those who will believe she escaped justice due to a political partisanship at Obama's DoJ.

If we want to avoid this insurmountable obstacle to a Democratic presidency in 2016, WE NEED TO NOMINATE SANDERS - THAT IS THE ONLY WAY.

{NOTE: I personally believe Hillary violated the FIOA and should lose the civil suits and pay the appropriately stiff fines for that deliberate violation of federal law created to make government more transparent and accountable to us all, but I do not believe she is guilty of the criminal offenses and should not be indicted, but Sid Blumenthal is guilty as shown by emails Hillary received and he should be indicted and Hillary will likely wind up as a material witness in that criminal trial}.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
33. Sander's Supporters' fantasy-at least you are admitting Bernie can't win
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:42 PM
Apr 2016

with delegates or popular vote. That's progress

angrychair

(8,692 posts)
38. What is amusing
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:15 PM
Apr 2016

The idea that being nominated means you are the best choice and can actually win the general election is absurd. Both parties have nominated poor candidates so I would be hesitant to hang my hat on that concept.

Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #34)

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
32. I don't think indictment will happen but the continuing chatter about FBI investigation
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

is gonna make things particularly difficult for the next 2 weeks after Wisconsin.

Bernie's likely to win Wisconsin. New York press is gonna be harsh on her. He'll continue to attract massive crowds in New York and MSM can't hide her small number of crowds anymore. And FBI's very likely to contact her in the next 2 weeks, while all of that is happening.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
35. there will be a watergate moment where loss is truly inevitable
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

and instead of imploding, they will do whatever they can to retain influence.
having seen their effort to date, im expecting new lows.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
40. Nixon and his VP Agnew thought they were safe too.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

And that's how Speaker of the House Gerald Ford ended up being President, after both of them were forced out of office. It wasn't that long ago, either. Watergate, 1974.

As more people who haven't voted yet become aware of her situation, I predict she will collect fewer and fewer delegates, and more supers will switch sides.

If she manages to be nominated, she'll be Republican roadkill immediately.

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